VFM 49: SK win #rekt

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:02 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:first friendly reminder of the game that spoiler tag exists so can we stop clogging the thread with long quote chains

What? But... but you're using Franziska as your avatar...

She always loves to point out how I don't have any evidence when I bluff the shit out of her prove that I know what happened.

(but tbr yeah this is why I like to either trim relevant quote chains or spoiler them when they get too big)

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Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:first friendly reminder of the game that spoiler tag exists so can we stop clogging the thread with long quote chains

Oh did you not hear

They got rid of spoilers for non-trusted

WHAT
WHY
WTF

Oh, right, I forgot this was a thing too.

Yeah, being NCM was not a fun experience at all.


Is This Because of my tracker claim at that Game ?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:04 pm

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Dash2 wrote:first friendly reminder of the game that spoiler tag exists so can we stop clogging the thread with long quote chains


[spoiler]


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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:09 pm

Zucker wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:Yeah, never mind. Zucker is definitely Seth, and that all about confirms that it's the case.

I'm definitely not impressed with his handling of the game so far, then. =/


Yeah I tend to brake character... ^_^

I just play like that though.
I read until I find a post I don’t like and go off on it and accuse that person.
What’s wrong with that play?
Doesn’t mean I’m not down to vote others but Dash is definitely not Town.

TBH I was doing This before with More tinfoil , with More players , and being less annoying
Believe me or not it only success 1 or 2 times at 30 games
And when it success , We had 16B .
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote: Spoiler: Fist raised, you could cause a reaction
Ain't nobody gonna fuck with me (fuck with me)
I can tell by the way that you're acting
And we could both agree
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya'
I mix pain with a little satisfaction
They go together all the same to be
I'm just tryna stay ahead of the action
And we could both agree
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I smile but there's blood in my reflection
There's violence in the poetry (poetry)
When it's over, there's no resurrection
At least for you and me
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I march on, just like violence
Today, I'll break the silence
Feels good, be compliant
Do you see me when you close your eyelids
Today I'ma get back up
Fists raised, let's get close up
Your life won't be so rough
Get the fuck up, 'cause we've had enough
Here we lay
In our final hours, like dying flowers
The price we pay
As you struggle for power that your ego devours (ego devours)
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I march on, just like violence
Today, I'll break the silence
Feels good, be compliant
Do you see me when you close your eyelids


Eragon
There was some good times when You just post sth Like This as town .
But later You started to post This as every alignment
This lose their furction
So , what's The reason of keep posting these ?



:ThinkEyes: :ThinkEyes:

maybe

just maybe

because I want to post it

because its fun

?

you literally did the same thing with a picture of a cat that I posted for like, no reason
and ur like "whats the meaning with this"
>literally a cat picture
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:12 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:A shitpost is a shitpost... you just have to decide if it is the good shit shitpost or the bad shit shitpost.


or a shit shit shitpost

UzayAltay wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Eragon
There was some good times when You just post sth Like This as town .
But later You started to post This as every alignment
This lose their furction
So , what's The reason of keep posting these ?


Maybe "attack" was a bad word choice, but my point is you're acting like a simple shitpost means anything

It was '
I am just curious about Why he is keep doing This , only thing about that which can connected to The Game is I want them speaking More , which is irrevelant due I want Everyone speak More .
I just , want to ask that ... I Dont know , Maybe I should have asked This at post-game , but asking This now , when We Dont have Real activity and even The smallest vibe means sth . Eragon is free to not answer If he believe it isnt topic of Game , but I would be More happy If they answer .


I was like

the 5th post of the game or something
I can post memes if I want

no not a meme phase dash
just I can post memes
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:14 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

I cc cit

/Vote Zucker

:cry: :ermm: :BlobCry: :BlobCry: :BlobStop:


>thinking these mean anything at all is :EvilLUL:

Dash2 wrote:great first impressions guys

/vote Qvapil

why do(did) you think Qvapil is scummy?

ejjinami wrote:yeah, listen to crimson, sexuality is bad. KILL ASSES WITH FIRE! >:D


that wasn't crimson tho

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:16 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Unless you want to metaread them, but still shouldn't we respect the fact that it's an alt? If it is one. I don't know how you guys deal with alts around here, so correct me if this isn't a problem.

