VFM 49: SK win #rekt

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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

Postby TheDebil » Sun May 26, 2019 4:40 pm

Qvapil wrote:Chemist are you awake

chemist should be awake, isnt he american
should be evening for him
probably hes just not here
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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

Postby Chemist1422 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:41 pm

Qvapil wrote:Chemist are you awake

yee, just got home and now I have to go out to dinner

I'll answer questions on mobile but don't expect me to go super in-depth
mist ~ she/her

i guess this is goodbye?
(still here for danganronpa i guess)


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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

Postby TheDebil » Sun May 26, 2019 4:58 pm

Qvapil wrote:Debil anything you wanna talk about

not exaxtly i was hoping you and chemist would talk so i could finish my decision and drop my vote
giving it 30 more minutes then im out
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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

Postby Chemist1422 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:59 pm

I think we all just want the game to end
mist ~ she/her

i guess this is goodbye?
(still here for danganronpa i guess)


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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

Postby TheDebil » Sun May 26, 2019 5:03 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:I think we all just want the game to end

if you arent willing to discuss lets just end it here then
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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

Postby TheDebil » Sun May 26, 2019 5:18 pm

yeah i only had 20 in me, seems like chemist has given up
/vote chemist
if im wrong and it was qva, not even mad. it would be deserved.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

Postby TheDebil » Sun May 26, 2019 5:20 pm

was it you?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 4

Postby 0verki11 » Sun May 26, 2019 8:16 pm

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Chemist was citizen
They have been lynched
Debil was Citizen and was endgamed
Qvaril has completed their wincon and has won
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby woahah » Mon May 27, 2019 12:55 am

jammingduck wrote:I knew something was off about Rick.

how did i do
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby woahah » Mon May 27, 2019 1:48 am

jammingduck wrote:
woahah wrote:
jammingduck wrote:I knew something was off about Rick.

how did i do

Who were you?

the sk
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby woahah » Mon May 27, 2019 2:01 am

jammingduck wrote:
woahah wrote:
jammingduck wrote:
woahah wrote:
jammingduck wrote:I knew something was off about Rick.

how did i do

Who were you?

the sk

Don't tell me Qvapil is your alt.

no
i have not cheated in my games

i was the cit
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Re: VFM 49: €:?,'akhfkskbdvshsorbsg

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 27, 2019 2:37 am

Nice. Qvap deserved the win imo, he played great

ejjinami wrote:If Qvap is scum, he had won before getting his RC

Heh


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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 27, 2019 2:39 am

I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 27, 2019 2:48 am

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Unless you banked on seth being dense

given how seth has been this entire game.yes i would bank on.seth being dense

:clap:

so, SK hunting sucks. I'm also not going to wifom the night kill because it doesn't work.

let's rewind back to the tfios shot from ejji. why did the sk not switch ejji off?

two options, could be combined
1. stupid
2. wasnt in any danger

does either apply to me?

why did no one care about the obvious argument alluding to qva being SK

it just went ignored for some reason and no one even suspected qva even slightly because of it

Well........... the town knowing that I was allowed to shoot was another reason why I wanted to shoot tfio
They didn't know if SK chose town or mafia immunity though, so if anything my shot should have proven that the SK didn't notice that letting me mis-shoot would have lead to the game ending in LyLo instead of MyLo.
This probably cleared chemist, cuz I feel he should have noticed it as SK, regardless of what immunity he chose... but idk if it should be telling for the other players

/shrug


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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 27, 2019 2:49 am

Flake wrote:lowkey mad that i lost the game when i'd have solved all mafia during d3 tfios where they made it blatant that they flip town

qva played decently up until f3 where i feel they actually became obvious, lots of hedging and woe is me, and also in that f3 specifically the argument as to why SK would leave vig switch off comes into play massively, since chemist or debil both could easily have been shot, but no one cared about it

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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 27, 2019 2:51 am

Well, I didn't like the way they played in LyLo either, but besides that I really think they deserve the win
I had them as lock-town most of the time, lol


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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby ejjinami » Mon May 27, 2019 2:53 am

Btw, @woahah who r u?


