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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:55 pm
by Seththeking
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Tfios is always low-impact

Cupcake is new

Uzay posted 143 times

So I’m not sure where you’re going with this

Night Kills hitting Town so far are Dash, Flake, Eragon, and Phone. Two of the flips are PRs, and the other two were considered to be fairly strong citizens. No cross-kills. Assuming the Vig didn't shoot any of these, I'm not sure if Uzay would be enough as the solo kingpin of the Mafia to pull off all of this.

I guess I should just start ISOing him though, I guess.


Could also be SK that killed Uzay.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:58 pm
by Chemist1422
Seththeking wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Tfios is always low-impact

Cupcake is new

Uzay posted 143 times

So I’m not sure where you’re going with this


Cupcake isn’t new.
They’ve been around before you.
I remember them playing TG a Year Ago.

This is their second game of FM but okay

I'm working on my readslist with explanations now

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:59 pm
by Rickdaily12
Seththeking wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Tfios is always low-impact

Cupcake is new

Uzay posted 143 times

So I’m not sure where you’re going with this

Night Kills hitting Town so far are Dash, Flake, Eragon, and Phone. Two of the flips are PRs, and the other two were considered to be fairly strong citizens. No cross-kills. Assuming the Vig didn't shoot any of these, I'm not sure if Uzay would be enough as the solo kingpin of the Mafia to pull off all of this.

I guess I should just start ISOing him though, I guess.


Could also be SK that killed Uzay.

On a phone so can't really stay but
Probably not

I can't see the Vig shooting Flake over Uzay if that was the conflict that got their attention.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:01 pm
by Seththeking
Chemist1422 wrote:
Seththeking wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Tfios is always low-impact

Cupcake is new

Uzay posted 143 times

So I’m not sure where you’re going with this


Cupcake isn’t new.
They’ve been around before you.
I remember them playing TG a Year Ago.

This is their second game of FM but okay

I'm working on my readslist with explanations now


viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81517

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:01 pm
by Chemist1422
TG is not FM for this situation

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:12 pm
by 0verki11
ejjinami wrote:@0verki11, is MoustachioMario still a backup? It’s a question of utmost importance.

Yes.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:19 pm
by 0verki11
Current Vote Count
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  # Votes Until Majority

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:24 pm
by Chemist1422
{Chemist}

Chemist - Shouldn't be too hard to understand why I have this read

{Qva, Seth, Debil}

Qva - I've liked their tone so far this game, feels solidly different to VFM48
Seth - The slot's relentless tunneling is in their town meta+think scum would be more cautious
Debil - Their giant readswall and full catchup felt highly town motivated and I doubt scum in this situation would find WIM for it

{Rick, Ejji}

Both null with ejji being above Rick probably, Rick feels like he's not really re-evalutating while pushing while ejji doesn't have anything I can point at and say "this is a town slot" unless I'm forgetting something like a dumb

{Goomba, tfios}

Goomba - Their AtE D1 was bad and they haven't been contributing much lately
Tfios - Their cupcake/Crimson post still pings weird and they aren't doing stuff
{}

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:40 pm
by ejjinami
You know what, screw it, my plan doesn’t work after all… and I might not have a lot of time later, so while I’m confident in being able not to get lynched today, I don’t know if I’ll be able to deal with a CC form a townie player if we end up in LyLo tomorrow.

I hardclaim vig.

I didn’t shoot N1 both because I remember dash asking not to and (mainly) because I didn’t have a lot of time and didn’t manage to sort my reads or even think of shooting before the day started. -_-
N2 I shot Uzay.

Keep Seth away from me

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:43 pm
by Chemist1422
Swaggin

That takes you solidly out of the PoE

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:44 pm
by tfiosforevah
Still sticking to my vanilla hardclaim, even though I passed it off as a joke in the beginning it was actually true (somehow for like the 5th time in a row)

I do feel as if Seth is sticking to his town meta, so I’m not suspecting him at the moment

My main scum reads at this moment are chemist and Rick

On mobile so I can’t pull a quote wall but will explain myself with in a couple hours once I get my laptop back

/vote rick

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:47 pm
by ejjinami
Qvapil wrote:Ejji I why don't you think goomba is the SK? I agree that they're probably not mafia due to their D1 vote but during D2 they were following the thread but not really saying anything. Like, they were there but kinda not there? I can't explain it very well, but I think it's something I'd do as SK. Goomba could you give us some quick reads? Not anything as deep as your D1 post, just some thoughts on who you think could be the last mafia or the SK.

Honestly, they were “there” but “not there” for the entirety of D1 as well, lol. I don’t know how they play normally, but I THINK it might be normal for them.
It’s not like they’re afraid to share their own opinion and they obviously weren’t afraid to interact and heavily criticize 2 “obv” townies (D1-dash, d3-seth), so I think they shouldn’t be SRd for their tone.
I mean, if they aren’t afraid to interact naturally, nothing should stop them from giving reads and SRing people as scum.

The reason I TR them is precisely because of their interactions with dash.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=99445&p=3173694#p3173694
This ^ is prob my whole read on them. It might look undependable, but I trust it a lot.

