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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:38 pm
by Chemist1422
ejjinami wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:hi ejji

A wagon change is potentially possible if one more person shows up

Do you mind answering my question really quickly?

yeah, I was just doing it...

Idk if I should try to read rick rn...
lynching you is probably out of question because it's unlikely that 3 more people will show up before EoD

actually, do even want to CFD now?
if yes, to who?

meh I don't really want to CFD

My PoE is Rick/tfios/Goomba, so I'm fine with any of these three today

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:47 pm
by ejjinami
Fun fact, besides the interactions with Uzay and Rick "avoiding" talking about the main wagons till EoD D1, the main reason why I think he might be mafia is because of his overreaction to flake's pressure.

I understand that flake's posts might have angered him and I feel shitty for even saying that, but I feel the reaction was still a bit overblown.
Rick is good at faking emotions as scum and I've seen him do it before, so I really doubt it's outside of his scum-range.
And I really don't like the way he SRd Flake and chem afterward. It felt like it was at least partially caused by "anger" and no matter how I think of it, it seems like sth that should come from scum more often than town

and I know that I might not be great in reading him, but him being that aggressive, when angered, when he's usually calm and seems to think about everything multum times before he posts, just feels scummy

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:48 pm
by ejjinami
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:c

well, I'm gonna feel like shit if he flips town........

I might end up feeling like shit regardless because he hasn't posted till now, so it's rather clear that sth happened and he can't defend himself anyway

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:49 pm
by ejjinami
/pat

(don't hate me)

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:50 pm
by ejjinami
Chemist1422 wrote:meh I don't really want to CFD

pffffffft xD

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:52 pm
by Chemist1422
ejjinami wrote:/pat

(don't hate me)

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hugs and positivity all around

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:03 pm
by ejjinami
Chemist1422 wrote:What do you think tfios would be doing as scum here?
What do you think of Goomba's D1 AtE stuff?

1.
I THINK they might have been more likely to post a read-list or PoE instead of just pushing a single player.. maybe sth like when they read cup and crimson? I admit that I'm not very confident in reading them based on that though...
and I still think the part about them being unaware of being the main wagon should be town-indicative.
Previously, my main reason for SRing them were their interactions with cup, but if mafia, I really doubt tfio would have cared this little and I don't think they'd be likely to fake that...

2.
In short, it isn't scummy enough. I think I need to look through their iso again to explain it though, give me a few minutes.
Btw, have you played with them before? can you tell me if they act like that normally?

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:04 pm
by ejjinami
Chemist1422 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:/pat

(don't hate me)

Image

hugs and positivity all around

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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:08 pm
by Chemist1422
ejjinami wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:What do you think tfios would be doing as scum here?
What do you think of Goomba's D1 AtE stuff?

1.
I THINK they might have been more likely to post a read-list or PoE instead of just pushing a single player.. maybe sth like when they read cup and crimson? I admit that I'm not very confident in reading them based on that though...
and I still think the part about them being unaware of being the main wagon should be town-indicative.
Previously, my main reason for SRing them were their interactions with cup, but if mafia, I really doubt tfio would have cared this little and I don't think they'd be likely to fake that...

2.
In short, it isn't scummy enough. I think I need to look through their iso again to explain it though, give me a few minutes.
Btw, have you played with them before? can you tell me if they act like that normally?

1. Fair, think their reaction tomorrow should be telling if that's what you believe
2. iirc Goomba is new, and as for the first part, I haven't seen much content from them that isn't arguing with Seth so I'm not clearing them.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:09 pm
by Chemist1422


generally hyping music

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:28 pm
by Seththeking
ejjinami wrote:
Seththeking wrote:/Vote Rick

Whatever IDRC TBH.
If this is Town Shoot Chemist.
Tfios is Town here.


Let's be frank. IF you genuinely want to convince me to shoot anyone, make a real case and don't ignore people when they try to discuss it with you. That's my absolute bottom line for taking the other person seriously. You being right or wrong here doesn't even matter.
I'm sorry for being rude, but I'm not the type to waste time talking to someone who doesn't even see me as their equal.
reconsider your behavior, don't ignore others when they're clearly putting effort into talking with you and maybe then we can talk

next


If you shoot either Tfios or Chemist. The other remaining one is the last scum.
Like it’s Tfios/Chemist.
So shooting one of them is good just say who your shooting so if their still alive we push them.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:30 pm
by ejjinami
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Thank you Uzay very cool.

Also we have 3 bloody cit claims already why yall do this...

Lamist
GrumpyGoomba wrote: Spoiler:
Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:reasoning being because entry was wolfy

tfios entries are always similarly wolfy

nai

That's not gonna change my view
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

can you be a bit more specific

No

I am most definitely not liking this response. My eyes are on you dash.
GrumpyGoomba wrote:I have finally skimmed through the happenings of yesterday given my abysmal net rn. It seems like I have made some bad plays and in turn have ended up getting scumread by a majority of the active people in here.

