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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:23 am
by UzayAltay
Flake wrote:uzay is mafia for barely acknowledging cupcake's existence up until Dash's check on cupcake

only things they had on cupcake were their last 2 posts end of d1:

UzayAltay wrote:/vote Crimson

İ couldn't be ale to read proto with this sleep
But i am Remembering hım contributing,
And Crimson contributing less than cupcake with more post, more experience is just showing FUTR to me (fly under the radar )

Wont be against cupcake Lynch, TBH İ would vote them without reading ISOs but after isos ,Crimson is just textbook FUTR here.
And i am thinking Cup should almost always lynched if He keep that attitude day 2 , And not lynched day 1.
And i need sleep :Salute:

"I would vote them if..." seems incredibly wolfy, seems like you're trying to justify not voting your mafia buddy

UzayAltay wrote:#3168007#3169004: Weird entire posts, first one is a bit concerning. He isnt experienced like Crimson or Seth, but this isnt a meta like tfios as i know. TBH i want to classify this same with Crimson, but if Wè exclude read looking, they are different, but from read Wise it is same with Crimson , it give me Weird vibe, but cant exactly tell "this is scummy "

#3168026 , feels geniune.
#3168032 , tbh seems geniune on one hand, when but at the other hand seems off.

Last Post : (PS -also includes cooments about their vote on me )
Pro -v , include 2 reads (më +dash )
About their vote, it dont seem geniune to me, seems like a memevote but we Arent in memephase and He also didn't acted like in memephase much.

Comment on post 3168007 is incredibly fence-sitty, lengthy analysis to basically conclude "lol idk if it's scummy tbh"

Comment on post 3168026 is just stupid, scum can easily state the obvious so i don't see how it's genuine by any stretch of the imagination, this take seems very forced

Comment on post 3168032 is fence sitting again

uzay is supposed to be at least decent at the game and basically never had a not fence sitting take on pre check cupcake as town???

not buying it

1) I just caught up and went at The time before Dash's check .
You are just legit tunneling without Actually look The Player here .
And How many players really Spoke about Cupcake , or pushed cupcake ?
2) It isnt " I would vote them If X Dont happen/Y happen " .
It is A comparation of my vibe before ISO -reads and after ISO - reads .
3) Okay , What should I Said ? " Lol This opening post is definitely Coming from scum " ? How many of players Said that ? Answer : 0 .
I state I am getting Weird vibe , even cant exactly say " Scummy " . You was The one saying " it isnt anti-town " , I Dont want to say " Scummy " Because even it is anti-town , Crimson is The example town can Also Did that .
4) I looked The tone
It seems More likely to me town!cupcake shading Zucker Than scum .
5) In one hand , that seems A geniune reason , on The other hand , that seems A blockage for not producing comment .
6) You Literally ignored my Last point .
" Last Post : (PS -also includes cooments about their vote on me )
Pro -v , include 2 reads (më +dash )
About their vote, it dont seem geniune to me, seems like a memevote but we Arent in memephase and He also didn't acted like in memephase much."
I Said their Last post is protown .
And due to they Actually townreading me , their post which they voted me is Scummy ( not geniune ) .
Which I [post]/post] before , but not explained at that time , due I need their Last post for comment about That.


Flake wrote:I think Mafia team is {cupcake, uzay, tfios}

Why would Mafia!me Will try to change Your tfios read ?
You started making less and less sense .

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:25 am
by UzayAltay
And Chem , can You stop dodging me?

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:02 pm
by tfiosforevah
Flake wrote:@tfios

are you scum?

No I’m actually cit

I honestly thought cupcake was bad town, but with the ml and dash’s red check it’s obvious that I mixed up the reads

/vote cupcake

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:03 pm
by Chemist1422
tfiosforevah wrote:No I’m actually cit

can we not

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:09 pm
by Zucker
Chemist1422 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:No I’m actually cit

can we not


Nice Uzay Dodge.
SK, if Cupcake is Mafia Kill this because this is Mafia easy.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:11 pm
by Chemist1422
Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:No I’m actually cit

can we not


Nice Uzay Dodge.
SK, if Cupcake is Mafia Kill this because this is Mafia easy.