It's really not a problem anymore now that he outed himself. The only real issue is the meta basis- Seth might be new to FM and all, but there are tricks and tips he's learning not to do around here, and feigning ignorance to those tips isn't going to be an excuse he can carry with himself forever.

That, and he's still ignoring my question. :x

Chemist, why is this his Town meta again?

Qvapil wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:I was thinking a bit about the setup, and I believe lynching SK early benefits us simply because we reduce kpn. It's true that the prs are under mafia's control at that point but once we find a mafia member we'll have more options. I think having more townies alive (by reducing kpn) is more important than the prs, though take this with a grain of salt since I haven't played anything like this before.

Whether or not you agree with the course of action, this post screams Town to me. Doesn't feel coached to me either.


You suggested keeping the SK alive earlier, and everyone that has responded to you so far disagreed. What do you think about what we said?

I think that you're right in that it depends. It's still difficult to say- the moment the SK dies, everyone in the Town becomes a Citizen until Day 4. That's pretty brutal, considering that three night kills where everyone is vanilla allows Mafia to kill the PRs and we're left stuck trying to clean up the aftermath of it all. Lynching SK now to preserve the number of dead Town each night is ideal, but unless we can hit them today, which is unlikely, I can't help but feel like Mafia is the big threat all game long for everyone.

The reason I asked this question was to test the waters on how everyone else feels about it, though. I like what I got from it.
The thing is not Everyone , Mafia has to free one PR .
Or they just cant kill
If they Dont kill , We can just no-lynch , and net gain is 1 night .
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:17 pm

ejjinami wrote:Uzay is acting really townie rn btw



:ThinkDrink: :ThinkDrink:

explain
all they've done is take a song way too seriously
its NAI
but not towny

ejjinami wrote:
Qvapil wrote:It obviously stands for Over Makes Gravely Unwinnable Setups.

hahahahaha, townie


NGL, I thought the same thing
but then throat punched myself and got rid of it
Qvapil wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Uzay is acting really townie rn btw

Not really.


Why not? I also think they're townie because I like that they explained themselves after dash questioned them.


scum can explain themselves to
._.

p:edit- @Dash. You dont scare me :3
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:18 pm

Dash2 wrote: Spoiler: Mafia Cop Switch
Welcome . You are the Mafia Cop Switch , along with your partners, [Player Name] and [Player Name].

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partners here (Link)
Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partners may perform the factional kill providing they aren't also using their switch.
Cop Switch: You may use the Cop Switch 3 times at night to deactivate the Cop for the night. Note: it's possible that the SK could reverse your decision.

You win when the Mafia obtain a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Mafia Doctor Switch
Welcome. You are the Mafia Doctor Switch, along with your partners, [Player Name] and [Player Name].

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partners here (link)
Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partners may perform the factional kill providing they aren't also using their switch.
Doctor Switch: You may use the Doctor Switch 3 times at night to deactivate the Doctor for the night. Note: it's possible that the SK could reverse your decision.

You win when the Mafia obtain a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring.


Mafia Vigilante Switch
Welcome. You are the Mafia Vigilante Switch , along with your partners, [Player Name] and [Player Name].


Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partners here (Link)
Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partners may perform the factional kill providing they aren't also using their switch.
Vig Switch: You may use the Vig Switch 3 times at night to deactivate the Vig for the night. Note: it's possible that the SK could reverse your decision.

You win when the Mafia obtain a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring.


Nowhere in the rolecards does it imply you can do both actions, so I'm gonna assume that you have to choose one or the other. There's essentially no real reason for Mafia Vig to not shoot, so that's already giving up one switch. As for Mafia cop, information is vital to them, so not using their cop is also a waste. That brings us down to the Mafia doctor. This one kind of depends on the situation, but I can see the switch being used here.

What ?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:21 pm

Qvapil wrote:Oh I forgot I voted Uzay. I think they're town. Thanks rick.
/vote unvote



:BlueThink:

Qvapil wrote:It was a joke vote though. I think your reaction was a bit too much.


whose reaction and whose vote?