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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby TheDebil » Mon May 27, 2019 2:54 am

yeah i played pretty badly for the last day
i was pretty much 50/50 but i was afraid chemist was going to vote me so i just went for the push on him
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby TheDebil » Mon May 27, 2019 2:55 am

TheDebil wrote:yeah i played pretty badly for the last day
i was pretty much 50/50 but i was afraid chemist was going to vote me so i just went for the push on him

tried to make it into a qva vs chemist but it just didnt happen
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby TheDebil » Mon May 27, 2019 2:57 am

ejjinami wrote:Btw, @woahah who r u?

woahah is google
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby woahah » Mon May 27, 2019 2:58 am

:BlueThink:
TheDebil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Btw, @woahah who r u?

woahah is google

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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 27, 2019 3:03 am

Oof well played qva... gg
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 27, 2019 3:09 am

Gg Qva
My notes after me dying ( include salt ) :

20 May 2019 Spoiler: First , I want to congratulate All town for winning from 8v3 , which never happened before in That Setup .
(Writing This before Game ends , so If Rick or SK ( Guessing as Chemist )
There was some other salt things earlier , but I am not remembering them .
It is Also Why I am keeping that as diary.

Flake wrote:I think Mafia team is {cupcake, uzay, tfios}

Flake , You were good at reading me . TBH I was suprised I Hadnt Meta read after that Day 1 .
What happened Day 1 ? I Will Spoke .
But The topic at there is Flake thinking I Will throw my Last buddy into fire
Without knowing I would die tonight
It was an important fail , probably not mattered much , but it was important .
ejjinami wrote:/vote tfio

I Dont know How me pushing tfios make tfios scummier .
Like I was just Trying to Get out of PoE .
So many people slipped V , And it is just annoying as Mafia .
TBH If I Ever open an alt , I would slip as town every Game intentionally .
ejjinami wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Six town (one vig), one mafia, one SK

If we mislynch and misshoot we're in LyLo if the vig dies and technical LyLo if the vig lives

Vig shouldn't be claiming unless they get wagoned

Now: 6:1:1
After a ML: 5:1:1
After N3 (2 scum kills and a mis-shot): 2:1:1

If the vig shoots town, dies and the scums don’t cross-kill, we’ll have no chance to win.
So depending on the situation we could be in lylo rn?

:Facepalm:

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Strongly disagree on vig revealing. They get 2 more bloody free shots by not revealing. Also nice one vig.


Antivig Soft on ToS Style
This seems A bit fake , wont be suprised If they flip Vig

Qvapil wrote:Guys I won't be able to be very active today but I will be here tomorrow to help solve this. Or try to, seeing as I've townread both uzay and cup this game so my reads haven't been very accurate. But uzay has had way more interactions than cupcake so I'm confident we can find the last maf from his posts. I'll pop in later to post more thoughts.

TBH I Dont think I would be able to read cupcake as well
But , as town , I would stay off from main wagons
Actually , as Mafia , I would bus Cupcake
Which would end with I start Celebrating at Day 3 probably
TBH It would may be better If Rick stayed with Nicecomeback account , so I can not listen them even though I made crazy things

tfiosforevah wrote:Okay guys, here’s a very important question

Due to the two kills n1 vs the 3 kills n2, are we thinking the vig was shut off or maf/vig hit night immune sk?


/shrug

#3174320: Wait , I just realized Why Flake thought I am scum with tfios .
My voting post and This post is just too close to each other
This is Actually hilarious due Flake thinking I coached tfios , even not say that

#3174325 : Good .
It is More better and better as More as my and Rick's ISO Dont read , Rick can always put magic at that moments .

#3174396 : rip
At least it Gave me moralle about Rick turning that game
Unless You are faking This

Rickdaily12 wrote:Ok, so here's my approach to today.

When my computer stops being a nazi, I'm going to try to do another indepth analysis of VCA again. Hopefully in that time I can stop being absolutely enraged in the process.

After that, I'm going to update my reads.

In the meantime, I have a suggestion.

As it is currently effectively MyLo, the Vig should claim today. I know a lot of people have already argued against this so far, and I don't know if you did it for shortsighted reasons or if you don't understand the consequences of this, but the claim needs to happen now. Reasons why:

1. If people keep being themselves and searching for two scum who cannot associate with each other from now on, if someone's strongest SR 24 hours from now is the Vig, they have wasted the entire day for nothing and you now force that person to guess within their remaining PoE with weaker accuracy.

2. Building on the above, everyone's PoE becomes stronger with one less suspect on the list, as we'll have more time to look over everyone else between now and EoD.

3. The Vig has a high likihood of dying after tonight if we mislynch regardless. Outting the Vig also increasing the chances of Scum targetting the same player (we WIFOM mafia and SK into hitting the same target if they try to gamble on whether to be the one to kill the vig or not)

Basically I see every reason for the vig to out and virtually zero reasons not to. With the amount of killing power in the game, it just really doesn't matter at this point. Vigs should claim in every MyLo anyway, it's pretty much straight forward meta.

Let's not waste any time today.