What am I even dodging

No one's telling me

Re: VFM 49: Day 1

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:12 pm
by Chemist1422
Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist you're seriously not helping your case

I'm trying, okay?

You're saying I faked the slip knowingly and actually slipped because I knew it would be fake, but I explained what actually happened. If you're not refuting that you can't push me based on the slip.

Wait What This is completely wrong .
If You are Okay with Flake TR ing You with your slip
But not aggreeing with Dash SR ing You with your flip
Than This is LAMIST
Which is FoS
Due You not keeping your original opinion ( Slip was NAI )
Happily take The cred from Flake
But refusing SRs
Actually This deserves A vote
But I Will Wait for your explanation

Quoting again for that being visible again

I missed this post

Dash wasn’t acknowledging my points, Flake was

See this

I answered it right here

Make sure you don't miss this post

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:13 pm
by Zucker
Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:No I’m actually cit

can we not


Nice Uzay Dodge.
SK, if Cupcake is Mafia Kill this because this is Mafia easy.

What am I even dodging

No one's telling me


So Uzay doesn’t exist?

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:38 pm
by cupcakeaj2
/vote Flake

Operation Lolcat starts

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Zucker dash claimed a red check on cupcake. Are you reading?


This is SK because Flake and Debil said so

TheDebil wrote:aight boys so im feeling kinda unmotivated so ill post a full catchup as soon as d3 begins since from what i have seen my slot isnt townread and has low contributions so i dont think i am to be attacked
(dont attack me)
one of my family members had a stroke so probably not gonna be able to play much fm today sadly


Behind Vigi

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm
by ejjinami
Chemist1422 wrote:yes I'm mafia with flake and proto seth caught us and is an fm god /s
Seth you haven't given a single reason for anything you've said at all this game and it really needs to stop

^^^^^^^^^

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@ tfio, have your reads changed in any way after the cop claim?

Flake wrote: I believe proto to be town

If I understood it correctly, your read on proto is based on scum!him sometimes making “serious posts” in order to appear townie. Tbh I really doubt you should have been able to confidently read him based on his first few posts, but ok. How confident are you in that read?

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm
by ejjinami
I'm a page-top god

and hi cup

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:42 pm
by UzayAltay
Chemist1422 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist you're seriously not helping your case

I'm trying, okay?

You're saying I faked the slip knowingly and actually slipped because I knew it would be fake, but I explained what actually happened. If you're not refuting that you can't push me based on the slip.

Wait What This is completely wrong .
If You are Okay with Flake TR ing You with your slip
But not aggreeing with Dash SR ing You with your flip
Than This is LAMIST
Which is FoS
Due You not keeping your original opinion ( Slip was NAI )
Happily take The cred from Flake
But refusing SRs
Actually This deserves A vote
But I Will Wait for your explanation

Quoting again for that being visible again

I missed this post

Dash wasn’t acknowledging my points, Flake was

See this

I answered it right here

Make sure you don't miss this post

I missed This .

The thing is It isnt What You First Said .
You Said that " If Dash want to Scumread me , he need to refute my points "
The thing is with that Logic , nobody can read sb based on sth .
How ?
Flake is townreading You based on that slip and afterward , right ?
Okay , Let's wrote , " If Flake want to TR You , they need to refute Dash's point/ points which Show You may be scum . "

If You Gave A reaction Like " Dash , If You aren't listening me and my points , You are just tunneling without thinking I am town , and your scumread is just baseless " , Okay , but This reaction is just Scummy IMO .