Rickdaily12 wrote:I do kind of like Crimson's entrance this game so far. I'm kind of paranoid over Ejj and Eragon already, I totally see myself struggling to read them all game... xD

inb4Eragoncomplainsaboutmyparanoia


WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IM DEVIOUS AS A MAFIA
I ONLY WAS TOWNREAD BECAUSE I BUSSED RUTHLESSLY

sorry rick had to do it

also why does Crimson's... erm... eh eh... entrance

seem towny?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:21 pm

who the fuck is suggesting no-lynching in a game with 2KPN
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:25 pm

Dash2 wrote:Alright so BCS this would need to be the order that scum dies

Mafia Cop
Mafia Vig
SK
Mafia Doc

:Facepalm:
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NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:26 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:who the fuck is suggesting no-lynching in a game with 2KPN

I am suggesting it WHEN WE LYNCH SK DAY 1 AND MAFİA MİSSES A KİLL LATER
I am raged now
Also with our PRs alive obviously
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:27 pm

Dash2 wrote:We legit can't afford to no lynch in this setup where the mafia is at a major advantage

Have You even read when I am suggesting This for ?
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

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Scum Games (19-14)

NFM 48 , NFM 49 , TFM 65 ,TFM 66 , Episode XV ,TFM68 ,VFM 34, NFM61 , VFM42 , SFM53, VFM43,17E,VFM49,SFM60,CFM19,VFM54, EpisodeXIX, SFM63, 19E, 19F ,VFM62 ,VFM63,XX3,VFM66,XX5,VFM67,XX6,SFM72,XX8,VFM70,XX10,SFM76,SFM80
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:28 pm

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Rickdaily12 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
ejjinami wrote:/vote grumpynotacat

Excuse me?! I take serious offense to that. You just called a goomba a 'notacat'. That's seriously Catist of you.

Don't. You're basically daring her to spam 50+ different kitten gifs in retaliation while hungrily demanding your head as tribute. Trust me, she WILL do it.

FUCK
I totally should have done that!

and hey, don't warn them! D:<

I only just realized that I can't meta read you for shit and this is our first ever game together...

Craaaaaaaaaaap. D:


imo

Ejji is really...

like bleeding towny when they are town
thats my experience in 2 of my games with them on MS

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:I do kind of like Crimson's entrance this game so far. I'm kind of paranoid over Ejj and Eragon already, I totally see myself struggling to read them all game... xD

inb4Eragoncomplainsaboutmyparanoia


Why do you think you'll struggle to read them?

Because Eragon is literally unreadable and I love Ejj to pieces.

(I love Eragon too but he's more devious as we've discussed)


*angry welsh cat noises*

Rickdaily12 wrote:By the way, everyone, what do we think about the tactic of trying to avoid lynching the SK? I'm a bit torn thinking over what exactly our approach this game should be.

Like, because of the whole situation with the switches and all of the WIFOM hell, it's probably really safe to assume that Night Plans this game on our end are going to be utterly useless. We ultimately have no control over any of the night actions that get sent and that end up working, as all of that utility ultimately gets negated by the scum. So really, like, I view this game as 11 cits versus a 3v1 scum faction. The only thing really going for us is that the SK will want the Mafia as dead as badly as we do and can screw with their abilities in a way that we can't. (Like really, I'm still pretty salty that we didn't end up getting more citizens or even a role that can flip switches too.)

So, because of this, we at least have an SK that can crosskill into Mafia, and screw with their switches for as long as the Mafia remain alive. Plus, as more Mafia die, we effectively get stronger over time, since this frees more of the PRs and basically undoes a vanillasizer on the PRs. But if we lynch the SK, Scum loses a KP, but then we almost basically guarantee Scum never cross killing into each other the moment SK dies, and that could be pretty devastating, especially if multiple PRs die before hitting ever hitting Mafia.

Is it also in the better interest of the SK if they try to help us get a few Cop checks to work? They can't outright murder the Town if Mafia remains at full power, so if they did everything in their power to help us find associations between mafia, it's in all of our benefit, right?

Basically I'm unsure how Town wins without us getting lucky on the Vig or without SK helping us kill at least one of the Mafia. Is anyone else familiar with this setup?