To answer some of the matters addressed about me,
My response on dash replying with a simple no to flake's call for elaboration was not meant as a push at all but a reaction test to see how she would respond. And it seems to have spectacularly backfired on me.
[snip
]
The reaction test isn’t scummy imo. It looking “fake” could come from them simply misunderstanding the definition of a “push”.
(meaning, they said it was a reaction test, just simply because “they didn’t want to lynch dash for that 1 response and wanted to see their reaction to pressure”… which basically means that they were pushing him, lol)

In other words, I think it’s NAI


GrumpyGoomba wrote: [snip] My confession of not having done much wasn't worded right. I meant to say I haven't done as much as I would've liked to have done. I guess I can't use my train trip as an excuse since that would count as angleshooting and I do not intend on doing so as well. [snip]

Ok, this one is scummy as well
GrumpyGoomba wrote: [snip] Since I am already getting scumread I guess there goes my idea of claiming a pr to waste the mafia/sk night kill on me down the drain...

I will now go iso dive and have some reads ready shortly. Any questions are welcome.

And honestly, I don’t know what to think of this one
Prob depends on where they got the idea from and what experience they have with fake-claiming…
I can see it going either way tbh

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Sigh... I know I am being extremely frustrating to deal with and I hate it. I just didn't know what else to do save claim my role and just come clean since I am town so I should have nothing to hide. Y'all are gonna hate me when flip town and thus I'm ashamed of myself. -_-

Well, I admit that my reasoning here might be bad, but I personally haven’t seen scum try to “act lamist” and “criticize themselves” at the same time…

Simply: they were either INTENTIONALLY trying to manipulate everyone that way
Or it was sincere

Fuck, I know I wrote it in a bad way, I don’t actually know how to explain that and it doesn't give me a strong read anyway
And there isn’t much time left.... I can't quote anything more




I still think the way they reacted to Dash and Zuck (the way they criticized them while still being absolutely unhelpful) should be town indicative. (natural/sincere/w/e you want to call it)
that's prob it for me though :/

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:30 pm
by Chemist1422
Seththeking wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Seththeking wrote:/Vote Rick

Whatever IDRC TBH.
If this is Town Shoot Chemist.
Tfios is Town here.


Let's be frank. IF you genuinely want to convince me to shoot anyone, make a real case and don't ignore people when they try to discuss it with you. That's my absolute bottom line for taking the other person seriously. You being right or wrong here doesn't even matter.
I'm sorry for being rude, but I'm not the type to waste time talking to someone who doesn't even see me as their equal.
reconsider your behavior, don't ignore others when they're clearly putting effort into talking with you and maybe then we can talk

next


If you shoot either Tfios or Chemist. The other remaining one is the last scum.
Like it’s Tfios/Chemist.
So shooting one of them is good just say who your shooting so if their still alive we push them.

See this

Don't do this

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:32 pm
by Seththeking
ejjinami wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Thank you Uzay very cool.

Also we have 3 bloody cit claims already why yall do this...

Lamist
GrumpyGoomba wrote: Spoiler:
Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:reasoning being because entry was wolfy

tfios entries are always similarly wolfy

nai

That's not gonna change my view
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

can you be a bit more specific

No

I am most definitely not liking this response. My eyes are on you dash.
GrumpyGoomba wrote:I have finally skimmed through the happenings of yesterday given my abysmal net rn. It seems like I have made some bad plays and in turn have ended up getting scumread by a majority of the active people in here.

To answer some of the matters addressed about me,
My response on dash replying with a simple no to flake's call for elaboration was not meant as a push at all but a reaction test to see how she would respond. And it seems to have spectacularly backfired on me.
[snip
]
The reaction test isn’t scummy imo. It looking “fake” could come from them simply misunderstanding the definition of a “push”.
(meaning, they said it was a reaction test, just simply because “they didn’t want to lynch dash for that 1 response and wanted to see their reaction to pressure”… which basically means that they were pushing him, lol)

In other words, I think it’s NAI


GrumpyGoomba wrote: [snip] My confession of not having done much wasn't worded right. I meant to say I haven't done as much as I would've liked to have done. I guess I can't use my train trip as an excuse since that would count as angleshooting and I do not intend on doing so as well. [snip]

Ok, this one is scummy as well
GrumpyGoomba wrote: [snip] Since I am already getting scumread I guess there goes my idea of claiming a pr to waste the mafia/sk night kill on me down the drain...

I will now go iso dive and have some reads ready shortly. Any questions are welcome.

And honestly, I don’t know what to think of this one
Prob depends on where they got the idea from and what experience they have with fake-claiming…
I can see it going either way tbh

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Sigh... I know I am being extremely frustrating to deal with and I hate it. I just didn't know what else to do save claim my role and just come clean since I am town so I should have nothing to hide. Y'all are gonna hate me when flip town and thus I'm ashamed of myself. -_-

Well, I admit that my reasoning here might be bad, but I personally haven’t seen scum try to “act lamist” and “criticize themselves” at the same time…

Simply: they were either INTENTIONALLY trying to manipulate everyone that way
Or it was sincere

Fuck, I know I wrote it in a bad way, I don’t actually know how to explain that and it doesn't give me a strong read anyway
And there isn’t much time left.... I can't quote anything more




I still think the way they reacted to Dash and Zuck (the way they criticized them while still being absolutely unhelpful) should be town indicative. (natural/sincere/w/e you want to call it)
that's prob it for me though :/


Do Chemist next please.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:34 pm
by Seththeking
Chemist1422 wrote:
Seththeking wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Seththeking wrote:/Vote Rick

Whatever IDRC TBH.
If this is Town Shoot Chemist.
Tfios is Town here.


