Secret Hitler III: Revenge of the Fascists (Canned)

[Chemist1422]

cards played

I’ll post it once I get home

(I don’t need your comments about getting a co-host, RICK)

[Chemist1422]

A liberal policy has been played. Government Phase 4 begins. Bluedetroyer has 18 hours to pick a chancellor, or one will be chosen for him.

[Bluedetroyer]

So should I choose Arc?

[Rickdaily12]

So should I choose Arc?

No, can you please tell us what you received?

[Bluedetroyer]

So should I choose Arc?

No, can you please tell us what you received?

Blue & Red

[ejjinami]

Fun fact, blue completely forgetting about saying which cards he got might mean that he had no interest in lying or conflicting with ED, to begin with.
So yeah, there’s a high chance that he really is lib/(hit?), which should probably make alb’s alignment slightly more likely to be lib as well.

[ejjinami]

totally not a FM-like argument, hush, you saw nothing

and I'm getting really curious if there will be a conflict or not
that would be spicy

[Rickdaily12]

EvilD, what did you draw?

I think I still like the idea of Bluedetroyer picking Albanix to force Albanix to either play blue or out as Fascist. From the sounds of it, the remaining red cards left in the deck are getting pretty slim.

[Bluedetroyer]

I'm guessing ED got 2 Reds

[ejjinami]

EvilD, what did you draw?

I think I still like the idea of Bluedetroyer picking Albanix to force Albanix to either play blue or out as Fascist. From the sounds of it, the remaining red cards left in the deck are getting pretty slim.

The feeling when you kinda want to be picked already but know that it won’t happen lol

hey, ignore me if it’s a stupid idea or sth, but assuming there’s no conflict, would it be a good idea to try pairing Blue and phone?
No conflict would mean that there’s a high chance that either both Blue and ED are lib or one of them is lib and one hitler.
And if it’s the 2’nd, one of alb/phone would have to be fas.
So wouldn’t pairing blue and phone give info about the hitler PoE? IF both of them are green and everything is fine, it shouldn’t matter anyway, but a conflict starting among blue/phone would be probably highly informative….?

(again, just ignore me if it’s stupid. I don’t really trust phone and thinking about how the last prez/chancellor pair came to be kinda made me curious if it could work in reverse, lol… )

[ejjinami]

Hey @blue, do you think you would want to conflict ED as fas here?
Assuming both you and alb were fas, what do you think you would do?
It would be great if you could add some math to the explanation or elaborate at least a bit when answering

[Rickdaily12]

EvilD, what did you draw?

I think I still like the idea of Bluedetroyer picking Albanix to force Albanix to either play blue or out as Fascist. From the sounds of it, the remaining red cards left in the deck are getting pretty slim.

The feeling when you kinda want to be picked already but know that it won’t happen lol

hey, ignore me if it’s a stupid idea or sth, but assuming there’s no conflict, would it be a good idea to try pairing Blue and phone?
No conflict would mean that there’s a high chance that either both Blue and ED are lib or one of them is lib and one hitler.
And if it’s the 2’nd, one of alb/phone would have to be fas.
So wouldn’t pairing blue and phone give info about the hitler PoE? IF both of them are green and everything is fine, it shouldn’t matter anyway, but a conflict starting among blue/phone would be probably highly informative….?

(again, just ignore me if it’s stupid. I don’t really trust phone and thinking about how the last prez/chancellor pair came to be kinda made me curious if it could work in reverse, lol… )

If Phone is a Fascist, Phone can conflict with Bluedetroyer and the situation would get complicated really fast. Same goes for everyone else, really.

If Albanix is Fascist and conflicts with Bluedetroyer, we always know that if she's dead, it's 6 Liberals versus 3 Fascists- making it just about all but certain that the Fascists can only win by electing Hitler.

I think Channing Albanix is always the right call here. Even with her in conflict, this is the person she is saying is Liberal. In a presumably 4b 4r deck, if this government goes red, there will be heavy consequences she will have to pay.

