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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue May 14, 2019 2:18 pm

Sigh. This is worse than the frog guy from that other game.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Qvapil » Tue May 14, 2019 2:18 pm

ProtoZigg wrote:
Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:Flake is as unreadable as always so just leave off on him

What's our current wagons and most likely lynches??

probably crimson and cupcake gets lynched since people avoiding interactions are more likely to be scum in this gamestate


Your comments about VFM 48 are BS btw
Cupcake played this exact way there as well and he ended up flipping scum so if there was ever a meta read that'd be it


No he didn't. He didn't stand out at all, unlike now.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:24 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Sigh. This is worse than the frog guy from that other game.


I've got some bad news for you buddy...
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:25 pm

When I usually see Phone play FM - the town Phone Ik is very challenging and puts forward great, logical and very tentatively worked through/educated reads. This phone is uninspired. boring. seems to want to distance himself.
Phone0Ix wrote:Poor Crimson. They got called low experience.

Also Flake gets a townread for the best explanation for a read on me ever. And for giving Scum!Me tips lol.

Also Dash did you explain why your tr on me faded?

Also I probs should make a readlist but that needs me to ISO ppl...


Nice buddying with flake here with some wack ass meta comment that you can smell from a mile away being a problem statement.
Crying because losing towncred in the form of dash's TR fading - phone never cares about that stuff as town.
Laziness - classy.

Phone0Ix wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist do you have anything of your own, instead of agreeing with what I'm saying

Same


Funny if wasnt one of their 14 posts (most of them garbo tier meme shit like this way past the phase)
Phone0Ix wrote:Also how did get Dash and Chemist a townread on me from that less posts?


Questioning TR's is personally a massive alarm bell - if you're town this wouldnt phase you as you already know you're town so even at the lowest of levels this shouldnt ever even be a problem in your brain
Questiong towncred is scum

Phone0Ix wrote:
Flake wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:If anything, you're being a hypocrite. If I need to go and be specific about Uzay's meta then how about you show me all the games where tfios was town and had a bad entrance. You didn't do that, did you?

difference between being vague when not asked to explain something which should be obvious and remaining vague once asked to explain something unobvious to anyone but you because either you can't be bothered or you can't actually draw similarities between town!uzay and uzay here which can be observed by anyone, in which case i don't see how you even believe your metaread yourself

as for tfios thing

VFM48 (Town):
tfiosforevah wrote:yo whats up

im gonna hard claim cit bc y not


17F (Town):

"Let me get in on that cit claim action"

now play spot why i'd think tfios' entrance in this game would be NAI at worst

Does Flake do things like this when hes scum? Idk tbh

Feels townie though

yes i do probably

Bon bon Flake passes test, saying a thing he did could come from scum!Flake!

Flake feels townie


"flake feels townie"
sure as a throwaway gesture this wouldnt be a problem but to go on a few posts later and hardtownread this dude from this
you're off your nut Im sorry.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:25 pm

Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:
Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:Flake is as unreadable as always so just leave off on him

What's our current wagons and most likely lynches??

probably crimson and cupcake gets lynched since people avoiding interactions are more likely to be scum in this gamestate


Your comments about VFM 48 are BS btw
Cupcake played this exact way there as well and he ended up flipping scum so if there was ever a meta read that'd be it

you're quoting the wrong person buddy


You're not pro Cupcake?
then who is pro cupcake?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:26 pm

Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:
Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:
Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:Flake is as unreadable as always so just leave off on him

What's our current wagons and most likely lynches??

probably crimson and cupcake gets lynched since people avoiding interactions are more likely to be scum in this gamestate


Your comments about VFM 48 are BS btw
Cupcake played this exact way there as well and he ended up flipping scum so if there was ever a meta read that'd be it

you're quoting the wrong person buddy


You're not pro Cupcake?
then who is pro cupcake?

no?

qva was the one who presented the argument you're arguing against


my bad
you're locktown
stay put
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:28 pm

Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:
Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:
Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:
Flake wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:Flake is as unreadable as always so just leave off on him

What's our current wagons and most likely lynches??

probably crimson and cupcake gets lynched since people avoiding interactions are more likely to be scum in this gamestate


Your comments about VFM 48 are BS btw
Cupcake played this exact way there as well and he ended up flipping scum so if there was ever a meta read that'd be it

you're quoting the wrong person buddy


You're not pro Cupcake?
then who is pro cupcake?

no?