I agree with you here

the serial killer is an asset early game
its not a bad kill, and always better than lynching town
but I think lynching mafia is always the best

Flake wrote:hi losers im town again fuck


no

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Thank you Uzay very cool.

Also we have 3 bloody cit claims already why yall do this...


kappa?



UzayAltay wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Qvapil wrote:It obviously stands for Over Makes Gravely Unwinnable Setups.

hahahahaha, townie

Wait
I just take The joke
I wish I didnt take .
If We think We cant win , We cant win .
Dont lose your hope , Ever .
( If You Dont know The Story , look at endgame ( Last 2 days ) . )


lol
it has a 33% town winrate on MS
a site that has objectively better town players than here


UzayAltay wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:I do kind of like Crimson's entrance this game so far. I'm kind of paranoid over Ejj and Eragon already, I totally see myself struggling to read them all game... xD

inb4Eragoncomplainsaboutmyparanoia


Why do you think you'll struggle to read them?

Because Eragon is literally unreadable and I love Ejj to pieces.

(I love Eragon too but he's more devious as we've discussed)

Pretty sure it is possible to read Eragon as Maf/not Maf .
Funny fact is recently whenever I use that read and read them as town without mentioning Neutral possibility , they somehow Turn Neutral .
Actually I am afraiding The fact that his Mafia Meta may change over time ( Last time We played with him being Maf was An old NFM )
But I think that I can Actually read him as Maf/not Maf .
And If I read him as second , I Will probably need some help between t/n read .


I mean
it helps that like
the last 6 games ive played or something
ive been neutral or town

lol
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:30 pm

wait what the shit
serial killer can switch a no-switch from mafia
what the hell
what is this balance
but it is true that serial killer should be maf-hunting if we mislynch
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:36 pm

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UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

I cc cit

/Vote Zucker

:cry: :ermm: :BlobCry: :BlobCry: :BlobStop:

stop pretending like either cit claim is actually indicative

So You are completely Okay with This with knowing it help scum ?
/vote Flake
I Dont think You thought from town PoV there .


he literally said neither are AI

stopping people from BRINGING THEM UP IF THEY ARE AI
LIKE OTHER PEOPLE I COULD MENTION
making a big deal out of it

instead of just acting like its fake

UzayAltay wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Uzay is acting really townie rn btw

Not really.

it's mostly tone



........aaaand a stupid tell that I doesn't even need to work
but I still like the way he played till now

@Flake , didnt You find that enough ?
/unvote
/vote unvote

I Like your reaction to me
Even though I am not aggreeing with You and it is bad , and could be dangerous .


but the more we make it seem fake
the more scum thinks its fake
and will not be sure what to do

Zucker wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:By the way, everyone, what do we think about the tactic of trying to avoid lynching the SK? I'm a bit torn thinking over what exactly our approach this game should be.

Like, because of the whole situation with the switches and all of the WIFOM hell, it's probably really safe to assume that Night Plans this game on our end are going to be utterly useless. We ultimately have no control over any of the night actions that get sent and that end up working, as all of that utility ultimately gets negated by the scum. So really, like, I view this game as 11 cits versus a 3v1 scum faction. The only thing really going for us is that the SK will want the Mafia as dead as badly as we do and can screw with their abilities in a way that we can't. (Like really, I'm still pretty salty that we didn't end up getting more citizens or even a role that can flip switches too.)

So, because of this, we at least have an SK that can crosskill into Mafia, and screw with their switches for as long as the Mafia remain alive. Plus, as more Mafia die, we effectively get stronger over time, since this frees more of the PRs and basically undoes a vanillasizer on the PRs. But if we lynch the SK, Scum loses a KP, but then we almost basically guarantee Scum never cross killing into each other the moment SK dies, and that could be pretty devastating, especially if multiple PRs die before hitting ever hitting Mafia.

Is it also in the better interest of the SK if they try to help us get a few Cop checks to work? They can't outright murder the Town if Mafia remains at full power, so if they did everything in their power to help us find associations between mafia, it's in all of our benefit, right?

Basically I'm unsure how Town wins without us getting lucky on the Vig or without SK helping us kill at least one of the Mafia. Is anyone else familiar with this setup?

