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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:00 am
by UzayAltay
Dash was thinking Rick is town , it was Why We avoided Dash kill Night 1. Rick Powerread Phone , which was truth . Rick was thinking Dash may be SK at some point of Day 1 , Than I am remembering I read Him PR .Tried to convince Rick but at Last We agreed on Phone , Actually I agreed with Rick's PR read after reading their ISO .
We were Actually SK hunting .
From Day 2 We were Actually thinking as Chem.
I considered You , but was thinking it is Chem until Over Said to us it is You ( he Said it at 2v1 )

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:09 am
by UzayAltay
Qvapil wrote:I thought you'd switch cop and doc n1, or swap doc with vig if you were afraid.

We Actually make A detailed analyze on " How past SK's Played ? "

1) SK : No switch ( W-immune ) ( Day Start)(VFM 22 )
2) SK : No - switch ( not immune , Setup start with 8v3v1 and night start ) ( Open 5 )
3) SK : Cop + vig switch ( V-immune , Open 430 , Night Start )
4) SK : Doc switch ( W - immune , nightstart , open 449 )
5) SK : Vig switch ( W-immune , night start , open 483)
6) SK : No Switch ( W-immune , night start , open 502)
7) SK : Cop switch ( V-immune , night start , open 704)

We realized V-immune SK always turned cop , and thought there is A V-immune SK here .

Also funny fact : Rick thought killing You at one part of Day 1 with thinking You are PR , but prevented it with saying " I am not thinking he is PR , Like even SK is 2 times More likely Than PR "

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:40 am
by ejjinami
Qvapil wrote:Thanks guys I really enjoyed this game.

Same xD

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:41 am
by Transcender
ejjinami wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Thanks guys I really enjoyed this game.

Same xD

so did I.

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:53 am
by ejjinami
UzayAltay wrote:Not much to speak , tfios shoot was bad

IT WASN’T
I still believe shooting tfios was the best choice I could have made.

We were in 6:1, had I not shot or had my shot failed, we’d have ended up in MyLo (5:1=>3:1) instead of LyLo (4:1=>2:1).
I thought that unless my reads were terribly wrong, maf-immune SK wouldn’t have allowed me to shoot and trying to shoot a town-immune SK wouldn’t have been any different from not shooting at all.
The best course of action was to try to shoot a scummy and easily ML-able TOWNIE to make PoE easier. Trying to kill SK would have been bad play.

I re-read chemist’s iso and kind of changed my mind about him being scum.
People seemed to SR him and tfio the most though, so I thought shooting among them should be a good idea.

Now then, fair chances are, if chemist was SK, he would have blocked me. It’s very likely that SK!chem (even if town immune) would have done the math and figured out that letting me shoot (and getting to LyLo instead of MyLo) is a bad idea. He’s just that kind of player
Because of that, successfully shooting another townie should have been a good argument for chem being town.
Aaaaand I hoped town!chem would have been able to defend himself better than town!tfio ):
But the townies didn’t think of analyzing the NKs that way and chem didn’t even try to defend himself seriously…………

Tbh the way he gave up in LyLo was kinda saddening
“We might lose, but I’ve won anyways because seth was wrong”
“I could defend myself with WIFOM, but I won’t do it at all cuz it’s useless”

Wtf ):

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:55 am
by ejjinami
Qvapil wrote:I also didn't expect people to listen to me, both on cfd'ing off tfios and on lynching goomba over chemist D4. I felt I was throwing my chances away after these XD

/pat xD
Heh

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:56 am
by ejjinami
has the maf-chat been released btw???
I didn't see a link anywhere

hey, 0ver
>:3
release it, please

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:56 am
by TheDebil
yeah if chemist put in more effort in defending himself would have 100% pushed on qva
he himself.acknowledged me killing seth to make no sense but didnt put 2 and 2 together so i assumed he was sk trying to get any lynch going

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:57 am
by TheDebil
he was like "yeah lemme do stuff" and did nothing

over was ok host but you really need to do an event log next time
it really.helps us navigate

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 5:58 am
by jucktropy
where the hell is Spreadsheet and shits

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:01 am
by ejjinami
TheDebil wrote:he was like "yeah lemme do stuff" and did nothing

over was ok host but you really need to do an event log next time
it really.helps us navigate

and color the flips! D:<

it's soooo easy to miss them while reading

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:02 am
by ejjinami
thx for hosting though :P

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:12 am
by Chemist1422
Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


If I were town I'd be incredibly mad over goomba and tfios's defences tbh

Oh yeah

Goomba’s defense was kinda pathetic

It was “I’m not SK don’t lynch me” then not posting at all again

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:16 am
by Chemist1422
TheDebil wrote:yeah if chemist put in more effort in defending himself would have 100% pushed on qva
he himself.acknowledged me killing seth to make no sense but didnt put 2 and 2 together so i assumed he was sk trying to get any lynch going

no I was just done

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:19 am
by GrumpyGoomba
Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


