jester/vampire change

[KAKERMAN23]

There is nothing more infuriating than being a jester and being bit by a vampire right when you think you're close to winning. I know vampire can't come up in non-chaos modes, but the point still stands that it sucks when this happens. My proposal is to either make jester immune to vampires or make jester die to a vampire bite. Thoughts?

[Brilliand]

Dying to a vampire bite would be more infuriating than being converted, since you 100% lose if that happens.

Also, vampires have a good reason not to bite a Jester who's on the verge of getting lynched: they don't want their newly-converted vampire to promptly get lynched.

I don't think there's anything to fix here.

[KAKERMAN23]

Maybe my viewpoint is biased because I spend more time on the trial system than in the actual game, so I see cases of people gamethrowing when they get bit. You bring up a really good point, but the problem is that not everyone is competent enough to understand that. However, that alone shouldn't be a reason to change a game mechanic. However, one strategy as a vampire is to bite people who push you so that they are forced to stop. As a jester, this can be frustrating. However, I agree with you at this point that no change is needed.

[n1ger]

I was just looking for it, thank you

[wojtekpolska]

i support this
there should be one of these solutions:

- Vampires get notified who is jester from the start of the game (this is a bit useless info to them in everything else. vampires knowing jester wouldn't break anything)
- Jester is immune to the bite (in the same way one escort is immune to another) - vampires get notified "You tried to attack Jester!" or something

tho this situation mentioned is kinda stupid, cuz vampires also see day chat and who would bite someone who is going to die the next day probably - even if it wasnt jester, it would be stupid to bite them

[Brilliand]

- Jester is immune to the bite (in the same way one escort is immune to another) - vampires get notified "You tried to attack Jester!" or something

This is too much like giving the Jester basic defense, imo.

[wojtekpolska]

This is too much like giving the Jester basic defense, imo.

no i mean only for vampires, he will still die from mafia/sk/vigi/etc

[Brilliand]

This is too much like giving the Jester basic defense, imo.

no i mean only for vampires, he will still die from mafia/sk/vigi/etc

Still too much like basic defense. That's part of what basic defense does.