Qvapil wrote: Somewhere during D2 Flake was discussing the night kills and said he found it weird he were still alive, then you answered him that you thought Dash should have been a higher priority target compared to phone and eragon. Though I agree with you on that point, is it too deep in the realms of science fiction to assume that you were scum signalling to the other evil faction? To like, coordinate a Dash kill? Or am I too tired.

you’re too tired, lol.
Scum can’t signal to each other, because they don’t know each others’ identities
And they obviously wouldn’t want the other party to know.
Besides, if they wanted to signal D2, the best choice should have been to use Cupcake, since he was outed anyway. So no, they 100% didn’t coordinate and no, I didn’t coordinate with anyone either.

Qvapil wrote: One last thing, I don't think proto/debil is mafia. I pointed this post out yesterday:

Qvapil wrote:
ProtoZigg wrote:/vote cupcake

I disagree


This vote was just after I voted crimson, and I was the first vote there. I think it's unlikely proto is cupcake's buddy here

The timing of the vote is weird for them to be buddies. Proto directly opposed a starting crimson wagon to vote cupcake, and he was townreading me before that point.

I THINK I agree here… the vote means nothing, but the timing and the strength of it was weird
Rn the ones with the most mafia equity are 1. Tfios and 2. ….probably rick :/
But I genuinely believe it should just be tfios

As for SK, actually, idfk…
Qvapil wrote:
Anyway I think chemist is definetely not SK, they could be maf if tfios is town but I haven't read them carefully yet.

Why is chem not SK?
Besides the thing about them not forgetting about Dash’s slip as scum, I think they have quite a bit of SK equity.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:49 pm
by ejjinami
Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:oh

Why did no one tell me my math was wrong this entire time

1. it wasn't

and 2. qvap, I saw you mentioning my name in the wall, so I jsut wanted to say that I'll answer later

really gtg


Alright ejj good luck at your exams

Thx :3

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:51 pm
by ejjinami
(bump, so that I can ctrl+F it in my iso easily)

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=99445&start=1775#p3174433
gonna read debil’s wall tomorrow
sry, it’s nearly 3AM, so I’m not really in the mood for doing that now

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:51 pm
by ejjinami
The read on MM is brilliant though. xD

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:53 pm
by ejjinami
Seththeking wrote:Ejji is the best lynch today IMO. They can explain allot with the lynch and it’s very obvious they are not Vigilante.

whoops


I'm tempted to put some kind of gif here
like, a cat that's wagging its butt in front of the screen or sth like that
but that would probably be rude
...and I don't even have a gif like that

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:55 pm
by ejjinami
Unrelated to the game, I think chemist’s patience is amazing.
I’m already close to ignoring seth again, even though I haven’t even interacted with him much.


P.Edit:
sorry seth, it's not personal. I just can't deal with your playstyle
and you not answering questions and ignoring all counterarguments is way more irritating than I thought it'd be

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:57 pm
by Chemist1422
Thank you, I'm making as much of an effort as possible

Ejji, did you read my readslist? Do you disagree on any but yourself?

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:57 pm
by ejjinami
Rickdaily12 wrote: If Vig announces who they shoot tonight, and they live, we know that an SK with town immunity got hit last night.

nope, I won’t know if I got blocked by SK with maf-immunity (and hit a random player), or if I just hit them and they were town immune

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:04 pm
by ejjinami
Chemist1422 wrote:Thank you, I'm making as much of an effort as possible

Ejji, did you read my readslist? Do you disagree on any but yourself?

just skipped through it
honestly, I don't think grumpy is that scummy
and I don't know Debil's meta, but I wouldn't put them that high unless I confident that they 100% wouldn't be able to write a wall just after replacing in as scum.

can you elaborate on those 2?

Re: VFM 49: Day 1

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:06 pm
by Chemist1422
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Sigh... I know I am being extremely frustrating to deal with and I hate it. I just didn't know what else to do save claim my role and just come clean since I am town so I should have nothing to hide. Y'all are gonna hate me when flip town and thus I'm ashamed of myself. -_-

Re: VFM 49: Day 1

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:09 pm
by Chemist1422
GrumpyGoomba wrote:I have finally skimmed through the happenings of yesterday given my abysmal net rn. It seems like I have made some bad plays and in turn have ended up getting scumread by a majority of the active people in here.

To answer some of the matters addressed about me,
My response on dash replying with a simple no to flake's call for elaboration was not meant as a push at all but a reaction test to see how she would respond. And it seems to have spectacularly backfired on me.

My confession of not having done much wasn't worded right. I meant to say I haven't done as much as I would've liked to have done. I guess I can't use my train trip as an excuse since that would count as angleshooting and I do not intend on doing so as well.

Since I am already getting scumread I guess there goes my idea of claiming a pr to waste the mafia/sk night kill on me down the drain...

I will now go iso dive and have some reads ready shortly. Any questions are welcome.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:21 pm
by Seththeking
/Vote GrumpyGoomba

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:32 pm
by GrumpyGoomba
Right now my current reads are these :-
{Me, ejji}
{Rick,Qva}
{Seth}
{Tfios ,chemist ,debil}

Tfios I am fairly certain is the last mafia. And I believe the SK is between Chemist and Debil.

I just can't read seth for what it's worth. His behavior as zucker for the majority of the game is just unreadable, but that isn't enough to clear them off as a possible SK.

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:32 pm
by GrumpyGoomba
/Vote Tfios