VFM 49: SK win #rekt

[Chemist1422]

Yeah I haven't liked Crimson's defense

It's not flaily per se, just like they're only invested in defending themselves and not solving

[Crimson97]

I quickly read through crimson and cupcake's isos. I still think cupcake feels different from our scum game together. Crimson hasn't really done anything. They don't have enough content for me to comfortably read them but I don't want to lynch cupcake rn. I'll place my vote here for lack of better alternatives and I hope I'll wake up early enough tomorrow to maybe switch.
/vote crimson

If you don't feel comfortable enough to read me and don't want cupcake lynched how about you go look into someone else?

Why? What makes you so Town?

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

[Rickdaily12]

That one of you are Puppeting each other.
As in like one of you are scum trying to lean on them however I believe your both scum and just don’t know it. Like SK/Mafia.

Oh, this?

Isn't Zucker here trying to say that Scum!Crimson and Scum!Dash are trying to puppet each other?

...lol, okay, I get it know. Crimson, I think your first mistake was trying to understand Zucker.

[Crimson97]

Yeah I haven't liked Crimson's defense

It's not flaily per se, just like they're only invested in defending themselves and not solving

Well yeah, it's a defense. What do you think about my points?

[Crimson97]

That one of you are Puppeting each other.
As in like one of you are scum trying to lean on them however I believe your both scum and just don’t know it. Like SK/Mafia.

Oh, this?

Isn't Zucker here trying to say that Scum!Crimson and Scum!Dash are trying to puppet each other?

...lol, okay, I get it know. Crimson, I think your first mistake was trying to understand Zucker.

Apparently they had previously said something about that ut i can't find anything on their ISO.

[Crimson97]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

Why not?

[Chemist1422]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

I wouldn't say it's towny but I'd advise against dealing in absolutes

Yeah I haven't liked Crimson's defense

It's not flaily per se, just like they're only invested in defending themselves and not solving

Well yeah, it's a defense. What do you think about my points?

So why are you only defending and not doing other stuff

[Rickdaily12]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

Why not?

- doesn't mind being voted without good reason
- doesn't push being townie, especially not how what you've been doing has been to help town
- goes on to blame other vague unnamed people who have been handling themselves worse

It's not exactly a persuasive argument, Crimson.

[Crimson97]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

I wouldn't say it's towny but I'd advise against dealing in absolutes

Yeah I haven't liked Crimson's defense

It's not flaily per se, just like they're only invested in defending themselves and not solving

Well yeah, it's a defense. What do you think about my points?

So why are you only defending and not doing other stuff

I wanted to adress all the points against me before solving.

[Chemist1422]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

I wouldn't say it's towny but I'd advise against dealing in absolutes

Yeah I haven't liked Crimson's defense

It's not flaily per se, just like they're only invested in defending themselves and not solving

Well yeah, it's a defense. What do you think about my points?

So why are you only defending and not doing other stuff

I wanted to adress all the points against me before solving.

But why

You're trying to not look scummy instead of trying to look townie

[Crimson97]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

Why not?

Viewing from a town perspective who the hell says that as a defense? Zucker literally asked what makes you town and you responded "I never said I was super towny". That's literally what we call a scumclaim

I literally never said in that post that i'm the most townie player here or anything. I said Qva can go look into other people. Zucker's question had nothing to do with what i said.

[Crimson97]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

I wouldn't say it's towny but I'd advise against dealing in absolutes

Yeah I haven't liked Crimson's defense

It's not flaily per se, just like they're only invested in defending themselves and not solving

Well yeah, it's a defense. What do you think about my points?

So why are you only defending and not doing other stuff

I wanted to adress all the points against me before solving.

But why

You're trying to not look scummy instead of trying to look townie

I'm trying to not get mislynched.

[Chemist1422]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

Why not?

Viewing from a town perspective who the hell says that as a defense? Zucker literally asked what makes you town and you responded "I never said I was super towny". That's literally what we call a scumclaim

I literally never said in that post that i'm the most townie player here or anything. I said Qva can go look into other people. Zucker's question had nothing to do with what i said.

And that is what we call deflecting

[Crimson97]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

Why not?

- doesn't mind being voted without good reason
What i meant is that i can see that vote coming from town.
- doesn't push being townie, especially not how what you've been doing has been to help town
I never mentioned anything about being townie in my post yet Zucker tried to turn it into that.
- goes on to blame other vague unnamed people who have been handling themselves worse
I'm giving Qva another option. Do you think there are such people?

It's not exactly a persuasive argument, Crimson.

[Crimson97]

Crimson could you focus on the main arguments instead, that would make things go faster.

I wouldn't mind them voting me because they want to save cupcake if there were like 30 mins until EoD but Qva still had time to go and look at other people to find someone more scummy. I never said anything about me being super townie or anything.

This response can't come from town

Why not?

Viewing from a town perspective who the hell says that as a defense? Zucker literally asked what makes you town and you responded "I never said I was super towny". That's literally what we call a scumclaim

I literally never said in that post that i'm the most townie player here or anything. I said Qva can go look into other people. Zucker's question had nothing to do with what i said.

And that is what we call deflecting

No that's what i call twisting words.

[Crimson97]

And that is what we call deflecting

No that's what i call twisting words.

???????

Zucker tried to steer that conversation into a whole different way.

[Chemist1422]

/vote Crimson

This has not been here and now it deserves to be

And if nothing else you can look at the spike in activity since he got wagoned

[Crimson97]

Also i never said i'm not townie, i said that i never said that i was super townie.

[Crimson97]

What's the vc?

[Crimson97]

One of Chemist and Dash is scum with Zucker

[Crimson97]

I knew this wagon was being led by scum and i am trying to figure out who it is.

[Zucker]

/vote Crimson

This has not been here and now it deserves to be

And if nothing else you can look at the spike in activity since he got wagoned

Still doesn’t put you out of the scum team.
Obviously you can now see your scum buddy has no chance of surviving at this point and so you vote them to gain Town cred.
So question is do I push you or the SK tomorrow. :/

[Rickdaily12]

- doesn't mind being voted without good reason
What i meant is that i can see that vote coming from town.
- doesn't push being townie, especially not how what you've been doing has been to help town
I never mentioned anything about being townie in my post yet Zucker tried to turn it into that.
- goes on to blame other vague unnamed people who have been handling themselves worse
I'm giving Qva another option. Do you think there are such people?

1. Don't you think the reason why he's voting you matters more as to why he isn't voting someone else? If you weren't convinced that there's reason to scum read you, you shouldn't care about him not voting someone else instead of you, you should be chasing him for voting someone he shouldn't be scum reading.

2. That's exactly the problem, though. Instead of constantly affirming that you've not been insisting that you've been acting like Town, this is exactly what you SHOULD be doing.

3. Do you not get that we're asking you who and why instead of you, and you're still not doing this?


p-edit, holy shit

Ok with Chemist's vote I believe Crimson is at L-2, so I'm going to hold off for now.

[Crimson97]

Chemist wasn't even voting me, he was just wating to attack me so his vote seems justified.

[Zucker]

One of Chemist and Dash is scum with Zucker

Oh definitely Chemist. And You.
We will vote you first, then chemist, then the SK Dash then I’ll be miss lynched with a giant smile on my face because I got 3 scum lynched in a row.