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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Metrion » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:11 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:I might have misunderstood but this means there are new signups every week


I mean my writing was awful so that's on me.

For each queue there is a signup for the next game. When that game fills the next signup goes up on the queue in a weeks time. If a signup on a queue doesn't fill in a week, and there is no game for that queue being hosted then it gets booted to the back.

There will only ever be as many games hosted as the community can take, there is no penalty for games that sit in signups if other games are going on. There can be 2 games running or 10. It's dynamic to the size of the players.
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:12 pm

Metrion wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I might have misunderstood but this means there are new signups every week


I mean my writing was awful so that's on me.

For each queue there is a signup for the next game. When that game fills the next signup goes up on the queue in a weeks time. If a signup on a queue doesn't fill in a week, and there is no game for that queue being hosted then it gets booted to the back.

There will only ever be as many games hosted as the community can take, there is no penalty for games that sit in signups if other games are going on. There can be 2 games running or 10. It's dynamic to the size of the players.

Ah

Quite spicy

Although where does that leave games such as VFM34 (standard roles but special mechanics)?
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Metrion » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:19 pm

Either a voted setup or in the other pile of SFM.
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby EvanManManMan » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:19 pm

Metrion wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:I'm assuming you can also submit a closed rolelist through the community voted rolelist, in cooperation with a mod or something?


You'd just host closed games in SFM. You can't vote on a lost you don't know.

FMLSheWas12 wrote:why are you suggesting a change to the community when you could just implement it immediately

I posted it a 12am off of a single thought. Maybe people don't like the idea or I'm missing something, or there's input to he given.

EvanManManMan wrote:Games should not have labels at all


It's curated lists, newbie, and non-curated lists. I don't see your point can you explain it further?

I think one combined queue would be optimal

Just run newbie games on a periodic basis on top of the other games

The queue, assuming phases lengths are generally similar, also needs to be on a biweekly basis instead of a weekly one

A 36/12 13er with no extra KP that lasts until F3 with no short days takes exactly 2 weeks worth of days to finish. A 72/24 game, on the same principles, takes 4 weeks to finish. Assuming 2/3 games start each week, then by week 4 you have potential for 12 games running at once

ToS does not in any way have the player base to manage 12 games at once

Therefore using a biweekly system is best

I would run the queue so that 2 games run each week with an additional newbie game once every 2 weeks

The queue should be open to all submissions and not separated

I would generally go 1 big/1 small but 2 small works too

So basically, categories, other than newbie games, should be abolished so a smoother queue can be obtained

It's also just a dumb idea in general so
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby EvanManManMan » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:21 pm

I read your idea and like

No

Queues should have steady guidelines to prevent variability that the community can't handle

You need stability for success
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Metrion » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:35 pm

How are twelve games running if we don't have 12 games worth of people to fill those games? That's not even a potential flaw with the system I outlined as it just wouldn't happen. I don't think you understand the system given this. Your stream of thought in your posts are awful for comprehension, and when you don't even understand the concept I'm finding it hard to understand what it is you're saying.
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby TrueGent » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:42 pm

EvanManManMan wrote:Queues should have steady guidelines to prevent variability that the community can't handles

Metrion wrote:Standard Queue:
    Games from three possible lists
  • Episode Rolelist
  • Vanilla list
  • Community Voted List

Newbie Queue:
    Newbie games

Special Queue:
    Any other games


EDIT: also ur literally advocating for a queue with no guidelines
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby TheWabbit » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:42 am

Metrion wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:I might have misunderstood but this means there are new signups every week


I mean my writing was awful so that's on me.

For each queue there is a signup for the next game. When that game fills the next signup goes up on the queue in a weeks time. If a signup on a queue doesn't fill in a week, and there is no game for that queue being hosted then it gets booted to the back.

There will only ever be as many games hosted as the community can take, there is no penalty for games that sit in signups if other games are going on. There can be 2 games running or 10. It's dynamic to the size of the players.

So the games can be ran so long as the community could handle it? Like two standards/SFMs could be ran simultaneously, so long as their signups are filled?

I like that. It provides flexibility on the number of games that are currently being ran, without having the need for further announcements for queue adjustments.
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:37 am

When is this happening?
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby xUltiix » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:15 pm

This isn't the best idea imo; restricting standard games heavily ain't it chief
Letting people run what they want for standards should be okay as long as we dont have like 9 generic closed games in a row again
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby ZSSDistortion » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:59 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:When is this happening?


It's undecided whether it's happening or not at the moment.
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:56 pm

ZSSDistortion wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:When is this happening?


It's undecided whether it's happening or not at the moment.

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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby TheWabbit » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:30 pm

xUltiix wrote:This isn't the best idea imo; restricting standard games heavily ain't it chief
Letting people run what they want for standards should be okay as long as we dont have like 9 generic closed games in a row again

I'm in it for the weekly signups
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby TrueGent » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:05 pm

xUltiix wrote:This isn't the best idea imo; restricting standard games heavily ain't it chief
Letting people run what they want for standards should be okay as long as we dont have like 9 generic closed games in a row again

There has been like 1 unique standard game in the past 6 months
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Varanus » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:08 am

TrueGent wrote:
xUltiix wrote:This isn't the best idea imo; restricting standard games heavily ain't it chief
Letting people run what they want for standards should be okay as long as we dont have like 9 generic closed games in a row again

There has been like 1 unique standard game in the past 6 months

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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:09 pm

how the admins will shake up the board:

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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby xUltiix » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:55 pm

TrueGent wrote:
xUltiix wrote:This isn't the best idea imo; restricting standard games heavily ain't it chief
Letting people run what they want for standards should be okay as long as we dont have like 9 generic closed games in a row again

There has been like 1 unique standard game in the past 6 months

There won't be very unique games often at all if games become restricted like this imo
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby 0verki11 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:22 pm

standards suck because
1. people dont know what can be put in a standard and it be fine (16D/17B are good examples of Standards)
2. the people mentioned in 1 become very limited in what they can play as a setup.
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby TrueGent » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:35 pm

xUltiix wrote:
TrueGent wrote:
xUltiix wrote:This isn't the best idea imo; restricting standard games heavily ain't it chief
Letting people run what they want for standards should be okay as long as we dont have like 9 generic closed games in a row again

There has been like 1 unique standard game in the past 6 months

There won't be very unique games often at all if games become restricted like this imo

they arent unique under the current system either so who cares
if you want a different rolelist you can go vote for it and if you dont then you dont
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Varanus » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:46 pm

The point of standard games is that they're supposed to be standard, not unique
You don't need a special setup for a game to be interesting unless nobody is posting
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby Metrion » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:57 am

xUltiix wrote:

0verki11 wrote:


Special Queue:
Any other games


:WaitWhat:

If you have a regular closed game run it in special or get it voted in on your merit as a designer for the standard queue. You're points are moot as you still have the space to design whatever game you want.


Most likely when BMG switches forums then we'll switch to this if we are.
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby TheWabbit » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:42 pm

Metrion wrote:
xUltiix wrote:

0verki11 wrote:


Special Queue:
Any other games


:WaitWhat:

If you have a regular closed game run it in special or get it voted in on your merit as a designer for the standard queue. You're points are moot as you still have the space to design whatever game you want.


Most likely when BMG switches forums then we'll switch to this if we are.


We still get to keep the numbers post-transition, correct?
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Re: FM Board Shakeup?

Postby fwogcarf » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:46 pm

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