We Obviously need Every scum lynch , but I Will prefer SK Dead over mafia .Why ? Let's compare with A Day 1 SK lynch with Day 1 Maf lynch
1) Tomorrow 10v3 versus 9v2v1
2) With SK lynch , Mafia has to free one of PRs . With All Mafia's have 3-shot , We Will be abi to use some PRs before it votes to end at worse situation ( assumation : We couldnt be able to lynch Maf for A while , Maf couldnt be able to kill our PRs )
With Maf lynch , SK can lock The PR We lynched from Mafia for A long time , and with 2 KPN , time wents stronger, and working faster against us.

Another thing I discovered is We can start using our Roles effectively when We Kill 2 scum . And Killing SK early is Actually Giving us More chance to kill A Mafia due less Dead town per Day , I think. Even it removes The possibility SK Killing Mafia .


Now time for me to give reasoning your town :).

You start the discussion right away trying to lead Town.
You state your opinion like this to show Town what we should do in a very proper manor.
Your trying to help others Understand the Situation.
Scum wouldn’t be sole focused on SK because they need him to kill at least for the first night!

^_^


and scum can't control discussion or act like they are doing pro-town things?
he...
isn't fully focusing on SK?
and mafia don't need sk to kill
becuase its fairly balanced without a second KPN
I think its like 10v3 after an SK Lynch and kill
which is a little more town than normal
but also its basically vanilla for 3 nights
which makes it basically mountainous
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:39 pm

Flake wrote:does jord ever fake a townslip like that

i doubt it

scum never overlooks info on switches since they all actively partake in using them so

jord is like always town probably


I want to open A paranthesis , he only slipped not Maf .
Even though I am leaning on town , he can be SK .
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:39 pm

Zucker wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Zucker wrote:Now I don’t know who Dash plays.
But I just feel as if he’s trying to fit in but is effort lacks majorly.
It feels really bad and I don’t think their really helping town whatsoever.


I don't know, I think flake is worse in that manner.


At least Flake is giving detail to back up what he’s done. ^_^
Dash Refuses to give Detail
Dash states stuff with no actual context
Dash doesn’t even look like they want to actually help town
Dash should be lynched today, if Flake is still very scummy tomorrow then we can definitely vote them.


since when has effort been strictly AI

Dash2 wrote:I don't like how Zucker's "catchup" are only responses to me and they're all shadethrowing posts

/vote Zucker


dash is way too non-ragey and emotional to be scum
dash town ez :^)

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:40 pm

ejjinami wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:It doesn't help scum because seth and crimson both know that claiming cit immediately is bad, they're literally just creating WIFOM

:Facepalm:

I really don’t understand that reaction

And I don’t like the conversation between uzay and flake. Flake kept saying that “claims might be fake even if town” and uzay seemed to SR him for “being ok with them”, which would make sense only if uzay didn’t understand flake’s point at all.
And I don’t think that can be the case
The SR feels possibly fake.

Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:/vote tfios


Um well, Dash.
That vote seemed like it happened for the sole purpose of bluntly voting someone.
Tfios always claims Citizen Day 1 and they usually are Citizen ^_^.

When I was reading you seemed the most sketchy. *_^

Shitty read: Would Zucker have added the thing about tfio usually being cit if he knew that this time she isn’t? (SvS)
UNLESS THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BEFORE, I think it might be unlikely.
Zucker doesn’t seem like the type to intentionally write that to manipulate the townies into TRing his teammate…


I am remembering explaining This
Basicly I didnt Get Why it isnt antitown until I understand it may not be fully antitown
Still thinking it is on The antitownier Side due even it creates WIFOM , scum Dont have that WIFOM before So tecnically it still Gave scum something , and it is Okay Flake not thinking that deep
If he thought that , but still make that comment , I am Okay with revote
The thing is I cant know If he thought that or not
( He even ignored my question about You , /poke Flake here .)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:42 pm

Dash2 wrote:So some things to note is how Goomba didn't do much until Flake started accusing me, and Zucker supposedly skipped until my response to Flake and only my posts as a catchup. Flake himself I'll be going into once I am on my laptop, but I have reason to believe at least one of these are scum.