If anyone has any questions that I'm not about to spend time answering anyway, please bump them and I'll get back to them later at some point, but I'm going to start with the flips.

Rick's magic starts
It is A townie post , which seems logical from Town's PoV
But town is missing one thing , ( at least The claim-Wanters )
Maf and SK didnt crosskill Night 2
It , just , wont Work .
#3174427If they are scum

Debil's reads : I was just Trying to pressure Ejji .
Than Everyone started TR me /shrug
#3174480 : When Rick is Trying to push Chem without broking me :)
#3174485 : I didnt bus
Due You preventing me
Like If Nicecomeback was here , I would bus without A second think
( Maybe can say " I bussed " Like I Did at tracker claim )
#3174505: How can sb bus better Than purgatory Game ?
( Every Mafia legit bussed 3 Mafia )
#3174506 :mrgreen:
#3174513 ( I Also Do it that Game , too )
I wish I had Said it .


22 May 2019 / Wednesday

Spoiler: I didnt want to write Last evening , due low WIM on thread .
Rick didnt put magic , want to congratulate village here , Rick tried their best , If Ejji wasnt Vig it could went different .
Ejji again read me Correct , after NFM 48 , second time with me being scum and them being village , and again A loss. What went wrong ? Okay , both me and Rick are better as town , but ...
Still , half of The town was just Okay , not good , not bad prob but not good . Flake was good , Ejji was good , Chem was good but not town , Dash was good , but not on right track , Era ?
Wait Era ? Why SK killed Era ? Only Player who would Do that is Chem IMO , but may be wrong.
Yes , I was speaking about How Did Game go down ?
It started went down from Day 1 .
We need to decide How to Get around with cupcake .
Cupcake , Please never Ever play Like that again .
I think not bussing was First strategic mistake , I think it is due rick thinking cupcake can Save theirselves later , objectively , without Dash 's check they Will lynched anyways at one point .
Nightkills , Rick didnt know I was good at kill choices , and I didnt say that . It is A mistake on my part . Rick's kill was good , too , I cant blame them for them .
SK Not closing Vig , Like What was they expecting ? Bad play from that part .
#3175591: Not aggreeing on my part .
Cup wagon appeared at Last 24 hours anyway .
And as town , I probably stay off-wagon .
With commenting on main wagon Maybe .
I think The indicative thing Was me really commenting on there .

UzayAltay wrote:24 May 2019 / Friday

Spoiler: Not much to speak , tfios shoot was bad , and If Chem isnt SK he need to back to NFM with that quickhammer.
But he probably is .
TBH I am not trusting Qva , feeling they may be secret SK here .
Which should be congratulated.
If Chem is SK and they win , Everyone Except Chem needs to back to NFM .
With Chemist hosting it .




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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 27, 2019 3:14 am

Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Unless you banked on seth being dense

given how seth has been this entire game.yes i would bank on.seth being dense

:clap:

so, SK hunting sucks. I'm also not going to wifom the night kill because it doesn't work.

let's rewind back to the tfios shot from ejji. why did the sk not switch ejji off?

two options, could be combined
1. stupid
2. wasnt in any danger

does either apply to me?

why did no one care about the obvious argument alluding to qva being SK

it just went ignored for some reason and no one even suspected qva even slightly because of it

Well........... the town knowing that I was allowed to shoot was another reason why I wanted to shoot tfio
They didn't know if SK chose town or mafia immunity though, so if anything my shot should have proven that the SK didn't notice that letting me mis-shoot would have lead to the game ending in LyLo instead of MyLo.
This probably cleared chemist, cuz I feel he should have noticed it as SK, regardless of what immunity he chose... but idk if it should be telling for the other players

/shrug


Well my dumb ass with vig immunity thought 4 townies is better than 5 townies so it was telling yeah

What Did You switched at nights ?
Us : N1-Doc/Vig , N2-Cop ,
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NFM50,NFM51,NFM52,14D,14E, NFM54 ,14H (AF), 14G, NFM 55, NFM 56, 15C, NFM 57, NFM 58,15F,SFM45,16B, VFM36, 16D , SFM 47 , VFM38, NFM62 , 16G ,VFM 39, EpisodeXVII, 17B , 17C , VFM44 , 17D , 17F,18C,18D,18E,VFM55,VFM57,SFM64, 19C,VFM58,VFM59 ,19D,VFM60,SFM66,SFM67,VFM64,SFM70,VFM69,XX7,XX9, VFM71,VFM72, VFM73, VFM74, 21A,VFM75,VFM76,XX14,VFM77,XX16,VFM78,VFM79

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