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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:28 pm

Rickdaily12 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Rick can i answer that tomorrow?
I am generally stating /hinting when that happens, but there May be ones i haven't said due it only changing very light..
And i need to read at least 2 more player for commit a vote
And i dont have much time for that, i am about to forfeit to sleep.

Fine, I guess, it would just be nice to have a better idea of what people you're looking at before flips happen by tomorrow. :|

Even like, a Chemist-Style reads list would help before you go.


chemist has a style of readlists pog

Rickdaily12 wrote:Now that Proto has been posting more, does anyone else hate the slot?

I'm pretty much putting Proto on par with Cupcake as jesters at this point and wanting both dead right now, so does anyone else have a better read?


yes

yes

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Rickdaily12 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:31 pm

I don't like how quiet the thread's gotten over the past few hours.

Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Reminder to stop listening to Zucker because he literally has no idea what he's talking about

that happened a looooong time ago

Dash if there's a deepwolf who is it

For me, it's a tossup between Flake or ejj... but I'm pretty doubtful about this for the time being. They're probably the scariest of my Town reads, though.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:31 pm

cupcakeaj2 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Uh huh

Quality post


This is even more quality.

Okay let's commit reading.

To look at my rolecard or to not?


yes

it actually is more quality

cupcakeaj2 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:I refuse to fucking believe you didn't read your rolecard and openly admitted to gamethrowing


shhhhhh there's scum listening

And there's a lot to read, wow.

Ok


scumclaim


Dash2 wrote:Cupcake if you flip town I'm actually reporting you for jesting



yep dash is conf town
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:32 pm

Dash2 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Reminder to stop listening to Zucker because he literally has no idea what he's talking about

that happened a looooong time ago

Dash if there's a deepwolf who is it

If you've been paying attention at all you'd know the answer to that

I am but I probably read it once and forgot it

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Crimson97 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:33 pm

I'm back bitches.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:34 pm

Flake wrote:what

cupcakeaj2 wrote:Idea: Don't look at your rolecard until N1


he said this well before the push on him LOOL

so him saying he hasn't read his rolecard is probably a genuine non-mafia slip???


i kinda

even doubt this is true



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Chemist1422 wrote:Feelsmobileman

/vote tfios

explain fatty


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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:34 pm

Crimson97 wrote:I'm back bitches.

1. Are you scum
1.5. Why not
2. If you aren't, who should we lynch today
3. Why
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Crimson97 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:35 pm

It has come to my attention after looking at the lastest vc our fine host 0verkill has posted that i am the top wagon. Nice.

Who tf is Qvaril btw?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:36 pm

Flake wrote:Green Name = Town Prediction
Gray Name = Main PoE Pool

First number next to name given in Green is Town equity number, 10 meaning strongest Town equity, 0 meaning least Town equity
Second number next to name given in Red is Mafia equity number, 10 meaning strongest Mafia equity, 0 meaning least Mafia equity
Third number next to name given in Blue is SK equity number, 10 meaning strongest SK equity, 0 meaning least SK equity

Equity number of 5 always means approximately equal to the natural probability that they'd flip the alignment (11/15, 3/15, 1/15 for Town, Mafia, SK respectively)

UzayAltay (6, 4, 5)
Crimson97 (3, 7, 6)
Chemist1422 (6, 4, 5)
tfiosforevah (6, 4, 4)
cupcakeaj2 (7, 2, 5)
Dash2 (9, 2, 2)
Eragon1329 (5, 5, 5)
Rickdaily12 (4, 6, 4)
Qvapil (6, 4, 4)
GrumpyGoomba (5, 3, 6)
Zucker (8, 2, 4)
Flake (10, 0, 0)
Phone0Ix (5, 5, 4)
ProtoZigg (7, 4, 3)
ejjinami (5, 4, 6)


why don't we make that 6 6 6

;3

cuz im dancing with the devil
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:37 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:Flake walk me through Eragon

I think he's playing the same way he did in VFM45


i dont even remember which one that was

:BlobTea: :BlobTea:

Dash2 wrote:Rick you realize if SK dies early 2/3 of our power roles will be unusable


you realize that doesn't really matter

because we have the numbers

as long as SK dies today
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:38 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:By the way Rick, you said Flake was townie if I'm not mistaken, but besides getting into 2 arguments I can't really find much on him that's AI

It's more a meta read. Flake seems really natural and his progression feels pure to me. I agree that if we talk strictly about the substance that you wouldn't find much there, but based on how I've seen Flake carry himself in other games then he seems exactly like I normally see him to me.

I see. I got confused for a second.

Rickdaily12 wrote: From her point of view

Ok rick lowkey I have no idea why my gender was set on female but I'm actually a guy


Could also be teammystic set to female that rick remembers lol



Qvapil wrote:I was thinking a bit about the setup, and I believe lynching SK early benefits us simply because we reduce kpn. It's true that the prs are under mafia's control at that point but once we find a mafia member we'll have more options. I think having more townies alive (by reducing kpn) is more important than the prs, though take this with a grain of salt since I haven't played anything like this before.