[Rickdaily12]

If Albanix and Bluedetroyer are both Liberals, by the way, the Fascists are drooling at the prospects at keeping them both out of government right now. They REALLY want Bluedetroyer to pick a Fascist here so that they can enter conflict and lock two Liberals out. Especially when one of those Liberals has been peeked Liberal. If Albanix is a Liberal here, Blue entering conflict makes her look really bad.

And if Blue is Fascist, he's itching to either win our trust or conflict someone other than Albanix- what good would conflicting her be if she's a Fascist and already in conflict?

And if they're both Liberals, this is extremely likely to go blue given the deck composition- whether EvilD drew LFF or LLF.

[Bluedetroyer]

Hey @blue, do you think you would want to conflict ED as fas here?
Assuming both you and alb were fas, what do you think you would do?
It would be great if you could add some math to the explanation or elaborate at least a bit when answering

If I were fas I'd probably conflict ed by discarding the blue and claiming I got 2 reds

[Rickdaily12]

Hey @blue, do you think you would want to conflict ED as fas here?
Assuming both you and alb were fas, what do you think you would do?
It would be great if you could add some math to the explanation or elaborate at least a bit when answering

If I were fas I'd probably conflict ed by discarding the blue and claiming I got 2 reds

She's asking because the implications would be severe if you did that.

It would guarentee that you and Albanix are the same team opposing the trio of Phone, EvilD and timur.

[dota2reporter]

should blue pick alba?

[Rickdaily12]

should blue pick alba?

That's what I'm getting at, yes. Because all other players, if they're a Fascist, (sans Hitler) benefit from conflicting Blue right now if Blue is a Liberal.

All except Albanix.

And if Blue is Fascist, Blue wants to conflict any OTHER player, except for Albanix.

With such a blue deck according to the claims, if Blue picks Albanix, that government should absolutely go blue- or Albanix is nearly mechanically confirmed to be a Fascist.

[dota2reporter]

sans hitler???

not only did they add sans to smash hes now in WW2 too?

[Bluedetroyer]

Do you want me to wait so everyone has time to post?

[Arcthurus]

im reading the thread and dont oppose alb-chan

[Rickdaily12]

sans hitler???

not only did they add sans to smash hes now in WW2 too?

It just means that I don't think it would be in Hitler's best interest to enter conflict right now. Conflicting the Liberal peek of a checker who is already in conflict is extremely muddy. Hitler wouldn't even know for sure if Blue is Liberal or a Regular Fascist trying to protect Albanix if he got handed a choice by Blue.

Blue is also very likely to draw LLF- so odds are Hitler decent that Hitler would be handed LF and have no idea if Blue is Liberal or Fascist for doing it.

By conflicting Blue, the Hitler PoE gets narrowed pretty damn fast, and I don't think that Hitler in this case would look "not Hitler" enough to win by getting Chancellor later (especially since he would be term locked during the first government of Hitler Zone) and the odds of him getting shot would skyrocket.

So if Blue is Liberal, probably only a Regular Fascist is keen on conflicting him right now.

im reading the thread and dont oppose alb-chan

arc pls

your baas are distracting my ability to gamesolve <_<

Do you want me to wait so everyone has time to post?

Well, how long are you available for?

This has probably been the most liberating discussion about our next option before Hitler Zone starts. Do you have an opinion in all this, by the way? Why would you have picked Arc?

[Arcthurus]

its not a baa im just posting because blue asked if they should wait for everyone to post first

[Rickdaily12]

its not a baa im just posting because blue asked if they should wait for everyone to post first

I guess I'm poking you for being baa when I'm really trying to read you and mostly find you agreeing with me or being reactive to others. <_<

You haven't been in a government yet, in all complete fairness, and I can tell that you're new, but I'm really struggling to read just about everyone in the game for it.

[dota2reporter]

haha its kinda funny that rick replied seriously to my joke post

[Rickdaily12]

haha its kinda funny that rick replied seriously to my joke post

Eh, it more or less let me build more upon a thought that I already felt I had but could articulate by responding to you whether you were joking or serious, lol