qva was the one who presented the argument you're arguing against


my bad
you're locktown
stay put

you just said i'm unreadable? lol


Man you're right - usually im so consistent with all my reads so it must be real unlike me to do... oh wait
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:30 pm

tria- woops... Protozigg reads

TOWN: Dash2, Flake
NULL: everyone else
SCUMTEAM: Qva, Cupcake, Phone, Goomba <-cus that guy is flipping annoying
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Qvapil » Tue May 14, 2019 2:43 pm

I quickly read through crimson and cupcake's isos. I still think cupcake feels different from our scum game together. Crimson hasn't really done anything. They don't have enough content for me to comfortably read them but I don't want to lynch cupcake rn. I'll place my vote here for lack of better alternatives and I hope I'll wake up early enough tomorrow to maybe switch.
/vote crimson
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:44 pm

/vote cupcake

I disagree
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Rickdaily12 » Tue May 14, 2019 2:46 pm

Spoiler: Okay, so I'm just going to start blatantly by ignoring Zucker x Dash (and by proxy Zucker wanting Flake x Dash) until tomorrow at the earliest. Will add that Zucker's self-meta was also disgusting and I'm not going to agree with Chemist on the read right now, but that's not my concern for today. I easily see worlds where all three are Town here so I'm not going to dive into this.

Qvapil wrote:Thanks for clarifying, but I don't understand how you can read people based on how they view the setup. Town can just not be bothered to think and depend on the stronger players to do the analysis, while scum can try to push their agenda. How would you expect scum to answer you?

I don't. That's not the point of the question. The point of the question was two-pronged.

One, who has the better idea of how to actually handle this game? I didn't, or I least I don't feel that I do, because I think the setup is too complicated to definitively say what the best options for Town are objectively. But two, I asked this question to mindmeld with people and see who seems more trustworthy as a result of the question. Your answer struck me the most, it was the answer that seemed less fakeable and came from more genuinely concerned Town. It wasn't designed to slip Scum (how can it do this?), it was designed to help me PoE by finding more honest Town.

Qvapil wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Sigh... I know I am being extremely frustrating to deal with and I hate it. I just didn't know what else to do save claim my role and just come clean since I am town so I should have nothing to hide. Y'all are gonna hate me when flip town and thus I'm ashamed of myself. -_-


If you're town you should have more to offer than just your role. When you have time could you share your thoughts on some of the players, or make a readslist? Ignore the fact you're being scumread and just talk with us.

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Being defeatist is just frustrating and it's just AtE, not helping at all. And again, neither is the openly admitting that you could be making better posts.

Qvapil wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Anyways I will leave my vote on my strongest scumread for now.
/Vote Cupcake


Goomba and cupcake are not s/s

They're probably not MvM. I don't THINK that they're SvS (due to the wide push so far by everyone to get one of these two killed), but SK being in the game complicates saying lock TvS at worst. They probably do have at least one Town member, though.

Eragon1329 wrote:Could also be teammystic set to female that rick remembers lol

Who?

Dash2 wrote:I'm gonna be real here, a 42 hour total prod time is too much for a game with 48 hours in a day

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Eragon1329 wrote:
Zucker wrote:Scum Reads: at least one scum in Flake, Dash and Chemist.
scumreads

At least one in ____
good job
you just pulled the prospective percentages of pugnacious scum baseline

Normally I'd disagree with you about this, especially because it's Zucker saying it, however his list given is just pure shit. The first person I'd look here at is Chemist, but I still think Chemist just acts as loremaster of meta when Town. I might be being too nice to him, but I don't like Zucker's endless repeat of this.

Flake's Meta Read of Rick wrote:-snip-

I'm not going to self-meta this.

Eragon1329 wrote:Goomba- I used this tell on another player in an NFM, when it was their first game, and just the effort and like, putting the knowledge into it and just trying and making reads and all that
is very very very towny for what would be a level 1 wolf

Could you elaborate more on this? I'm struggling to read Goomba, and this is just lost on me.

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:52 pm

Dash2 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:I quickly read through crimson and cupcake's isos. I still think cupcake feels different from our scum game together. Crimson hasn't really done anything. They don't have enough content for me to comfortably read them but I don't want to lynch cupcake rn. I'll place my vote here for lack of better alternatives and I hope I'll wake up early enough tomorrow to maybe switch.
/vote crimson

Logic = Not enough content > Wolfy content

?????


