New Role Idea - Ex-Mafia (Neutral Chaos)

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New Role Idea - Ex-Mafia (Neutral Chaos)

Postby SonicRPika » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:56 am

Role Name: Ex-Mafia


Role Alignment: Neutral Chaos


Abilities:
Each night, you visit one person to find out the Alignment of the person you visit.
If a Mafia or Town Killing visits you, you kill them instead.

Attributes:
- You will find out the Alignment of the person you visit (Town, Mafia, or Neutral)
- Any Coven roles you find will show up as Neutral
- If a Mafia or Town Killing visits you, you gain Basic Defence and deal a Powerful Attack to the attacker

Notifications:
If the Ex-Mafia visits a Town member, they will get the message "Your target is scared of you. They must be a Town member."
If the Ex-Mafia visits a Mafia member, they will get the message "Your target hates you for your betrayal. They must be a member of the Mafia."
If the Ex-Mafia visits any other role, they will get the message "You couldn't find much about your target. They are neither Town nor a member of the Mafia."
If a Mafia member visits the Ex-Mafia, they get the message "You visited the Ex-Mafia, and they shot you instead."
if a Town Killing visits the Ex-Mafia, they get the message "You visited the Ex-Mafia, and they shot you trying to defend themselves."
If the Ex-Mafia is visited by the Mafia, they get the message "The Mafia visited you, so you shot them."
If the Ex-Mafia is visited by a Town Killing, they get the message "Someone visited you with the intent of killing you, so you shot them."
If the Mafia is visited by an Ex-Mafia, they get the message "A traitor has come back to visit you."
If the Godfather is visited by an Ex-Mafia, they instead get the message "{Name} visited you last night, the traitor."

Goal:
Stop the Mafia from ruling the town. (Basically, it doesn't matter if they die, so long as the Mafia is all dead when the game ends)

Win Conditions:
You must kill the [/color=#FF0000]Mafia[/color]
You win with Serial Killers
You win with Arsonists
You win with Werewolves
You win with Witches
You win with the Town
You win with Survivors
You may spare anyone else

Special Attributes:


Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is a member of the mafia
Investigator - Your target knows some secrets about the mafia. They could be a [/color=#FF0000]Framer[/color], [/color=#FF0000]Consigliere[/color] or Ex-Mafia
Consigliere - Your target betrayed the mafia. They must be an Ex-Mafia

Achievements:
"Don't Hurt Me" - Kill a Town Killing role that visited you.
"I found you all" - Investigate all living members of the Mafia in the game.
"Peaceful Victory" - Win a game without being visited by any members of the Mafia.

Additional Information:
This role was designed to be a Neutral Evil role, but to the Mafia, while also being able to win with the Town. I wanted something, lore-wise, to them to be an ex-mafia member, and hence is now living his life in fear of being visited by them and killed, hence killing anyone who visits with a gun (note that the SK, WW and Arso would not be affected when visiting him, since SK uses a knife, WW is a beast, and Arso makes people burn alive). For this reason, the town will think they are Mafia, when really they are not.

Lore:
Living on the streets, this person was taken in by the Mafia to be a Consigliere. However, after some time, they realised what they were doing wasn't right. Now, they live in fear, afraid that the Mafia will visit them to kill them for their betrayal. The town knows he was a member of the mafia too, and so don't trust them either.

N.B. Apologies if this has already been suggested before. Any balancing ideas would be appreciated.
Gotta love tricking the town
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Re: New Role Idea - Ex-Mafia (Neutral Chaos)

Postby Brilliand » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:10 am

So this is a buffed Sheriff, that shows as Suspicious to normal sheriffs.

Sounds like a bad idea. The Miller concept (an innocent role that shows as Suspicious by default) is bad for Town of Salem.

This role is a buffed Sheriff in the sense that:
- It has a strictly easier win condition - it wins any time a Sheriff would win, plus in certain other cases (i.e. when the NK wins).
- It gets clearer information than the current Sheriff does (including being able to find the Godfather?!?)
- It ALSO gets the Vampire Hunter defense against every player it can't win with, plus some other killing roles. Why???

So I'm going with "extremely overpowered", with a side of "this type of role is bad for the game".
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Re: New Role Idea - Ex-Mafia (Neutral Chaos)

Postby junkymonky43 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:54 pm

Bad Idea, not the role, but the win condition. The Town is already looking for the Mafia, why have a Mafia hunter? Also, the fact that you cant see coven because... lore? Also bad idea, lore shouldn't affect how the game plays out.
Sorry man but /nosupport
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