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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 5:58 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Hello guys! I'm excited to play with you zucker and goomba.

Likewise! Looking forward to it.

Guys overkill is obviously the biggest baddest scum in this game. Just get him.


You're just trying to distract us from the real scum! But I'm onto you!

Why Do You think This post is deflection ?
TBH I cant see that.

i'm gonna take a wild guess and say that they were joking
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 5:59 am

Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

but

why
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 5:59 am

Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

can you be a bit more specific
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 6:03 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
ejjinami wrote:/vote grumpynotacat

Excuse me?! I take serious offense to that. You just called a goomba a 'notacat'. That's seriously Catist of you.

Don't. You're basically daring her to spam 50+ different kitten gifs in retaliation while hungrily demanding your head as tribute. Trust me, she WILL do it.

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ejjinami wrote:Uzay is acting really townie rn btw

Not really.

I can't take either of these seriously. We're still in the first few pages and hours of the game, isn't everything basically still NAI?

Qvapil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Hello guys! I'm excited to play with you zucker and goomba.

We found our Maf-team.
/vote Qvapil


OMGUS
/vote Uzay

Qvapil wrote:Jk, if not obvious. I can't even judge it.

I really hope this was what you meant that you were jk in response to. =/

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Wait, are you even in this game? Last I checked you were a backup?

TBH , I wasnt thinking This was More Than vibe or pocket attempt
But Than both Qva and Dash agreed ,which make me think.
Objectively , there should be 0-2 pocket attempt , 3 Player Trying to pocket me is A no , 2 Player is unlikely Unless SK+ Maf , So it come to my " One or none" theory .
One or none theory : If less Than 5 players Do The Same thing at early Game , there is A high probability that there is 1 or none scum in it .
And? It is not easy to read 3 Player based on just that , but it is A fact that I cant go after pockety vibe from ejji. It was A weak vibe anyway .
Both Qva and Dash , I Dont think If they Ever Do it as scum , it is for pocket , it is More likely blending .
Which is hard to Actually read , but could be noteworthy for future.
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

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Scum Games (10-8)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 6:04 am

Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:reasoning being because entry was wolfy

tfios entries are always similarly wolfy

nai

That's not gonna change my view

read openings of tfios in almost any game and you will see similar irrespective of alignment

Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

can you be a bit more specific

No

/vote Dash2
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 6:05 am

ejjinami wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Uzay is acting really townie rn btw

Not really.

it's mostly tone



........aaaand a stupid tell that I doesn't even need to work
but I still like the way he played till now

Than it is More True to say that This is A townvibe rather Than " townie read "
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55

Scum Games (10-8)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 13, 2019 6:12 am

Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:reasoning being because entry was wolfy

tfios entries are always similarly wolfy

nai

That's not gonna change my view
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

can you be a bit more specific

No

I am most definitely not liking this response. My eyes are on you dash.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 6:14 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:I do kind of like Crimson's entrance this game so far. I'm kind of paranoid over Ejj and Eragon already, I totally see myself struggling to read them all game... xD

inb4Eragoncomplainsaboutmyparanoia


Why do you think you'll struggle to read them?

Because Eragon is literally unreadable and I love Ejj to pieces.

(I love Eragon too but he's more devious as we've discussed)

Pretty sure it is possible to read Eragon as Maf/not Maf .
Funny fact is recently whenever I use that read and read them as town without mentioning Neutral possibility , they somehow Turn Neutral .
Actually I am afraiding The fact that his Mafia Meta may change over time ( Last time We played with him being Maf was An old NFM )
But I think that I can Actually read him as Maf/not Maf .
And If I read him as second , I Will probably need some help between t/n read .
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55

Scum Games (10-8)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 13, 2019 6:36 am

Morning all, can’t make a serious post until like 10 because school sucks

Wb Dash, welcome newbies, catch y’all soon
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 6:45 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:By the way, everyone, what do we think about the tactic of trying to avoid lynching the SK? I'm a bit torn thinking over what exactly our approach this game should be.

Like, because of the whole situation with the switches and all of the WIFOM hell, it's probably really safe to assume that Night Plans this game on our end are going to be utterly useless. We ultimately have no control over any of the night actions that get sent and that end up working, as all of that utility ultimately gets negated by the scum. So really, like, I view this game as 11 cits versus a 3v1 scum faction. The only thing really going for us is that the SK will want the Mafia as dead as badly as we do and can screw with their abilities in a way that we can't. (Like really, I'm still pretty salty that we didn't end up getting more citizens or even a role that can flip switches too.)

So, because of this, we at least have an SK that can crosskill into Mafia, and screw with their switches for as long as the Mafia remain alive. Plus, as more Mafia die, we effectively get stronger over time, since this frees more of the PRs and basically undoes a vanillasizer on the PRs. But if we lynch the SK, Scum loses a KP, but then we almost basically guarantee Scum never cross killing into each other the moment SK dies, and that could be pretty devastating, especially if multiple PRs die before hitting ever hitting Mafia.

Is it also in the better interest of the SK if they try to help us get a few Cop checks to work? They can't outright murder the Town if Mafia remains at full power, so if they did everything in their power to help us find associations between mafia, it's in all of our benefit, right?

Basically I'm unsure how Town wins without us getting lucky on the Vig or without SK helping us kill at least one of the Mafia. Is anyone else familiar with this setup?

We Obviously need Every scum lynch , but I Will prefer SK Dead over mafia .Why ? Let's compare with A Day 1 SK lynch with Day 1 Maf lynch
1) Tomorrow 10v3 versus 9v2v1
2) With SK lynch , Mafia has to free one of PRs . With All Mafia's have 3-shot , We Will be abi to use some PRs before it votes to end at worse situation ( assumation : We couldnt be able to lynch Maf for A while , Maf couldnt be able to kill our PRs )
With Maf lynch , SK can lock The PR We lynched from Mafia for A long time , and with 2 KPN , time wents stronger, and working faster against us.

