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epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:06 pm

i was not gonna make this bc i thought people wouldnt want another role idea thread on fm discussion but then i remembered the last 3 threads are shitposts so i no longer care. also no this is not a role idea for town of salem the epic flash game it's a suggestion for ToS FM so please dont attack me thank you

ok so like remember the predator role that never got used after my 18E game

probably not

anyway

predator was basically like a SK variant, difference between it and SK being that it offered more leeway in that you gain a charge each night up to a maximum of 3, and you can multikill depending on how many charges you have. along with some other less notable changes like only being detected when killing but hosts can do whatever they want with that shit. also unable to be roleblocked when multikilling or whatever, something something here's the actual rolecard:

Spoiler: Predator

You are a Predator.

Your alignment is Neutral Killing.

You are a monstrous psychopath with an intense urge to hunt down and eat your fellow residents.
No one has yet lived to expose your maniacal tendencies, and you intend to keep up this trend in your newly found town.
Your only motivation to exist is to satisfy your ravenousness; engulfed by selfishness, you care not for the lives you demolish.
As time passes without eating, you will become more famished, allowing you to eat many in one sitting. However, your stomach can't hold too much at once!

Every night you will gain a kill charge. You can use a charge on the night you receive it, or store it for later use.
You may kill an amount of players up to and including the number of charges you have.
You can hold a maximum of 3 charges at once. If you have 3 charges before going into a night, you will not gain a charge for that night.
You have night immunity. If somebody tries to attack you, they will receive a message saying that you were immune.
You are roleblock immune on nights which you multi kill. The roleblocker will not be notified that you are roleblock immune.
If someone tries to roleblock you when single killing, you will attack them instead of your chosen target.
You will appear suspicious to the Sheriff only on nights which you kill.
You will appear to not have visited anyone to the Tracker when you are multi-killing.
In a situation where only you and the Godfather remain, you will win the game.
In a situation where only you and the Arsonist or Serial Killer remain, you will lose the game.

You win with Predators
You win with Survivors
You win with Witches
You must kill the Town
You must kill the Mafia
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else
so basically the main issue with the role that i gathered from the 18E game i hosted using it is that the degree of unpredictability and difficulty for other factions to prepare for multiple deaths all chosen on one night is likely too high, which is a similar issue to arsonist with silent douses. which could be fun for chaos but if we're talking balance it's probably not the best thing

so like i'm thinking the best idea to fix that issue is probably to make it so that predator can mark people on the nights they don't kill, which counts as a visit and gives a notification (which will get rid of the main issues of unpredictability and difficulty of preparation for other factions) similar to a not silent arsonist douse. so when they decide to multikill on a given night, they must kill all previously marked players and may also choose an unmarked player to also kill that night. or you can alternatively just single kill if you haven't marked anyone. also there's no longer a limit of 3 on the multikill because i don't really see much reason for a limit to exist (the limit does not exist lol epic XD)

so basically the base idea is now a sk and arso hybrid without having shitty kpn like arsonist does, granting greater versatility than either role in that you can utilise aspects of either role when you want rather than being limited to following the game plan of either one or the other, whilst also in theory (imo for now @ me if u think im mega dumby and wrong) not having any significant issues such as unpredictability when multikilling which was the issue with predator before.

idk what is best for interactions, where it becomes somewhat difficult to find a good balance of what feels right, since you need to consider balancing the utility of single/less kills and multi/more kills along with other things. my take on what might be decent for interactions is given in role card below (im open to suggestions on how interactions could be improved)

also sike the role is still called Predator but i could change the name i guess if u guys find something more epic

new role card:

Spoiler: Predator

You are a Predator.

Your alignment is Neutral Killing.

You are a monstrous psychopath with an intense urge to hunt down and eat your fellow residents.
No one has yet lived to expose your maniacal tendencies, and you intend to keep up this trend in your newly found town.
Your only motivation to exist is to satisfy your ravenousness; engulfed by selfishness, you care not for the lives you demolish.

You may choose to either mark a player or attack player/s each night.
When you attack, all previously marked players will die (should there be any), along with your attack target for that night.
If you attack and there are no previously marked players, you will only attack your target for that night.
You have night immunity. If somebody tries to attack you, they will receive a message saying that you were immune.
Your method of killing always ignores night immunity.
You are roleblock immune on nights which you kill multiple players. The roleblocker will not be notified that you are roleblock immune.
If someone tries to roleblock you when single killing, you will attack them instead of your chosen target.
You will appear suspicious to the Sheriff only on nights which you do not kill.
You will appear to not have visited anyone to the Tracker when you are multi-killing.
You win if it is just you and the Godfather or Serial Killer remaining.
You lose if it is just you and the Arsonist remaining.

You win with Predators
You win with Survivors
You win with Witches
You must kill the Town
You must kill the Mafia
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else

Additional Notes: Marking a player counts as a visit, which can be seen by Tracker/LO + other similar roles, and can be roleblocked.
also pls note this is intended as a variant/hybrid of both Arsonist and SK, so my intention is not to make an original role here but rather to make a role which is overall more fun than both of the roles it's utilising as a hybrid since it allows the player greater versatility in how they want to play, whilst still being a balanced NK role. also, yes i am aware it has greater potential utility than both arsonist and sk. unless you're arguing the utility it has is too high, having higher utility than sk/arso doesn't make it unbalanced

please give me epic thoughts and ideas and criticism and stuff and tell me if u like much thank
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Varanus » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:41 pm

> posting nk ideas in 2020
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:48 pm

Varanus wrote:> posting nk ideas in 2020

if nk is still going to be used might as well try and make a nk role marginally more fun so i dont get bored to death

uwu
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:17 pm

i'll use arsk in my future standards
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:47 pm

TheWabbit wrote:i'll use arsk in my future standards

ok

Ill cohost and do nothing

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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby TheWabbit » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:05 am

Flake wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:i'll use arsk in my future standards

ok

Ill cohost and do nothing

OWO

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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:13 pm

thanks for 100k views!
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby JacksonVirgo » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:43 pm

Flake wrote:thanks for 100k views!

You are very welcome
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:12 pm

thank for 125,000 views!
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:12 am

thanks for 150 million views!

i really didnt expect this so go so viral haha
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby TheDebil » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:49 pm

bro i gave u reddit gold why didnt you say thanks for the gold kind stranger reported
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:57 pm

TheDebil wrote:bro i gave u reddit gold why didnt you say thanks for the gold kind stranger reported

yes
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Kmenx » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:04 pm

TheDebil wrote:bro i gave u reddit gold why didnt you say thanks for the gold kind stranger reported

Because kind stranger was killed in a drive by
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:09 pm

Kmenx wrote:
TheDebil wrote:bro i gave u reddit gold why didnt you say thanks for the gold kind stranger reported

Because kind stranger was killed in a drive by

but

but

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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Varanus » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:41 am

Game Moderator Message: Either this thread can be used to talk about the (bad) role, or it can be locked
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby JacksonVirgo » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:56 am

Varanus wrote:Either this thread can be used to talk about the (bad) role, or it can be locked

The role is legendary though
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:13 am

Varanus wrote:
Game Moderator Message: Either this thread can be used to talk about the (bad) role, or it can be locked

its not even bad loser

aside from it having the inherent issue of being a nk role lul
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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Google » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:51 am

Ill use this in minecraft mafia

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Re: epic role idea: arsk (better known as arse XD)

Postby Flake » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:10 am

Google wrote:Ill use this in minecraft mafia

thats so epic thanx!
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