I agree for a multitude of reasons
Main things
1)he KPN, which as chemistbhas previously said, puts us in a two sided mountainous with PR’s that become active N4
It’s townsided Becuase we would be at 10 v 3, which is pretty good numbers for a mountainous game
2) SK can still fuck with switched, either preventing mafia or preventing town, so getting rid of that gets rid of WIFOM

The problems
1) we have to lynch every mafia, instead of hoping the SK will scumhuny and kill them for us. Frankly, I don’t think this problem outweighs the benefit
2) we can’t stop mafia at all, again this is purely WIFOM



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Dash2 wrote:Lynching the SK is a controversial subject in this setup. Some people may want to utilize the PRs, while others believe that reducing the KPN is better than not having access to roles.

I was honestly on the former side, but thinking about it now, we have a ton of leads to go off of. Depending on today's flip, we could possibly easily be able to solve the game.


I think

if we Lynch the serial killer D1
its always worth it

but after D1
and on consequent days
lynching the serial killer gets worse and worse
because our numbers against mafia get lower
and we have no chance to kill them at night or reduce our PoE at night
which is what sk should try to do if they both survive and we mislynch
mafia can easily run away with this if there are too many 2 kill nights
but SK can kill mafia after they start getting a maj



these 2 posts are about lynching SK today

but not later
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Rickdaily12 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:38 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Flake walk me through Eragon

I think he's playing the same way he did in VFM45


i dont even remember which one that was

:BlobTea: :BlobTea:

Wasn't that Purgatory 2?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Crimson97 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:38 pm

Hmm i am being lynched over content? kk
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:39 pm

Crimson97 wrote:It has come to my attention after looking at the lastest vc our fine host 0verkill has posted that i am the top wagon. Nice.

Who tf is Qvaril btw?

Can you try
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Flake walk me through Eragon

I think he's playing the same way he did in VFM45


i dont even remember which one that was

:BlobTea: :BlobTea:

Wasn't that Purgatory 2?

Ye
Crimson97 wrote:Hmm i am being lynched over content? kk

And you're just okay with this?

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:40 pm

Also fun fact while looking for that picture I found a sprite of ralsei without glasses and it's kinda cursed tbh
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:40 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:0ver you missed my vote on tfios


also missed my vote on zucker

but its fine because thats just a stupidity vote

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Flake walk me through Eragon

I think he's playing the same way he did in VFM45


i dont even remember which one that was

:BlobTea: :BlobTea:

Wasn't that Purgatory 2?


probably
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Crimson97 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:44 pm

UzayAltay wrote:Btw with 10-15;post iso i can speak about all posts.
Crimson :
#3166921 : Actually even it is an entry post, it should be speaker about.
Wè discussed opening claims with flake , and they said two things : (PS: think é as e , i am on a very bad keyboard )
1) Zucker May be thinking it Will give them cred.
2) Tfios doing it as village meta.

There is sth off about Crimson, He dont have a spesific reason for them except create wifom (which is , Weird )
Cant say this is scummy, it just dont give me right vibe.
Or maybe,just maybe, it was a joke. Why is it weird to create WIFOM??

#3166923 :nai
#3166926 : nai
#3166929 : nai

#3166939 : nai for now, but i Will ask how this effect their reads later

#3166953 : nai
#3166966 : the Weird thing about this post is Not this post. He is thinking i am not towny, okay. But He never try to argue with the players TR me. Flake did that, pressured every single person for naked reads.
The stuff you had said until that point was NAI.

TBH Crimson acted like cycler which is behind of escape groop, even though He was fist to escape.

Later 3 post was nai.
Except maybe last one, i am not Remembering what He come with with digging.
Later 3 post = nai
Later 2 as well.
#3168440= pro-town, but probably nai.
Btw i should probably just pass not important
#3168470= Crimson, can you eloborate this more?
Yeah, i don't like how they are tunneling them.
#3168472= feels geniune

Last 3 post :Weird

What is the point of adding NAI posts?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:44 pm

Crimson frozen methinks
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Crimson97 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:46 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:Hmm i am being lynched over content? kk

And you're just okay with this?

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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:47 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:Hmm i am being lynched over content? kk

And you're just okay with this?

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No

then why did you say k
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Crimson97 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:48 pm

Dash2 wrote:Maybe try saying something instead of witty remarks. I already don't like your reaction

I am trying to read, please stand by.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Crimson97 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:48 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:Hmm i am being lynched over content? kk

And you're just okay with this?

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No

then why did you say k

Cause i think it's a poor case.
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Rickdaily12 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:48 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:Crimson frozen methinks

Okay, I don't know why it's taken me so long to ask this now, so let's just get this over with. In Secret Hitler, we describe two players, one of whom confirmed to be Fascist, in direct conflict with each other, to be "frozen", meaning, we never allow one of those two players to be President ever again until further notice/evidence otherwise.

When you guys use this term in the FM context, to what exactly are you referring to?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Crimson97 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:49 pm

Dash why are you voting me?
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:50 pm

secret hitler

do i even want to ask?
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