Let's be frank. IF you genuinely want to convince me to shoot anyone, make a real case and don't ignore people when they try to discuss it with you. That's my absolute bottom line for taking the other person seriously. You being right or wrong here doesn't even matter.
I'm sorry for being rude, but I'm not the type to waste time talking to someone who doesn't even see me as their equal.
reconsider your behavior, don't ignore others when they're clearly putting effort into talking with you and maybe then we can talk

next


If you shoot either Tfios or Chemist. The other remaining one is the last scum.
Like it’s Tfios/Chemist.
So shooting one of them is good just say who your shooting so if their still alive we push them.

See this

Don't do this


Um Chemist.
You do realize not doing that gives SK the win.
If SK chose Vigilante Immunity.
So by claiming who they Shoot, is like Sheriff.
You checked them, their Immune, Their SK.
By no means should Town just said what you said Chemist.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:35 pm
by ejjinami
Seththeking wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Seththeking wrote:/Vote Rick

Whatever IDRC TBH.
If this is Town Shoot Chemist.
Tfios is Town here.


Let's be frank. IF you genuinely want to convince me to shoot anyone, make a real case and don't ignore people when they try to discuss it with you. That's my absolute bottom line for taking the other person seriously. You being right or wrong here doesn't even matter.
I'm sorry for being rude, but I'm not the type to waste time talking to someone who doesn't even see me as their equal.
reconsider your behavior, don't ignore others when they're clearly putting effort into talking with you and maybe then we can talk

next


If you shoot either Tfios or Chemist. The other remaining one is the last scum.
Like it’s Tfios/Chemist.
So shooting one of them is good just say who your shooting so if their still alive we push them.

you know, I don't want to be an ass, but have you actually responded to chemist's arguments?
I mean, nicely?
have you talked with him like a human and explained why his arguments are bad instead of just repeating yours over and over again?

I wrote a "wall" in response to your posts as well and asked you to talk to me, but I'm not even sure if you bothered reading it.

anyway, I'm serious about what I wrote before. So sorry. I hope you don't take it personally

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 1:12 am
by 0verki11
Rickdaily 12 has been lynched
They were Mafia Doc Switch
24 hours from now to send in night actions if you have one

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 1:14 am
by 0verki11
0verki11 wrote:
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 3:25 am
by 0verki11
Tfoisforevah has been killed they were Citizen
Ejjinami has been killed they were Vigilante
48 hours glgl

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 3:33 am
by TheDebil
ok we got 2 lynches here

me
chemist
qva
seth
grumpy are alive

each of us lets name 2 people who you think are the scummiest to you

im gonna say
1. grumpy
2. chemist

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 3:38 am
by TheDebil
also ejji even tho rick might be a friend to you you shouldnt ever shy away from reading him or pushing him. especially him since is a dangerous player
hes not gonna think you are a bad person or anything its just a game and if he does that's a dick move

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:41 am
by GrumpyGoomba
For me it's chemist and debil.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:49 am
by Qvapil
1. Goomba
2. Debil

I'm pretty sure it's goomba tbh. They've been coasting all game and had some questionable posts.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:53 am
by Qvapil
TheDebil wrote:this time no long reads since ive mostly skimmed

[qvapil]
[goomba, chemist]
[tfios]
[rick]

rick is probably the highest scumread still, his overall tone early feels pandering and his stance on cupcake vs crimson d1 felt mafia like. other posts and reads dont really change my opinion. i think has decent chance to flip either of the scum allignments

chemist overall kinda weak too, his defense on seth feels towny but it might just be pure frustration because seth is a clown sometimes (sorry not sorry, drop that shit) . purpose slip or whatever that was supposed to be feels NAI, something i would do as town to try and clear myself. i dont really think scum would pull that but who the hell knows sometimes

seth is still seth, if the vig claim was cleared my read on him stays as pretty much locked town

qvapils other posts seem to be fine, gamesolvy and as other said, pure. not really scumreading this slot from the skim whatsoever but this still has potential to be scum, most likely sk tho

goomba's early vote on cupcake i liked, asctualy has a reason unlike cupcakes vote on uzay, which was simply a memevote, so i dont think a bus happened there. still a chance to be sk, moreso than qva since i think goomba is overall slightly more scummier

tfios probably my other candidate for a vote today, other than rick here. iso is mostly garbage, but i like her tone in defense , and push on rick, but otherwise this needs to die imo



TheDebil wrote:qva and grumpy still exist seth



Debil you were on the fence about chemist yesterday, and you thought me/goomba were likely SK candidates. Why do you think it could be chemist over me?

I'm kinda paranoid you're trying to use the fact that seth will always vote chemist.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:56 am
by Qvapil
@chemist and seth, have you played with debil before? Could you give some insight on their meta?