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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 2:55 pm

Dash2 wrote:Fuck no I'd much rather lynch the guy who has wolfy content over someone who hasn't posted much. That logic is flawed


they say if you start to use your brain
you go mad

thats why I stay so sane
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Tue May 14, 2019 2:57 pm

ejjinami wrote:
Dash2 wrote:ejj wagon cupcake with me :Doge:

sure
/vote cupcake


Cupcake will flip Town so I’ll be ISOing all who vote them. Since I know Dash is scum.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Tue May 14, 2019 2:59 pm

ProtoZigg wrote:Chem is lock town
Qva is lock town


I agree with Qva is Town but Chem isn’t Townie at all IMO.
Though reading your recent posts they seem very scummy.
So your on my Scum list now.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue May 14, 2019 2:59 pm

Why do you think cupcake will flip town?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 3:01 pm

Zucker wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Dash2 wrote:ejj wagon cupcake with me :Doge:

sure
/vote cupcake


Cupcake will flip Town so I’ll be ISOing all who vote them. Since I know Dash is scum.


Shit argument
"this man will flip town and you are all scum haha"
who needs evidence to back up what you're saying
its 2019 people
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 3:02 pm

Zucker wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:Chem is lock town
Qva is lock town


I agree with Qva is Town but Chem isn’t Townie at all IMO.
Though reading your recent posts they seem very scummy.
So your on my Scum list now.


Reasonable.
"reading your recent posts" very nice any you wanna quote and point out or... oh... okay yep
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Tue May 14, 2019 3:02 pm

ProtoZigg wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Proto any chance you're actually going to explain your reads?


no need too
they explain themselves

Cupcake screams scum
Phone screams scum
dont make me waste my time my friend
I know you're town so it shouldnt matter to you right? haha exactly.


I really don’t like this. Your entire ISO Screams Scum.
I also feel as if you and Chemist are both Mafia.
I don’t think I’m wrong about Dash but if I am then Dash just needs to Meta more people TBH and not act so scum readable.

/Vote Proto
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 3:04 pm

Zucker wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Proto any chance you're actually going to explain your reads?


no need too
they explain themselves

Cupcake screams scum
Phone screams scum
dont make me waste my time my friend
I know you're town so it shouldnt matter to you right? haha exactly.


I really don’t like this. Your entire ISO Screams Scum.
I also feel as if you and Chemist are both Mafia.
I don’t think I’m wrong about Dash but if I am then Dash just needs to Meta more people TBH and not act so scum readable.

/Vote Proto


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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Tue May 14, 2019 3:07 pm

ProtoZigg wrote:tria- woops... Protozigg reads

TOWN: Dash2, Flake
NULL: everyone else
SCUMTEAM: Qva, Cupcake, Phone, Goomba <-cus that guy is flipping annoying


I also don’t like how you call Qva scum and as soon as they make you mad you vote them.
In the recent VFM game you also lynched Yellow and Lost Town the game.
If your actually Town stop making horrible choices and vote someone who legit can’t be Town.
Give actual reasoning like I did with Dash.


Here is My Scum Reads BTW: Proto, Chemist and Dash.
Here’s my Possible Scum: Crimson if Dash is Town
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Tue May 14, 2019 3:09 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Why do you think cupcake will flip town?


Because they usually act this bad and end up flipping Town.
When Cupcake is actually Mafia they actually watch what they say and push on people that have the votes on them.
I also would have voted Cupcake myself but what changed my mind is Cupcake’s Recent Scum Game ISO and the fact the lynch seems fake, the lynch doesn’t seem like a scum lynch but rather a miss lynch.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby ProtoZigg » Tue May 14, 2019 3:10 pm

Zucker wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:tria- woops... Protozigg reads

TOWN: Dash2, Flake
NULL: everyone else
SCUMTEAM: Qva, Cupcake, Phone, Goomba <-cus that guy is flipping annoying


I also don’t like how you call Qva scum and as soon as they make you mad you vote them.
In the recent VFM game you also lynched Yellow and Lost Town the game.
If your actually Town stop making horrible choices and vote someone who legit can’t be Town.
Give actual reasoning like I did with Dash.


Here is My Scum Reads BTW: Proto, Chemist and Dash.
Here’s my Possible Scum: Crimson if Dash is Town


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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Tue May 14, 2019 3:13 pm

Mhh, I still feel cupcake will turn out to be scum but your reasoning seems kinda plausible too. Thoughts on crimson?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Zucker » Tue May 14, 2019 3:16 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Mhh, I still feel cupcake will turn out to be scum but your reasoning seems kinda plausible too. Thoughts on crimson?


Honestly I’m down to vote it.
If they flip Mafia, Dash can only be SK/Town.

Because if you look at the conversation between the 2. While nether were against each other I could see it as 1 is Scum and the other is not scum or from different Faction.

/Vote Crimson
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