NFM Suggestion

[UzayAltay]

Rolelist :

TP
TK
RT
RT
RT
5x Cit
MH ( GF , Capo )
RM
RM

Additional :

Plurality , 16B changes , RT cant be TK , Only 1 RT can be cit , Mafia has Day chat , Factional Kills .

What are The opinions ?
( bolds are changes )

[RAmcius]

why this setup is more balanced than current one? How these changes increase maf chances to win?

[UzayAltay]

why this setup is more balanced than current one? How these changes increase maf chances to win?

16 B changes are mostly nerf for town and buff for Maf .
No confirmed TI
2 RM and Capo make it harder tor town to confirm players based on The Roles Mafia had .

[RAmcius]

first, you shouldn't use experimental changes in newbie game
why you prefer confirmed TK over confirmed TI?
capo shouldn't be used in in newbie game - it a bit complex role and requires knowledge of existing mafia roles and how to use them

[UzayAltay]

first, you shouldn't use experimental changes in newbie game
why you prefer confirmed TK over confirmed TI?
capo shouldn't be used in in newbie game - it a bit complex role and requires knowledge of existing mafia roles and how to use them

Actually , it is not just about It is experimental . Prankster is still 3-shot , and blackmailer is not difference from A role-lookout ( Day ability is useless ) , medium is impossible to fake as newbie , and even as an experienced If You havent Played as medium before , Vigilante is very swingy for NFM and it is A good change for it , so I am only not sure about lookout and Marshall . Marshall change make it closer to other TPs in ToS , so , The only problematic one is Lookout , but I Dont think it is A much big deal .
I preferred confirmed TK , Because NFM 's had RT cant be rolled TK thing , which I Dont want to touch .

Also I forget to add it , but , I think PC could be used as well .
Capo , Okay , it requires information and experience to use it with full benefit , but I think even as A newcomer , they can think self - training , or training to A ToS role which they think good on ToS ( mainly speaking about janitor and consort here ) So , even without best use , they could use it as Middle I think .

[RAmcius]

roles balance isn't NFM issue - anything that isn't standard shouldn't be used in NFM, or people might get confused, when they play standard game and roles will work different

what's PC?

[0verki11]

Capo is too complex for a standard.
Honeslty the best game to teach newbies is this.
Goon/Godfather
Consort
TP
TI
Cit (x5)

[chitownmvp01]

first, you shouldn't use experimental changes in newbie game
why you prefer confirmed TK over confirmed TI?
capo shouldn't be used in in newbie game - it a bit complex role and requires knowledge of existing mafia roles and how to use them

Actually , it is not just about It is experimental . Prankster is still 3-shot , and blackmailer is not difference from A role-lookout ( Day ability is useless ) , medium is impossible to fake as newbie , and even as an experienced If You havent Played as medium before , Vigilante is very swingy for NFM and it is A good change for it , so I am only not sure about lookout and Marshall . Marshall change make it closer to other TPs in ToS , so , The only problematic one is Lookout , but I Dont think it is A much big deal .
I preferred confirmed TK , Because NFM 's had RT cant be rolled TK thing , which I Dont want to touch .

Also I forget to add it , but , I think PC could be used as well .
Capo , Okay , it requires information and experience to use it with full benefit , but I think even as A newcomer , they can think self - training , or training to A ToS role which they think good on ToS ( mainly speaking about janitor and consort here ) So , even without best use , they could use it as Middle I think .

I agree with Uzay. I get the arguments that Capo is a complex role, but it is so prevalent in FM nowadays that I think it would be beneficial for new players to gain exposure to it early. Teammates can help out too.

Avoid experimental things in NFM. Plurality is already a thing.

[TheWabbit]

more like bring back the neutrals