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:47 pm
by ejjinami
Qvapil wrote:
Flake wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Oh I get it. Thanks, you're being really helpful.

is it just me that finds this fake

Dude are you being serious? I asked a question, uzay answered and I fucking thanked him. I think you're looking at this with confirmation bias to justify my place in your scumteams.
By the way, what are your thoughts on ejji's vca megapost? They argued pretty convincingly in favour of uzay, who you are against, and in general the points they presented differed from your pools of possible scum.

you're overreacting, it's not the first time Flake has reacted in a way that (often objectively) doesn't make sense and it’s not like this one was even that bad. I find it funny how everyone seems to notice it only when it concerns them and completely ignore it when it doesn’t.
and since you asked about it, what’s your read on me?

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:01 pm
by ejjinami
Flake’s read change on Tfio seems natural.


Rickdaily12 wrote:I was completely wrong about this weekend getting any easier on me. It's not going to. I'm really sorry, guys.
/vote cupcake
It's basically hell from now until Monday. I'll try to pop on when I can between work and family, and if I can't commit, I might have to replace out.
Right now, assuming Dash is actually Cop (because I have every reason to believe this and no reason not to), three more scum remain. I still think the entry between Flake and Chemist was odd and didn't look like TvT to me when I first looked at it.
My strongest Town reads after Dash are probably Qvapil and Ejj. Goomba has also improved just on quick skimming. Zucker is Town or dies fairly soon if he isn't based on EoD yesterday. Everyone else is null or worse or could be Town but has something questionable in my mind right now.
I didn't want to end the day without my vote or without at least giving my take on the very general of it all. If I have time before EoD I'll try expanding on this some more.

it’s ok, take your time
I think I remember 0ver saying that the day starts early in the morning for him, so I think fair chances are that either the day-end or day-start will be delayed for a few hours.
don’t replace out ):

Flake wrote:Makes sense why I'd be kept alive if that were the case
If my D1 reads were decent I think I'd be dead

honestly, based on the way people reacted to dash, he should have been killed before you and way before Eragon/phone, regardless of your reads.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:04 pm
by ejjinami
now that I think of it, @uzay, you seemed to be TRing Crimson a bit more than SRing, so why exactly did you end up voting him?

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:05 pm
by ejjinami
off topic
@uzay, are you posting on mobile or on PC?
if on PC, have you considered downloading an app that checks for grammar/spelling mistakes? Google “grammarly” or sth
I don’t actually remember which app I’m using, but I think it has helped me A LOT. :P
so you know, I absolutely recommend you to try sth like that out as well.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:23 pm
by ejjinami
Flake, can you actually respond to my questions and the stuff I said about you?
meaning: the read on tfio, grumpy, you provoking rick, my response to your SR

You changing your mind about me being mafia means nothing. Prior to your MvM idea about me and rick, you seemed to be reading me as SK, so why exactly are you acting as if I’m town now?
Besides, no offense, but I find your demeanour incredibly irritating. You push and TR a lot of people, but at the same time a lot of your reads are based on shitty, undependable meta arguments and stuff that can easily be faked. You don’t also seem to think very much before posting and often seem to notice only those explanations, which can give you a read, while completely ignoring everything else, which honestly, I don’t know if is just because of your temperament or because of you thinking that “you don’t have to think, because being loud is enough”.
My point is, talk to me. You’re not the only person trying to read people here and honestly, I have no intentions of acting like a saint and assuming that all of my pushes were wrong just because you don’t think they’re important enough to answer.

same with chemist.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=99445&start=1575#p3171943
and with grumpy
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=99445&start=1600#p3172057

I shouldn’t have needed to write all of that.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:30 pm
by UzayAltay
ejjinami wrote:now that I think of it, @uzay, you seemed to be TRing Crimson a bit more than SRing, so why exactly did you end up voting him?

