Saboteur (Mafia Role)

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Saboteur (Mafia Role)

Postby JAF1970 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:09 pm

Twice a game, he can make a mafia kill resemble another kill, such as Juggernaut, Serial Killer, Potion Master, Coven Leader, Arsonist etc.

It's not overpowered as:

1) Another unique will realize there's a fake, just as two Juggernaut kills on the same night
2) The faction will know it's fake (Coven seeing a Coven attack that didn't exist)
3) Like Forger, Spy will see two roles visiting. If a consort or blackmailer is involved, then three roles
4) There would be no Mafia kill seen that turn

It will resonate with:

1) Forger, obviously
2) Consort - if the Mafia knows, say, someone is a Potion Master, the consort can roleblock the Potion Master and make them attack elsewhere
3) Blackmailer - see above
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Re: Saboteur (Mafia Role)

Postby WaveAqualei » Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:53 pm

This role is suggested a lot and the main problem is that it doesn't work, due to people easily realizing there isn't a Mafia kill.
This might work better with the Coven, since they have multiple methods of killing and all have different kill messages, but it really doesn't work for Mafia.
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Re: Saboteur (Mafia Role)

Postby MysticMismagius » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:41 pm

Agreed, a role like this works much better on the Coven
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Re: Saboteur (Mafia Role)

Postby Soulshade55r » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:01 pm

personally i think forger could/should be able to rewrite death messages, not that forger is underpowered but this would be a nice buff to keep it around Janitors level.

Also allows forgers to reinforce fake claims such as vigilante or Veteran, for you Godfather or Mafioso.
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Re: Saboteur (Mafia Role)

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:39 pm

Soulshade55r wrote:personally i think forger could/should be able to rewrite death messages, not that forger is underpowered but this would be a nice buff to keep it around Janitors level.

Also allows forgers to reinforce fake claims such as vigilante or Veteran, for you Godfather or Mafioso.


Forger is much stronger than janitor tho?
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Re: Saboteur (Mafia Role)

Postby WaveAqualei » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:15 pm

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Soulshade55r wrote:personally i think forger could/should be able to rewrite death messages, not that forger is underpowered but this would be a nice buff to keep it around Janitors level.

Also allows forgers to reinforce fake claims such as vigilante or Veteran, for you Godfather or Mafioso.


Forger is much stronger than janitor tho?

Lower skill floor but higher skill ceiling. Most people think it's weaker because of bad people who get Forger.
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