Another thing I discovered is We can start using our Roles effectively when We Kill 2 scum . And Killing SK early is Actually Giving us More chance to kill A Mafia due less Dead town per Day , I think. Even it removes The possibility SK Killing Mafia .
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 6:46 am

Flake wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

lol @ seth trying to grab town cred and failing

What ?
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 6:48 am

Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

I cc cit

/Vote Zucker

:cry: :ermm: :BlobCry: :BlobCry: :BlobStop:

stop pretending like either cit claim is actually indicative

So You are completely Okay with This with knowing it help scum ?
/vote Flake
I Dont think You thought from town PoV there .
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55

Scum Games (10-8)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 6:50 am

Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

Is This A Meta-read ?
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55

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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 6:51 am

Dash2 wrote:I'm just gonna say this now because I can see this going south quickly. "Can you be more specific" was a stupid question because I already explained all I could in that one post.

you're town reading someone based on meta yet you don't specify what about their play thus far actually makes them townie in consideration of their meta

and i am the one being stupid for trying to get an actual reason from you

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 6:53 am

Qvapil wrote:Oh I forgot I voted Uzay. I think they're town. Thanks rick.
/vote unvote

Flake Have You missed This or intentionally skipped ?
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 6:53 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

I cc cit

/Vote Zucker

:cry: :ermm: :BlobCry: :BlobCry: :BlobStop:

stop pretending like either cit claim is actually indicative

So You are completely Okay with This with knowing it help scum ?
/vote Flake
I Dont think You thought from town PoV there .

It doesn't help scum because seth and crimson both know that claiming cit immediately is bad, they're literally just creating WIFOM
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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 6:56 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

lol @ seth trying to grab town cred and failing

What ?

i'm like 99% sure zucker is seth

if it holds, he might be trying to replicate what happened to cit claimers in 17F where they were considered likely town because they claimed cit as new players
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Qvapil » Mon May 13, 2019 6:57 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Uzay is acting really townie rn btw

Not really.


Why not? I also think they're townie because I like that they explained themselves after dash questioned them.


Interesting , what's your opinion on Dash questioning me ?


I don't think it's AI. He just asked a question.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Qvapil » Mon May 13, 2019 6:58 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Hello guys! I'm excited to play with you zucker and goomba.

Likewise! Looking forward to it.

Guys overkill is obviously the biggest baddest scum in this game. Just get him.


You're just trying to distract us from the real scum! But I'm onto you!

Why Do You think This post is deflection ?
TBH I cant see that.


I wasn't serious.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Oh I forgot I voted Uzay. I think they're town. Thanks rick.
/vote unvote

Flake Have You missed This or intentionally skipped ?

?

what about it
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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 7:00 am

Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

I cc cit

/Vote Zucker

:cry: :ermm: :BlobCry: :BlobCry: :BlobStop:

stop pretending like either cit claim is actually indicative

So You are completely Okay with This with knowing it help scum ?
/vote Flake
I Dont think You thought from town PoV there .

It doesn't help scum because seth and crimson both know that claiming cit immediately is bad, they're literally just creating WIFOM

:Facepalm:
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55

Scum Games (10-8)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 7:00 am

Dash2 wrote:Flake I'm just gonna assume you're purposely being this bad right now

great ad hominem
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Qvapil » Mon May 13, 2019 7:01 am

UzayAltay wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Hello guys! I'm excited to play with you zucker and goomba.

Likewise! Looking forward to it.

Guys overkill is obviously the biggest baddest scum in this game. Just get him.


You're just trying to distract us from the real scum! But I'm onto you!

Why Do You think This post is deflection ?
TBH I cant see that.

I'm pretty sure he was just joking and didn't mean anything by that.

Maybe...
But I think there is A background that Qva Dont like that post , and think it is A waste of time/blending try ( Depends What alignment he thought about You ) . It isnt A joke which cant connected to The Game , More Like A Semi-serious joke , or the Jokes which was made between memephase and actual Game , and help memephase ending.


I was going to say you're overthinking it but you weren't that far off actually. I did think it was weird to randomly attack the host while everyone else is randomly attacking each other. But both of us were joking so I don't think it's important.
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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Postby Flake » Mon May 13, 2019 7:02 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

I cc cit

/Vote Zucker

:cry: :ermm: :BlobCry: :BlobCry: :BlobStop:

stop pretending like either cit claim is actually indicative

So You are completely Okay with This with knowing it help scum ?
/vote Flake
I Dont think You thought from town PoV there .

It doesn't help scum because seth and crimson both know that claiming cit immediately is bad, they're literally just creating WIFOM

:Facepalm:

if it's so stupid explain why i'm wrong

jesus fucking christ can you all stop being so vague
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 7:02 am

Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Oh I forgot I voted Uzay. I think they're town. Thanks rick.
/vote unvote

Flake Have You missed This or intentionally skipped ?

?

what about it

It is Also A TR on me
But You aren't asking The reason Like You Did at Ejji and Dash ?
25-26 Spoiler: Town Games(15-18)

NFM 50 , NFM 51 ,NFM52 , 14D , 14 E , NFM 54 ,14H ( AF ) ,14G , NFM 55 , NFM 56 , 15C , NFM 57,NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B , VFM36 , 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38 , NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39,EpisodeXVII , 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55

Scum Games (10-8)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53 , VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54,EpisodeXIX,SFM63

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