:Thonk:
Are you sure you read it correct?
Pretty sure it is Not close to the case.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:33 pm
by UzayAltay
ejjinami wrote:off topic
@uzay, are you posting on mobile or on PC?
if on PC, have you considered downloading an app that checks for grammar/spelling mistakes? Google “grammarly” or sth
I don’t actually remember which app I’m using, but I think it has helped me A LOT. :P
so you know, I absolutely recommend you to try sth like that out as well.


From 41 games, i had a max around 100 posts i sent From pc (probably less than that ).
Rest is mobile.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:33 pm
by UzayAltay
ejjinami wrote:off topic
@uzay, are you posting on mobile or on PC?
if on PC, have you considered downloading an app that checks for grammar/spelling mistakes? Google “grammarly” or sth
I don’t actually remember which app I’m using, but I think it has helped me A LOT. :P
so you know, I absolutely recommend you to try sth like that out as well.


From 41 games, i had a max around 100 posts i sent From pc (probably less than that ).
Rest is mobile.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:40 pm
by UzayAltay
Flake wrote:I’m really busy right now but I’m just gonna make some quick comments, sorry if I am dodging people but I don’t have time to make lengthy arguments and stuff

Ejji my sudden shift in now believing you are not mafia is because you overlooked dash’s redcheck on cupcake, implying you were very likely not in a mafia chat, it is possible that you faked this or mafia just didn’t make the comment in mafia chat, but I doubt it

Same goes for Zucker

Tfios I am relatively unsure on, but I think they actually flip town for being blunt, but that is an uncertain read

Most of my meta reads make complete sense imo, namely the ones on proto and tfios, I’m not seeing how they are shitty at all, I think they are indiciative to at least some extent


Yes, ejj, Will you say sth?

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:45 pm
by ejjinami
Current VC

Cupcake (6) Dash2, GrumpyGoomba, Chemist1422, Flake, Rickdaily12, tfiosforevah
Chemist1422 (1) Zucker
Flake (1) cupcakeaj2

That's L-1.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:46 pm
by ejjinami
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:I’m really busy right now but I’m just gonna make some quick comments, sorry if I am dodging people but I don’t have time to make lengthy arguments and stuff

Ejji my sudden shift in now believing you are not mafia is because you overlooked dash’s redcheck on cupcake, implying you were very likely not in a mafia chat, it is possible that you faked this or mafia just didn’t make the comment in mafia chat, but I doubt it

Same goes for Zucker

Tfios I am relatively unsure on, but I think they actually flip town for being blunt, but that is an uncertain read

Most of my meta reads make complete sense imo, namely the ones on proto and tfios, I’m not seeing how they are shitty at all, I think they are indiciative to at least some extent


Yes, ejj, Will you say sth?

I was counting votes, let me quote.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:47 pm
by ejjinami
wait, wrong quote
I thought you were quoting your own post, lol

it still doesn't matter though

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 2:49 pm
by ejjinami
UzayAltay wrote:
ejjinami wrote:now that I think of it, @uzay, you seemed to be TRing Crimson a bit more than SRing, so why exactly did you end up voting him?

:Thonk:
Are you sure you read it correct?
Pretty sure it is Not close to the case.
UzayAltay wrote:#3168007#3169004: Weird entire posts, first one is a bit concerning. He isnt experienced like Crimson or Seth, but this isnt a meta like tfios as i know. TBH i want to classify this same with Crimson, but if Wè exclude read looking, they are different, but from read Wise it is same with Crimson , it give me Weird vibe, but cant exactly tell "this is scummy "

#3168026 , feels geniune.
#3168032 , tbh seems geniune on one hand, when but at the other hand seems off.

Last Post : (PS -also includes cooments about their vote on me )
Pro -v , include 2 reads (më +dash )
About their vote, it dont seem geniune to me, seems like a memevote but we Arent in memephase and He also didn't acted like in memephase much.

OFF, didn’t check all links, I assumed the whole post was about crimson, when it was about cup…
nvm. I think I have to revise my reads then