Questions, Answers & Suggestions

[LiarGame]

What if we make another game (say Vanilla FM) have a queue-based Signup like NFM?

[Santa07]

What if we make another game (say Vanilla FM) have a queue-based Signup like NFM?

Just means mods are basically committing to have at least one game going at any given point of time which might be a bit of an ask.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Suggestion: Permanently remove Bomber from Episodic rolelist

Spoiler: tabtabGoing back to this I'm going to agree with Jammy here about shifting up a through things regarding the episodic rolelist. First reason is that it's success can vary based upon whatever else rolled. Investigator/Consigliere/Arsonist isn't going to help you that much as opposed to Sheriff/Vigilante. Second reason is that it detracts from the overall game experience since it forces town to use process of elimination to out the bomber in a lot of cases since that's usually more effective than scumhunting for one specific person who, unlike NKs, don't have any kill pattern to analyze. And given that bombers so far haven't had much difficulty setting off fuses the pool of potential suspects will be large. I know that when the rolelist was first proposed Met stated that bomber promotes scumhunting from all factions, but that brings us to the third, and most important problem in my opinion: since bomber has been around (and starting with 4D I believe), the losing faction can simply kingmake the bomber, be it a town with no majority or a mafia that is unlikely to win anyways. In essence, kingmaking. Personally I've never been a fan of the "we should just let the bomber win" mentality.
tabtabNot entirely sure what it would be replaced with. According to the game type guides the only other SP neutral is double, but that doesn't fill in the spot bomber takes where town is punished for leaking out too much information. Adding in another anti-town neutral would present an issue of having two individual kingmakers between mafia and NK if that situation ever arises. And removing the slot altogether is an unnecessary buff to town.

tabtabI'd also wouldn't mind if the town support slot was changed to something else. It's 50/50 Medium/Escort which presents an issue of having it be more contested for counterclaims than investigative and protective. Plus Escort is harsh on NKs. It's better off to let it roll in random town. However, I also don't know what an adequate replacement slot for it would be.
Just my two cents. I've never liked bomber in general anyways so I'm probably biased.

[RhazhBash]

I have 2 ideas for what to replace Bomber with.

Option #1:Moderator's choice Neutral. Mod picks whatever Neutral he thinks would be good to use in an episode, doesn't tell the players which one, and goes from there. Assuming the mod makes a decent pick I'd like it over Bomber.

Option #2:Don't replace it. Nothing wrong with a 19p game, in fact odd numbers are standard on most other sites.

[TrueGent]

or replace it with Stalker

[Metrion]

or replace it with Stalker

So Rhazh's second option?

[Metrion]

If more than one "true" NE is added, I could see two NE slots, maybe one confirmed witch since I consider it the strongest IMO.

This has basically always been the plan, yes.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

When will winners recieve Ep. X Flairs?

Not everyone deserves one, so maybe nobody got em.

Alright, think this was brought up, but instead of removing Bomber(fine IMO) remove Spy from episodes. Completely ruined Ep. 9 and Ep. 10 for scum.

[ObiWan]

When will winners recieve Ep. X Flairs?

Not everyone deserves one, so maybe nobody got em.

Alright, think this was brought up, but instead of removing Bomber(fine IMO) remove Spy from episodes. Completely ruined Ep. 9 and Ep. 10 for scum.

That will be happening.

[Santa07]

I think bomber is fine, people just need to play it right. Cakez did it so there's no reason why anyone else can't. There's not too much of a problem with it, and it adds a new level of dynamic to the game. If it is replaced I like the idea of a second true NE.

[deferentsheep]

aesthetics

[ObiWan]

What's the point of backups if the mods are just gonna ignore it and ask people to PM them?

I don't ask for backups.

[Santa07]

I think bomber is fine, people just need to play it right. Cakez did it so there's no reason why anyone else can't. There's not too much of a problem with it, and it adds a new level of dynamic to the game. If it is replaced I like the idea of a second true NE.

It's not about whether you can win with it or not though, it's about the fact that it's wildly chaotic, and we got rid of most neutrals and town powers to remove "wildly chaotic" mentality and focus solely on competitive play.

You do have a point there, for me I do feel that roles like exe are on the same level as bomber (NOT jester)

[Alzar]

Executioner isn't standard anymore, though.

[TheCow]

The episode should use a more streamlined, competitive role list due to its nature as s competitive game.

[stellaluna]

It's not about whether you can win with it or not though, it's about the fact that it's wildly chaotic, and we got rid of most neutrals and town powers to remove "wildly chaotic" mentality and focus solely on competitive play.

blandness and lack of variety =/= competitive play

[chitownmvp01]

Suggestion: If a player is WotC'd from a game and joins a NFM game, the FM Mod hosting the game should have the right to kick the WotC'd player from the game if they believe that the player was Wotc'd for a reason that will hurt the game experience for new players and/or the Wotc'd player has not learned their lesson.

Suggestion: If a player was warned in a game and their spot in the NFM quene is reached, the FM Mod hosting the game should have the right to kick the player from the game. This is a way to further ensure that someone who was disrespectful, spamming, etc. cannot set a bad example to new players.

These are no longer viable suggestions since one similar to the first one was implemented. See below:

A Moderator may remove you from the NFM queue if they feel that you are not a good fit for NFM as a non-newbie.
Should you not see your name on the queue any longer, you may PM the moderator and ask why you were removed.
Disrespect rule still applies here.

[JazzMusicStops]

Idea: Host a UPick game that isn't TFM so people in other timezones have a chance to join

[chitownmvp01]

Idea: Host a UPick game that isn't TFM so people in other timezones have a chance to join

How about a 20 player UPick game?

[JazzMusicStops]

Idea: Host a UPick game that isn't TFM so people in other timezones have a chance to join

How about a 20 player UPick game?

yes

[chitownmvp01]

Idea: Host a UPick game that isn't TFM so people in other timezones have a chance to join

How about a 20 player UPick game?

yes

This is a stretch, but an even larger UPick game would be cool. Maybe 30 players. A UPick GFM would be too much to handle. Another GFM would be cool though.

[JazzMusicStops]

We need a GGIFM
GFM mixed with GIM

[chitownmvp01]

We need a GGIFM
GFM mixed with GIM

It would be interesting and chaotic for sure!

/support

[alex1234321]

I think that the FM Joke Thread should be expanded into an entire subforum because there are still some people making jokes outside the joke thread.

[chitownmvp01]

I think that the FM Joke Thread should be expanded into an entire subforum because there are still some people making jokes outside the joke thread.

FM Lounge

A more serious version of Lounge

This makes sense because FM Discussion is supposed to be used for discussion about FM, not joke threads.

/support