<3 nice claim

one of (goomba, zucker, flake) is mafia

1 of 3 people

in a 15 player game
with 4 scum

thats pretty much
the exact chances by rand

fun :^)

/s

Phone0Ix wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:reasoning being because entry was wolfy

tfios entries are always similarly wolfy

nai

That's not gonna change my view

read openings of tfios in almost any game and you will see similar irrespective of alignment

Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

can you be a bit more specific

No

/vote Dash2

Lol now that's a bad vote. Dash's intentions to make posts like that feel like they have town motivation. And their vote also.


"dash's intentions to do this feel like town intention"

what even?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:44 pm

Eragon1329 wrote: Spoiler:
UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Zucker wrote:I flipped Citizen! ^_^
Good luck everyone!

I cc cit

/Vote Zucker

:cry: :ermm: :BlobCry: :BlobCry: :BlobStop:

stop pretending like either cit claim is actually indicative

So You are completely Okay with This with knowing it help scum ?
/vote Flake
I Dont think You thought from town PoV there .


he literally said neither are AI

stopping people from BRINGING THEM UP IF THEY ARE AI
LIKE OTHER PEOPLE I COULD MENTION
making a big deal out of it

instead of just acting like its fake

UzayAltay wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Uzay is acting really townie rn btw

Not really.

it's mostly tone



........aaaand a stupid tell that I doesn't even need to work
but I still like the way he played till now

@Flake , didnt You find that enough ?
/unvote
/vote unvote

I Like your reaction to me
Even though I am not aggreeing with You and it is bad , and could be dangerous .


but the more we make it seem fake
the more scum thinks its fake
and will not be sure what to do

Zucker wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:By the way, everyone, what do we think about the tactic of trying to avoid lynching the SK? I'm a bit torn thinking over what exactly our approach this game should be.

Like, because of the whole situation with the switches and all of the WIFOM hell, it's probably really safe to assume that Night Plans this game on our end are going to be utterly useless. We ultimately have no control over any of the night actions that get sent and that end up working, as all of that utility ultimately gets negated by the scum. So really, like, I view this game as 11 cits versus a 3v1 scum faction. The only thing really going for us is that the SK will want the Mafia as dead as badly as we do and can screw with their abilities in a way that we can't. (Like really, I'm still pretty salty that we didn't end up getting more citizens or even a role that can flip switches too.)

So, because of this, we at least have an SK that can crosskill into Mafia, and screw with their switches for as long as the Mafia remain alive. Plus, as more Mafia die, we effectively get stronger over time, since this frees more of the PRs and basically undoes a vanillasizer on the PRs. But if we lynch the SK, Scum loses a KP, but then we almost basically guarantee Scum never cross killing into each other the moment SK dies, and that could be pretty devastating, especially if multiple PRs die before hitting ever hitting Mafia.

Is it also in the better interest of the SK if they try to help us get a few Cop checks to work? They can't outright murder the Town if Mafia remains at full power, so if they did everything in their power to help us find associations between mafia, it's in all of our benefit, right?

Basically I'm unsure how Town wins without us getting lucky on the Vig or without SK helping us kill at least one of the Mafia. Is anyone else familiar with this setup?

We Obviously need Every scum lynch , but I Will prefer SK Dead over mafia .Why ? Let's compare with A Day 1 SK lynch with Day 1 Maf lynch
1) Tomorrow 10v3 versus 9v2v1
2) With SK lynch , Mafia has to free one of PRs . With All Mafia's have 3-shot , We Will be abi to use some PRs before it votes to end at worse situation ( assumation : We couldnt be able to lynch Maf for A while , Maf couldnt be able to kill our PRs )
With Maf lynch , SK can lock The PR We lynched from Mafia for A long time , and with 2 KPN , time wents stronger, and working faster against us.

Another thing I discovered is We can start using our Roles effectively when We Kill 2 scum . And Killing SK early is Actually Giving us More chance to kill A Mafia due less Dead town per Day , I think. Even it removes The possibility SK Killing Mafia .


Now time for me to give reasoning your town :).

