Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

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Should mirrorer be removed

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Replace it with plaguebearer
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby ManateeDude » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:34 pm

Stop using standard as an arguement, Varanus used a Plaguebearer in a standard. Plurality is next to standard as well.
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby EvanManManMan » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:50 pm

ManateeDude wrote:Stop using standard as an arguement, Varanus used a Plaguebearer in a standard. Plurality is next to standard as well.

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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:07 pm

Can Prankster stop town from knowing who was transported?

ManateeDude wrote:Stop using standard as an arguement, Varanus used a Plaguebearer in a standard. Plurality is next to standard as well.

By this logic we could be entertaining role conversion. Plurality isn't standard either, it's to be used in setups that have too short of a day phase or too many players to make majority capable of being reached by normal circumstances most of the time. Otherwise it's too townsided of a mechanic and it promotes passive day play.
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby TrueGent » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:12 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
TrueGent wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
TrueGent wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
LinearPoint wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:Silencer won't do shit tbh

Silncer is a direct upgrade to Prankster.
You can make your Consort silent on top of removing the ability for investigative roles to function if you wanted.

And like you only use Prankster for silent roleblocks and maybe heals anyways.

Also, not 3-shot.

So it's a slightly buffed consort? A TI always gets results (even in the form of "no results") so it has no appeal.

Assuming changes in 16B are going to be standard, Prankster will likely no longer be 3-shot.

I ran prankster as infinite shot more than a year ago

But it's still not standard.

Exactly

If you were an FM Mod when that happened, that's on you for not pushing for it to be standard, not anyone else.

If you weren't, you could have still made a thread. I doubt anyone would disagree with you since it's being used in more than one game now.

And if I ran it infinite shot back then who cares if its standard or not
run your roles how you like no one is going to care
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby Varanus » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:58 am

Plurality is in fact considered standard
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby ManateeDude » Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:12 pm

Varanus wrote:Plurality is in fact considered standard

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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby Chemist1422 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:43 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
Varanus wrote:Plurality is in fact considered standard

:squidab:

That's really odd and shouldn't be a thing. Anything not in an Episode shouldn't be standard.

plurality is in an episode iirc

also are you saying NB isn't standard? Mayor isn't standard? Underboss isn't standard?
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby ManateeDude » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:51 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
Varanus wrote:Plurality is in fact considered standard

:squidab:

That's really odd and shouldn't be a thing. Anything not in an Episode shouldn't be standard.

plurality is in an episode iirc

also are you saying NB isn't standard? Mayor isn't standard? Underboss isn't standard?

All of those are currently not standard.

Plurality being in an episode sucks butts tbh, but most SP games won't have that so it's irrelevant.


Next to all games have plurality...
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby Varanus » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:35 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
Varanus wrote:Plurality is in fact considered standard

:squidab:

That's really odd and shouldn't be a thing. Anything not in an Episode shouldn't be standard.

plurality is in an episode iirc

also are you saying NB isn't standard? Mayor isn't standard? Underboss isn't standard?

All of those are currently not standard.

Plurality being in an episode sucks butts tbh, but most SP games won't have that so it's irrelevant.

They are all standard
Plurality is being used in practically every standard game run

You haven't played in god knows how long
Don't pretend to know things when you don't
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby RAmcius » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:03 am

Well, plurality found it's way to standards and episode, because you guys shortened day phases to 72 hours
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby ManateeDude » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:56 am

Kirize12 wrote:
Varanus wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
ManateeDude wrote:
Varanus wrote:Plurality is in fact considered standard

:squidab:

That's really odd and shouldn't be a thing. Anything not in an Episode shouldn't be standard.

plurality is in an episode iirc

also are you saying NB isn't standard? Mayor isn't standard? Underboss isn't standard?

All of those are currently not standard.

Plurality being in an episode sucks butts tbh, but most SP games won't have that so it's irrelevant.

They are all standard
Plurality is being used in practically every standard game run

You haven't played in god knows how long
Don't pretend to know things when you don't

how the hell is nb and town power standard

why is plurality in use

have i been cryogenically frozen


NB and TPow aren"t standard??
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby Varanus » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:19 am

They are standard
They just aren't considered fit for episodes
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby EvanManManMan » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:01 am

Can you all stop derailing this thread
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:21 am

EvanManManMan wrote:Can you all stop derailing this thread
RNG is never good for any strategy based game. Please learn the definition of what that means, especially if you're one of the people constantly defending it.

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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby RAmcius » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:17 am

EvanManManMan wrote:Can you all stop derailing this thread


Sorry for derailing and discussing actual stuff, but no one gives a fuck about mirrorer
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby EvanManManMan » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:32 am

RAmcius wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:Can you all stop derailing this thread


Sorry for derailing and discussing actual stuff, but no one gives a fuck about mirrorer

There was plenty of discussion before the derailment. That is a lie. This should occur and it has been explained why. The discussion of what is standard or not is completely idiotic and is only occuring because Kirize can't have intelligent thoughts. If you could not insult others and keep the thread on topic, it would be appreciated.
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby ManateeDude » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:42 am

EvanManManMan wrote:Can you all stop derailing this thread

Sure
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby Varanus » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:50 am

EvanManManMan wrote:Can you all stop derailing this thread

EvanManManMan also wrote:Your mom is standard

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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby RAmcius » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:53 am

EvanManManMan wrote:
RAmcius wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:Can you all stop derailing this thread


Sorry for derailing and discussing actual stuff, but no one gives a fuck about mirrorer

There was plenty of discussion before the derailment. That is a lie. This should occur and it has been explained why. The discussion of what is standard or not is completely idiotic and is only occuring because Kirize can't have intelligent thoughts. If you could not insult others and keep the thread on topic, it would be appreciated.


I will try to be polite then - you literally made pointless meme thread about pointless role that won't be used. But if you feel there is something more to talk about mirrorer, you should speak up and bring discussion back by posting that

P.S. you shouldn't ask other people not to insult others in same post, where you are insulting other people
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby TrueGent » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:34 pm

EvanManManMan wrote:Can you all stop derailing this thread

no because no one cares
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby TrueGent » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:34 pm

if people did care they would have voted on the roles ROFL
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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:43 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:
RAmcius wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:Can you all stop derailing this thread


Sorry for derailing and discussing actual stuff, but no one gives a fuck about mirrorer

There was plenty of discussion before the derailment. That is a lie. This should occur and it has been explained why. The discussion of what is standard or not is completely idiotic and is only occuring because Kirize can't have intelligent thoughts. If you could not insult others and keep the thread on topic, it would be appreciated.

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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby Kmenx » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:11 pm

TrueGent wrote:if people did care they would have voted on the roles ROFL

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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby OllyRenard » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:19 pm

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Re: Petition to remove Mirrorer from experimental rolecards

Postby Gobln » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:06 pm

Not sure why the FM Mods are so keen on adding tons of shitty experimental roles. I know they hate FM and all FM players, but they're being really blatant with their sabotaging nowadays.
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