If I were town I'd be incredibly mad over goomba and tfios's defences tbh

Oh yeah

Goomba’s defense was kinda pathetic

It was “I’m not SK don’t lynch me” then not posting at all again


Timezones Dx... needed to sleep... sorry

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:20 am
by Chemist1422
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


If I were town I'd be incredibly mad over goomba and tfios's defences tbh

Oh yeah

Goomba’s defense was kinda pathetic

It was “I’m not SK don’t lynch me” then not posting at all again


Timezones Dx... needed to sleep... sorry

There was a full 14 hours between that one post and your lynch

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:21 am
by Chemist1422
Chemist1422 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


If I were town I'd be incredibly mad over goomba and tfios's defences tbh

Oh yeah

Goomba’s defense was kinda pathetic

It was “I’m not SK don’t lynch me” then not posting at all again


Timezones Dx... needed to sleep... sorry

There was a full 14 hours between that one post and your lynch

Wait disregard

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:28 am
by ejjinami
Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


If I were town I'd be incredibly mad over goomba and tfios's defences tbh

Oh yeah

Goomba’s defense was kinda pathetic

It was “I’m not SK don’t lynch me” then not posting at all again

Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:yeah if chemist put in more effort in defending himself would have 100% pushed on qva
he himself.acknowledged me killing seth to make no sense but didnt put 2 and 2 together so i assumed he was sk trying to get any lynch going

no I was just done


I feel it's a bit hypocritical :/
but ok

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:30 am
by Chemist1422
ejjinami wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


If I were town I'd be incredibly mad over goomba and tfios's defences tbh

Oh yeah

Goomba’s defense was kinda pathetic

It was “I’m not SK don’t lynch me” then not posting at all again

Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:yeah if chemist put in more effort in defending himself would have 100% pushed on qva
he himself.acknowledged me killing seth to make no sense but didnt put 2 and 2 together so i assumed he was sk trying to get any lynch going

no I was just done


I feel it's a bit hypocritical :/
but ok

Fair

Whatever

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:42 am
by TheWabbit
i was contemplating being a replacement D1
and saw rick's approach to the setup

boy was i glad he flipped red

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:45 am
by UzayAltay
https://discord.gg/4GAa5x = Maf-chat ( It seems Over forget it )


ejjinami wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Not much to speak , tfios shoot was bad

IT WASN’T
I still believe shooting tfios was the best choice I could have made.

We were in 6:1, had I not shot or had my shot failed, we’d have ended up in MyLo (5:1=>3:1) instead of LyLo (4:1=>2:1).
I thought that unless my reads were terribly wrong, maf-immune SK wouldn’t have allowed me to shoot and trying to shoot a town-immune SK wouldn’t have been any different from not shooting at all.
The best course of action was to try to shoot a scummy and easily ML-able TOWNIE to make PoE easier. Trying to kill SK would have been bad play.

I re-read chemist’s iso and kind of changed my mind about him being scum.
People seemed to SR him and tfio the most though, so I thought shooting among them should be a good idea.

Now then, fair chances are, if chemist was SK, he would have blocked me. It’s very likely that SK!chem (even if town immune) would have done the math and figured out that letting me shoot (and getting to LyLo instead of MyLo) is a bad idea. He’s just that kind of player
Because of that, successfully shooting another townie should have been a good argument for chem being town.
Aaaaand I hoped town!chem would have been able to defend himself better than town!tfio ):
But the townies didn’t think of analyzing the NKs that way and chem didn’t even try to defend himself seriously…………

Tbh the way he gave up in LyLo was kinda saddening
“We might lose, but I’ve won anyways because seth was wrong”
“I could defend myself with WIFOM, but I won’t do it at all cuz it’s useless”

Wtf ):

Tfios was very obvious town .
The All push on tfios was bad , including shooting them .
Not blaming You much for closing PoE , but still it wasnt The way to go .

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:46 am
by Chemist1422
lolSeth

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 7:08 am
by ejjinami
UzayAltay wrote:https://discord.gg/4GAa5x = Maf-chat ( It seems Over forget it )

Tfios was very obvious town .
The All push on tfios was bad , including shooting them .
Not blaming You much for closing PoE , but still it wasnt The way to go .

well, ok, that's fair

and thx for the link :P

Re: VFM 49: €:?,'akhfkskbdvshsorbsg

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 7:13 am
by Seththeking
ejjinami wrote:Nice. Qvap deserved the win imo, he played great

ejjinami wrote:If Qvap is scum, he had won before getting his RC

Heh


Oh yeah, I told Qva that.
If their SK, they deserve their win no matter what.
It’s well deserved.

Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 7:14 am
by Seththeking
ejjinami wrote:I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


If Qva wins another VFM game, I’d be surprised if they don’t get Champion of the Year.