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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 3 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:36 pm

Ddynamo wrote:Extremely unlikely. If we started with 7 towns, Retributionist would be guaranteed to give someone an evil role.

Also if you read Retri RC.

They may check a card.
They dont have to do. (But stupid thing not to)
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 3 Days left

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:01 pm

Well this is annoying
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Determinus » Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:20 pm

I'm Godfather (and didn't change), no Consig, saw Retri in the center
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:35 am

@deter

I want you to claim which card you checked as Retri.
(and Uzay confirm this if its true)
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Determinus » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:47 am

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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:37 am

Yeah it is correct
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:37 am

So , it means ED is Pestilence , right ?
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Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:41 am

Uzay?

If Deter says the truth he is either GF with an Evil as Pest
Or Pest with with Evil as PB (since Evil claimed when only him and Deter did not claim yet, evil safely could fakeclaim Retri (since PB knows there is a Pest) so he will surely conflict with Uzay (who most suggested a town in the mid according to the claim)
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:42 am

UzayAltay wrote:So , it means ED is Pestilence , right ?


It just excluded the option of Evil Pest and Deter PB option.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:45 am

@BRVR
Who wins if a mafia and the Pest get lynched?
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Ddynamo » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:50 am

It's really up to BRVR, but if a mafia and Pest both get lynched in a tie I would rule it as everyone but Pestilence winning since the goal of lynching Pestilence was still achieved.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby BRVR » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:56 am

Ddynamo wrote:It's really up to BRVR, but if a mafia and Pest both get lynched in a tie I would rule it as everyone but Pestilence winning since the goal of lynching Pestilence was still achieved.

Town would double win and mafia would win once.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:00 am

So mafia's no mafia should be lynched wincon is not alive in this scenario?
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:01 am

Last question:
Is selfvote allowed?
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:11 am

We cant set tie situation , and it Dont worth The risk .
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby BRVR » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:12 am

Cenvil2 wrote:So mafia's no mafia should be lynched wincon is not alive in this scenario?

If pestilence is in play then mafia is essentially a town member.

Cenvil2 wrote:Last question:
Is selfvote allowed?

Yes
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:19 am

Deter is pestilence, I was the actual Godfather.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:27 am

EvilDeanius0 wrote:Deter is pestilence, I was the actual Godfather.

Biggest lie I saw yet.
Pest can easily fakeclaim Consig as last person.
(2 checks in the graveyard gives a pretty strong claiming space for the third card after everyone claimed)
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:37 am

Cenvil2 wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Deter is pestilence, I was the actual Godfather.

Biggest lie I saw yet.
Pest can easily fakeclaim Consig as last person.
(2 checks in the graveyard gives a pretty strong claiming space for the third card after everyone claimed)

Why would it matter though, he only needs to get the one Uzay looked at right. Nobody else would have seen any of the cards so he can make up where the other mafia and the plaguebearer are. The only card you'd need to claim is the Retri
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:40 am

EvilDeanius0 wrote:Deter is pestilence, I was the actual Godfather.

Why You didnt out yourself when You was confirmed as liar ?
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Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:44 am

UzayAltay wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Deter is pestilence, I was the actual Godfather.

Why You didnt out yourself when You was confirmed as liar ?

Deter could have been PB with no pestilence, I had no way of knowing until he lied
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:51 am

UzayAltay wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Deter is pestilence, I was the actual Godfather.

Why You didnt out yourself when You was confirmed as liar ?


Btw, why you claimed when this does not change the Evil-Deter double lynch for the best move for 6 of 7 players?
Or are you opposed an Evil-Deter double lynch?
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:55 am

Cenvil2 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Deter is pestilence, I was the actual Godfather.

Why You didnt out yourself when You was confirmed as liar ?


Btw, why you claimed when this does not change the Evil-Deter double lynch for the best move for 6 of 7 players?
Or are you opposed an Evil-Deter double lynch?

Because How can We organize it ?
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Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby Cenvil2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:58 am

Unless Evil and Deter are PB and Pest they will vote each other almost 100% certainity.

If they are PB-Pest
Pest will vote PB and PB will selfvote.

Since mafia 100% will vote the Pest town needs only a 2-2 slip vote from 5 people.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Salem 4: (7/7) 2 Days left

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:06 pm

Lynching us both is the best play, I agree
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