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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:41 pm
by TheDebil
Chemist1422 wrote:also you asked me to vote you unless I misunderstood, so ???

its called bait

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:45 pm
by Chemist1422
I think I responded to your point on qva

All nightkill situations:
Debil SK, kill Chemist
Spoiler: Why: Easy to frame seth and mislynch them, I'd potentially work back around to them if left alive (spoiler: i'd always have voted seth in an F3 with them if for no other reason than that I refuse to lose to SK!Seth)
Why not: Seth would be lost and possibly end up on Debil, Qva could re-evaluate enough to lynch Debil over Seth

Debil SK, kill Qva
Spoiler: Why: Set up a Chemist v Seth TvT 1v1 that ends in an easy win
Why not: WIFOM? They like a challenge? Doesn't make much sense, but neither does Qva not killing Debil? to reference (warning: game is really long): Hydra Game 1, Evan/Wolfy killed me/Jalandh going into F3 after pocketing us

Debil SK, kill Seth
Spoiler: Why/Why not: See the situation where I'm killed, except reverse Seth and me
Chemist SK, kill Debil
Spoiler: Why: Forces a 1v1 with Seth with Qva somewhere in the middle
Why not: Risking losing the 1v1

Chemist SK, kill Qva
Spoiler: Why: Could use Qva's reads as an argument
Why not: Puts me in an F3 with two people who both stated they wanted me dead

Chemist SK, kill Seth
Spoiler: Why: No 1v1 tunneling match to deal with
Why not: Puts me in a disadvantaged situation where I have to go back on a townread

Qva SK, kill Debil
Spoiler: Why: 1v1 tunnel match between Seth/Chemist basically always happens
Why not: "why did you not die" questions?

Qva SK, kill Chemist
Spoiler: Why: Lost seth, debil likely to go after seth?
Why not: Debil/Seth could potentially go after Qva in that scenario

Qva SK, kill Seth
Spoiler: Why: Sets up position where they're the consensus town
Why not: Stops the 1v1 tunneling match

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 3:46 pm
by Chemist1422
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:also you asked me to vote you unless I misunderstood, so ???

its called bait

you cannot call it bait then say I'm scum for pushing on you when I didn't even take it

that's dumb

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 1:36 am
by TheDebil
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:also you asked me to vote you unless I misunderstood, so ???

its called bait

you cannot call it bait then say I'm scum for pushing on you when I didn't even take it

that's dumb

you yourself said you were forcing yourself to not vote on me, dont twist my words. my response was just bait saying "haha bet you wont do it"

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:11 am
by TheDebil
Qvapil wrote:Also has proto/triangular or debil played NK?

i have played detonator, in the all any. dont remember the exact number of the game but yeah

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:21 am
by TheDebil
-to qvas even post-

you do realise many factors come into play when reading someone yes? i dont understsnd how both of you fail to understand that. i clearly said in the very post you quoted that my reads remain different, but on the factor of contribution and danger you are in, you both are equal.
Qvapil wrote:Debil, question for you. Chemist mentioned that he hasn't played NK. Do you think that they'd play like this game their first time?

why not? what is so different about NK that would prevent someone to play well on someone's first time? you pretty much play like town, except you want town to die. youve no real teammates, so you can play more freely.
Qvapil wrote:Same question for me as well.

same answer for you as well.

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:23 am
by TheDebil
qva - anything that would prevent you from being the SK here? honestly, you really are only towny, which holds not much value anymore. seth dying pretty much clears me and frames chemist, but the kill itself could have been done.by either of you.

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:53 am
by TheDebil
yes, i want you two to discuss amongst eachother more so i could come to an unbiased decision but you both refuse to do that and instead push me when im obv town. i dont know how difficult it is.to fucking understand that i would keep seth alive if i were scum but ok one of you is giving the win to the sk and the sk is having a field day here. chemist literally does not mention seth changing his mind in the wifom so he KNOWS that wont happen but still keeps pushing me. why would need a challenge, winning as sk would be enough of a challenge. wifom doesnt.matter when a tunnel.is in progress.

ill.do something later maybe, studing for exams rn so not much time i can dedicate to this.

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:41 am
by TheDebil
sorry i got kinda triggered
should be around in like 2 hours

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:08 pm
by TheDebil
Qvapil wrote:Debil what do you think about my posts about chemist?

recent posts?
the shift from your initial thoughts to these seems a bit sudden for me

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:11 pm
by Chemist1422
Qvapil wrote:What about you chemist? You haven't been here for a while.

Here

I’m watching Detective Pikachu in an hour

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:12 pm
by TheDebil
Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:What about you chemist? You haven't been here for a while.

Here

I’m watching Detective Pikachu in an hour

have fun

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:14 pm
by TheDebil
before you go chemist, any thoughts on qva's recent posts?

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:29 pm
by Chemist1422
TheDebil wrote:before you go chemist, any thoughts on qva's recent posts?

In a non-LyLo scenario I’d call it hedging but it’s NAI here

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:31 pm
by TheDebil
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:before you go chemist, any thoughts on qva's recent posts?

In a non-LyLo scenario I’d call it hedging but it’s NAI here

what exactly is hedging? fance sitting?

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:32 pm
by Chemist1422
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:before you go chemist, any thoughts on qva's recent posts?

In a non-LyLo scenario I’d call it hedging but it’s NAI here

what exactly is hedging? fance sitting?

Ye

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:36 pm
by TheDebil
so we have 2 players
qva who leaves when chemist is there
and
chemist who doesnt respond to qvas posts

wack

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:40 pm
by TheDebil
Qvapil wrote:
TheDebil wrote:so we have 2 players
qva who leaves when chemist is there
and
chemist who doesnt respond to qvas posts

wack


I'll return 3 hours before EOD, else this won't work.

eod for me is 8am so im gonna drop a vote before i snooze

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:42 pm
by TheDebil
Qvapil wrote:How much time do you have before you snooze

roughly 4 or 5 hours

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:46 pm
by TheDebil
Qvapil wrote:Okay it's night time here now so I'll set an alarm in like 3 hours

thats some dedication damn
see you then

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 1:03 pm
by TheDebil
i also had classes planned but fuck literature

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:11 pm
by Chemist1422
Yo, I’m back

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:23 pm
by TheDebil
Chemist1422 wrote:Yo, I’m back

did you enjoy

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:31 pm
by Chemist1422
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Yo, I’m back

did you enjoy

Heck yeah, though there were some pretty cliche parts

Re: VFM 49: Day 4

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 4:34 pm
by TheDebil
Qvapil wrote:Im here and sleepy

i am also here and sleepy