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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:26 am
by Chemist1422
Alright I have stuff to catch up on in class but would like to remind you that calling the vig shot is a terrible idea because the SK can flip them if they survive

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:27 am
by Qvapil
Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:Honestly, my biggest scum read is Rick

He’s being a whole lot less influential than he’s been in his other games as town

I looked through his iso and his interactions with uzay seemed pretty suspicious like there was a mafia chat going on

I really want to pull iso quotes right now to show what I’m talking about but it’s hard on mobile


Will you have time to put in some effort and explain your rick read a bit before EOD? Because you're not really convincing rn and it's highly possible you'll be lynched. If you're town, that will put us in a real tough spot. I'd say a townie at your spot would be a bit more concerned.

Don’t think this applies unless tfios is exactly mafia/SK that gave up


I know but if it's just tfios not engaging with the game as they usually do we're doomed. We can't afford to mislynch at this point.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:29 am
by Qvapil
Tfios I hope you understand the tight spot we're at now. If you're town you should be trying to save yourself at all costs here.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:30 am
by Chemist1422
Chemist

Ejji

Qva
Seth

Debil

Rick
Goomba
Tfios

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:30 am
by Seththeking
Chemist1422 wrote:Alright I have stuff to catch up on in class but would like to remind you that calling the vig shot is a terrible idea because the SK can flip them if they survive


Ey Ejji.
This is Chemist softing SK that didn’t choose Vigilante Shoot.
Nows your chance to shoot them!

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:31 am
by Chemist1422
Seththeking wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Alright I have stuff to catch up on in class but would like to remind you that calling the vig shot is a terrible idea because the SK can flip them if they survive


Ey Ejji.
This is Chemist softing SK that didn’t choose Vigilante Shoot.
Nows your chance to shoot them!

I think you misunderstood my post

If Ejji says they’re shooting someone and that person is the SK, they’ll just flip so they don’t get shot

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:32 pm
by TheDebil
question
was zucker claiming vigi solved later on

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:33 pm
by Qvapil
TheDebil wrote:question
was zucker claiming vigi solved later on


What do you mean by solved?

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:34 pm
by Qvapil
Ejji is our vig, zucker wasn't serious then I think

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:34 pm
by Chemist1422
TheDebil wrote:question
was zucker claiming vigi solved later on

He was actually not claiming vigi and we were just not big brain enough to realize that

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:50 pm
by TheDebil
ok question to seth
how do you cope with being wrong when you deathtunnel someone
ive done it before and it hurts

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:52 pm
by Chemist1422
TheDebil wrote:ok question to seth
how do you cope with being wrong when you deathtunnel someone
ive done it before and it hurts

from what I've seen he either deathtunnels someone else or calls them bad

Re: VFM 49: Day 2

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:54 pm
by Qvapil
This is rick talking about flake and chemist's exchange on SOD2.

Rickdaily12 wrote:
-Huge snip-

Everyone this game so far has literally spent the entire time talking about how this person or that person derped themselves into being called lock town so far. If I were Mafia in this game and I saw everyone narrowing down their PoE lists because of it, then yeah, I can see myself trying to fabricate something like this, and I can totally see other people doing it as Mafia too. This kind of scum theater would also serve a hell of a lot of purpose under the circumstances too. I don't see it going exactly the way you quoted it in the above (not unless you're the biggest troll literally ever and this is exactly how it went), but I can see it getting suggested no problem at all.

Flake, seriously, like how exactly do you plan on expecting us to believe that you wouldn't pull this off as scum because you don't have the skill for it?



This is rick neglecting that SK can switch the vig off.

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Seth if you're sure on both mafia and SK, isn't it more beneficial to lynch the SK and shoot the maf at night? Though I don't think it matters so much.

Not when you're trying to target lynch. If Vig announces who they shoot tonight, and they live, we know that an SK with town immunity got hit last night.

This is why we should really give zero shits about which scum we lynch today and yet another reason why Vig should be claiming today.



Do you guys think Rick would fake this just as he described on his former post? Out of frustration of everyone slipping? Or is it too obvious because he talked about it on D2? Or am I reaching too far and am too paranoid

