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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 20, 2019 6:57 pm

Thank you, I'm making as much of an effort as possible

Ejji, did you read my readslist? Do you disagree on any but yourself?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 20, 2019 6:57 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote: If Vig announces who they shoot tonight, and they live, we know that an SK with town immunity got hit last night.

nope, I won’t know if I got blocked by SK with maf-immunity (and hit a random player), or if I just hit them and they were town immune


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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 20, 2019 7:04 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:Thank you, I'm making as much of an effort as possible

Ejji, did you read my readslist? Do you disagree on any but yourself?

just skipped through it
honestly, I don't think grumpy is that scummy
and I don't know Debil's meta, but I wouldn't put them that high unless I confident that they 100% wouldn't be able to write a wall just after replacing in as scum.

can you elaborate on those 2?


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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 20, 2019 7:06 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Sigh... I know I am being extremely frustrating to deal with and I hate it. I just didn't know what else to do save claim my role and just come clean since I am town so I should have nothing to hide. Y'all are gonna hate me when flip town and thus I'm ashamed of myself. -_-
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 20, 2019 7:09 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:I have finally skimmed through the happenings of yesterday given my abysmal net rn. It seems like I have made some bad plays and in turn have ended up getting scumread by a majority of the active people in here.

To answer some of the matters addressed about me,
My response on dash replying with a simple no to flake's call for elaboration was not meant as a push at all but a reaction test to see how she would respond. And it seems to have spectacularly backfired on me.

My confession of not having done much wasn't worded right. I meant to say I haven't done as much as I would've liked to have done. I guess I can't use my train trip as an excuse since that would count as angleshooting and I do not intend on doing so as well.

Since I am already getting scumread I guess there goes my idea of claiming a pr to waste the mafia/sk night kill on me down the drain...

I will now go iso dive and have some reads ready shortly. Any questions are welcome.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Seththeking » Mon May 20, 2019 7:21 pm

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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 20, 2019 9:32 pm

Right now my current reads are these :-
{Me, ejji}
{Rick,Qva}
{Seth}
{Tfios ,chemist ,debil}

Tfios I am fairly certain is the last mafia. And I believe the SK is between Chemist and Debil.

I just can't read seth for what it's worth. His behavior as zucker for the majority of the game is just unreadable, but that isn't enough to clear them off as a possible SK.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 20, 2019 9:32 pm

/Vote Tfios
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Seththeking » Mon May 20, 2019 9:49 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:/Vote Tfios


If Tfios is Town.
Ejji should Shoot Chemist.
Almost a 100% Scum Kill.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Seththeking » Mon May 20, 2019 9:49 pm

NGL Over needs to step up on his hosting.
It’s Day 3.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Seththeking » Mon May 20, 2019 9:50 pm

He also doesn’t even have event logs! X.X.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 20, 2019 9:55 pm

Seththeking wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:/Vote Tfios


If Tfios is Town.
Ejji should Shoot Chemist.
Almost a 100% Scum Kill.

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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Qvapil » Mon May 20, 2019 10:45 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:No one is going to push me because I'm town and everyone can see it

And the bolded is just rude

For the record, Chemist, as of right now, and just putting this out there:

If you don't claim Vig today, you're probably one of my highest Mafia/SK reads on both sides.


Maf I can understand due to their stance on crimson, but why SK? I think they were too "out there" EOD1 to be SK.

Oof what you said about having a not maf+not sk read is harder than it seems.

No, Chemist generally isn't afraid to put himself out there as any alignment. What I said closer to Day 1 about constantly comparing people to meta and interrogating others on that basis has really declined from my viewpoint of Chemist since Day 1. His votes were questionable, the exchange about the slip with Flake was still gross, and I've just expected more from him.

From my briefer ISOs of Uzay and Cupcake, I also think the Mafia have a strong player on their team, and Chemist is one of the first people who come to mind. Uzay is good too, don't get me wrong, but I don't expect him to coach people as often as Chemist.


Well if you say so, I'll give chemist's iso a reread. I intended to do that anyway.
I suppose I've been projecting how I'd play SK to read others, which isn't a very accurate way. How'd you go about looking for an SK?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Qvapil » Mon May 20, 2019 10:45 pm

Chemist I don't understand, how does that interaction with uzay clear you from being buddies?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Qvapil » Mon May 20, 2019 11:55 pm

Ejj I won't quote your reply to my wall so as to not clog the thread. I'm not convinced on your goomba read, and the reason I think chem isn't SK is their loud EOD1. I told rick, I thought SK would try to avoid gathering such attention, however rick said he can see chemist doing that. Why do you think chem has a lot of SK equity?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Qvapil » Tue May 21, 2019 12:04 am

Looking at D1 vc with ejj as town, either proto is a god or mafia is in {chem,tfios,rick}. I've excluded goomba, seth and myself. I haven't attempted to read seth but they're probably town. If seth is SK and wins they deserve it tbh.

Tfios is a solid candidate, and I haven't read chem and rick yet. I think chem is the least likely maf in there imo. I'll update once I iso chem, rick and uzay later today.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby 0verki11 » Tue May 21, 2019 2:33 am

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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Seththeking » Tue May 21, 2019 6:23 am

Qvapil wrote:Looking at D1 vc with ejj as town, either proto is a god or mafia is in {chem,tfios,rick}. I've excluded goomba, seth and myself. I haven't attempted to read seth but they're probably town. If seth is SK and wins they deserve it tbh.

Tfios is a solid candidate, and I haven't read chem and rick yet. I think chem is the least likely maf in there imo. I'll update once I iso chem, rick and uzay later today.


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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 21, 2019 6:50 am

Seththeking wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Looking at D1 vc with ejj as town, either proto is a god or mafia is in {chem,tfios,rick}. I've excluded goomba, seth and myself. I haven't attempted to read seth but they're probably town. If seth is SK and wins they deserve it tbh.

Tfios is a solid candidate, and I haven't read chem and rick yet. I think chem is the least likely maf in there imo. I'll update once I iso chem, rick and uzay later today.


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If your SK you deserve it.

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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Postby TheDebil » Tue May 21, 2019 8:52 am

so, quick question for yall

do you think the wagon on cupcake d1 was pure
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 21, 2019 8:55 am

TheDebil wrote:so, quick question for yall

do you think the wagon on cupcake d1 was pure

Depends

If by pure you mean no mafia then yes
If you mean no scum less sure there
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Postby Qvapil » Tue May 21, 2019 9:10 am

Those of you who have played with tfios before, do they get become more active as scum when they're pushed? Because many people have expressed a scumread on them and they don't seem to care that much.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Postby Qvapil » Tue May 21, 2019 9:11 am

Is that AI for tfios at all?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Postby TheDebil » Tue May 21, 2019 10:31 am

Qvapil wrote:Those of you who have played with tfios before, do they get become more active as scum when they're pushed? Because many people have expressed a scumread on them and they don't seem to care that much.

idk but compared to how they somewhat cared in d1 this makes me feel like tfios has given up here, im fine with her lynched

(i also now know what it feels like to be tfios, its not fun)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Postby tfiosforevah » Tue May 21, 2019 10:38 am

TheDebil wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Those of you who have played with tfios before, do they get become more active as scum when they're pushed? Because many people have expressed a scumread on them and they don't seem to care that much.

idk but compared to how they somewhat cared in d1 this makes me feel like tfios has given up here, im fine with her lynched

(i also now know what it feels like to be tfios, its not fun)

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