You start the discussion right away trying to lead Town.
You state your opinion like this to show Town what we should do in a very proper manor.
Your trying to help others Understand the Situation.
Scum wouldn’t be sole focused on SK because they need him to kill at least for the first night!

^_^


and scum can't control discussion or act like they are doing pro-town things?
he...
isn't fully focusing on SK?
and mafia don't need sk to kill
becuase its fairly balanced without a second KPN
I think its like 10v3 after an SK Lynch and kill
which is a little more town than normal
but also its basically vanilla for 3 nights
which makes it basically mountainous


Should I really explain Same thing third time with sleep walking over my head ?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:47 pm

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Chemist1422 wrote:btw @Rick

I think the current numbers depend on whether we lynch the SK or not

On D1 that’s always a yes, after more town are dead than scum probably no



sounds right to me

Flake wrote:my o key is now broken along with my e key

fun

didnt you just type those :/

Phone0Ix wrote:
Flake wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:If anything, you're being a hypocrite. If I need to go and be specific about Uzay's meta then how about you show me all the games where tfios was town and had a bad entrance. You didn't do that, did you?

difference between being vague when not asked to explain something which should be obvious and remaining vague once asked to explain something unobvious to anyone but you because either you can't be bothered or you can't actually draw similarities between town!uzay and uzay here which can be observed by anyone, in which case i don't see how you even believe your metaread yourself

as for tfios thing

VFM48 (Town):
tfiosforevah wrote:yo whats up

im gonna hard claim cit bc y not


17F (Town):

"Let me get in on that cit claim action"

now play spot why i'd think tfios' entrance in this game would be NAI at worst

Does Flake do things like this when hes scum? Idk tbh

Feels townie though

yes i do probably

Bon bon Flake passes test, saying a thing he did could come from scum!Flake!

Flake feels townie


how is that passing a test

scum will say they could do it as scum for other reasons too...
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Mon May 13, 2019 3:49 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote: Spoiler: Fist raised, you could cause a reaction
Ain't nobody gonna fuck with me (fuck with me)
I can tell by the way that you're acting
And we could both agree
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya'
I mix pain with a little satisfaction
They go together all the same to be
I'm just tryna stay ahead of the action
And we could both agree
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I smile but there's blood in my reflection
There's violence in the poetry (poetry)
When it's over, there's no resurrection
At least for you and me
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I march on, just like violence
Today, I'll break the silence
Feels good, be compliant
Do you see me when you close your eyelids
Today I'ma get back up
Fists raised, let's get close up
Your life won't be so rough
Get the fuck up, 'cause we've had enough
Here we lay
In our final hours, like dying flowers
The price we pay
As you struggle for power that your ego devours (ego devours)
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I march on, just like violence
Today, I'll break the silence
Feels good, be compliant
Do you see me when you close your eyelids


Eragon
There was some good times when You just post sth Like This as town .
But later You started to post This as every alignment
This lose their furction
So , what's The reason of keep posting these ?



:ThinkEyes: :ThinkEyes:

maybe

just maybe

because I want to post it

because its fun

?

you literally did the same thing with a picture of a cat that I posted for like, no reason
and ur like "whats the meaning with this"
>literally a cat picture

Wait
Havent that cat meant fluffy ?
And This two aren't close , I am not good with knowing other meaning of words , for example at Another Game somebody posted A Tree
Which I learnt later means shade
But at there , I just asked an honest question
I knew there wasnt any meaning , which is critical difference
Also I remembered All gold times when I can read You accurately with just looking " Did he posted sth Like poem "
So , Yes , it wasnt noteworthy probably , I just wanted to ask an honest question.
Actually not even hoping for You answering . Thanks :)
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:51 pm

Dash2 wrote:first friendly reminder of the game that spoiler tag exists so can we stop clogging the thread with long quote chains


and not the last

pets

Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Phone is town

I agree


Chemist has been very off.
He doesn’t really add anything new to the conversation.
Dash is only saying Phone is Town because scum wants someone to follow them! ^_^
Qva did it to Seththeking and it worked on him. ^_^


once again
when has effort been strictly AI

Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:guys let me know when zucker isn't being useless I'm blocking him now


Isn’t it illegal to block someone participating?


HAH

HAH

NO
Spoiler:


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