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:09 pm
by TheDebil
this time no long reads since ive mostly skimmed
[seth, MustachioMario]
[qvapil]
[goomba, chemist]
[tfios]
[rick]

rick is probably the highest scumread still, his overall tone early feels pandering and his stance on cupcake vs crimson d1 felt mafia like. other posts and reads dont really change my opinion. i think has decent chance to flip either of the scum allignments

chemist overall kinda weak too, his defense on seth feels towny but it might just be pure frustration because seth is a clown sometimes (sorry not sorry, drop that shit) . purpose slip or whatever that was supposed to be feels NAI, something i would do as town to try and clear myself. i dont really think scum would pull that but who the hell knows sometimes

seth is still seth, if the vig claim was cleared my read on him stays as pretty much locked town

qvapils other posts seem to be fine, gamesolvy and as other said, pure. not really scumreading this slot from the skim whatsoever but this still has potential to be scum, most likely sk tho

goomba's early vote on cupcake i liked, asctualy has a reason unlike cupcakes vote on uzay, which was simply a memevote, so i dont think a bus happened there. still a chance to be sk, moreso than qva since i think goomba is overall slightly more scummier

tfios probably my other candidate for a vote today, other than rick here. iso is mostly garbage, but i like her tone in defense , and push on rick, but otherwise this needs to die imo

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:16 pm
by TheDebil
-to qva

rick actually brings a fair point in the first half, chemist may have had dishonest intentions there. its a good catch. id have to argue that its high risk and i do not know if scum would pull that though. its a pretty bad choice to do a slip like that as well.
second half is just odd, i dont like it. slip or not the post just screams sk to me. that and him wondering who town will be focusing on for the kills early d1.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:54 pm
by Seththeking
I just realized that Tfios may actually get lynched today.
So time to make a solid case on why Chemist is SK/Scum.

Other then that obvious SK Soft Claim that Chemist didn’t even realize he did I have some more points that may convince you all to trust in me.

First off, if you look back at Day 1, he appears to be Puppeting Dash.
As if he is purposely trying to gain Town appeal.

Secondly, Chemists vote on Crimson seemed like he was trying to push that because it was the top Wagon and not because he actually wanted to. It was more of a fake vote and correctly me if I’m wrong but before that Chemist thought Crimson was Town.

There is probably more but for my last point I’m going to make is that if you look at Last VFM Game with Qva and Chemist and look at this one. It seems reversed.
Like this team Chemist is Scum and Qva is Town.
Like actually Look at Chemist’s Interactions with Qva and you’ll know what I mean.


Like if your still not convinced and not vote Chemist I could try and find more but I’m very convinced Chemist never flip Town here.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:56 pm
by Chemist1422
1. It's not an SK soft at all, I refuted it and you called me flailing
2. Not puppeting, Dash and I agreed on a lot of reads.
3. If I was SK why would I need to vote Crimson? I wasn't a lynch target and he was almost definitely dying anyway.

If you have more, please go on. If not, back off.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:58 pm
by Seththeking
It’s very possible the Rick is Mafia and Chemist is the SK.

So I’m not letting Tfios get miss lynched today.

/Vote Rick

We need Qva and Debil to vote Rick.

When Rick Flips Scum, Ejji can freely Shoot Chemist because even if Chemist is Town, Town doesn’t auto lose.
If Rick somehow Flips Town then Ejji shouldn’t shoot.

I doubt Chemist has the balls to vote Rick because their SK.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:59 pm
by Seththeking
Chemist1422 wrote:1. It's not an SK soft at all, I refuted it and you called me flailing
2. Not puppeting, Dash and I agreed on a lot of reads.
3. If I was SK why would I need to vote Crimson? I wasn't a lynch target and he was almost definitely dying anyway.

If you have more, please go on. If not, back off.



Oh don’t worry, I’ll find more later today or tomorrow assume we actually lynch Rick.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:03 pm
by Chemist1422
There's three problems with that post

1. You're pandering again
2. You said something that you called me scum for saying
3. You're being rude

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:25 pm
by TheDebil
/vote rick
i'm fine with this, would prefer a shot on tfios though.
it would solve more imo

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:30 pm
by Seththeking
TheDebil wrote:/vote rick
i'm fine with this, would prefer a shot on tfios though.
it would solve more imo


Ah yes your right it’s best to shoot Tfios.
Just in case I read that wrong and he did pick Vigilante Immunity, it’s better to get rid of Tfios so he has to result in trying to miss lynch someone else that will get him killed.
Also good because Vigilante will die tonight.
If they shoot Tfios they are good.

@Ejji
Make sure to shoot Tfios today.
If you mess this up we lose!

Shoot Tfios and if Tfios is still alive tomorrow then ashamed to say Chemist is right.
But chances are Tfios will die as Citizen, Chemist will kill Ejji and start accusing Debil as SK.

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:31 pm
by Chemist1422
Bold of you to assume if tfios and Rick doesn’t have the SK I won’t call you it

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:31 pm
by TheDebil
qva and grumpy still exist seth

Re: VFM 49: Day 3

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:32 pm
by Chemist1422
It’s probably not an incorrect assumption but it’ll be between you and Goomba for me