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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:00 pm

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heytheregirl17 wrote:Like I know Evan can be entropic, but he isn't petty
He has reasons for what he does



ehhh

he's pretty petty



HarperReed wrote:However Evan is being less than useful which isn't like Evan in the slightest, moreover it'll also give us information into this neighborhood that seems to keep changing it's own details each time they talk more of it


i mean

Evan/jal claimed masons
Flake and I revealed that all of us were in a neighborhood

nothing else changed?


Flake wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:
Flake wrote:"Inactivity kills your alignment more than you think"

... Oh shit we're screwed


heytheregirl17 wrote:
Flake wrote:htg what do you think of catgirl's slot

I'm not really happy with it, especially with one particular option one could interpret that vote manipulation as, has me tinfoiling as the second neutral
Otherwise just bad, Cow is the OG self-resolving player, but usually that entails that he does work to influence day play

right

now tell me why you're contradicting yourself


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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 8:00 pm

Jezz92 wrote:cupcakeaj2 has not responded to her prod so is being replaced out, however if she reclaims her spot before a replacement comes she’ll be given one more chance.

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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 8:02 pm

Flake claimed that nobody was confirmed in the neighborhood. So do you both not know if Evan and Jal are masons or not?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:02 pm

Royee wrote:
ZoruaLuhansk wrote:OK
Why does think a tension theif is so bad
Think of it as a delayed Roleblocker
It's not inherently anti-town unless that's the only blockbuster they have

A thief is leaning towards bad.
You are right about the last sentence. however eragon stealing from evan is random and unexplained. they even think its an unknown mason chat, then why steal from someone who you think is town?



HarperReed wrote:They didn't steal from Evan, allegedly the slot was empty at the time. Assuming this is true why would scum bother to steal from an inactive slot over an active one?


plus i wasn't sure about that slot being town
because literally
they had 9 posts

i was confident in flake/jal

and that was the loose end

plus theres benefit
that im not revealing yet
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:03 pm

HarperReed wrote:Flake claimed that nobody was confirmed in the neighborhood. So do you both not know if Evan and Jal are masons or not?


there are no masons

jal and evan decided to claim masons for

???

reasons



the truth is Flake, me, Evan, and Jalandh were in a neighborhood
no information
except the neighborhood
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Fri May 17, 2019 8:07 pm

HarperReed wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:
HarperReed wrote:You clearly lack the understanding of the character Olly claims they had as flavor. Double.

Who is the biggest associate to the Skullgirl and can be literally anyone.


However, Harper will throw out that Harper mentioned both double and Valentine as associates to SG on D1. So if a scum role can fake flips it is plausible to frame FML to town clear Olly. Granted that's just a tinfoil

Olly would have said it fron the start if they were and given fml the chance to actually play as a villager

I know That's a lie

Also incorrect, there is reason to withhold information on the result. Namely for those who assume it was a red check over a neutral one. Harper is unsure what came of that however.

Olly will need to come in and clarify on that, Olly has also called out two other flavors and neither countered the claim

I don't understand what you mean and if you look back at FML's iso they weren't framed. They seemed to give up
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:08 pm

Royee wrote:
ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
Royee wrote:
ZoruaLuhansk wrote:OK
Why does think a tension theif is so bad
Think of it as a delayed Roleblocker
It's not inherently anti-town unless that's the only blockbuster they have

A thief is leaning towards bad.

I think that you're just using the connotation of the word "theif"
Is an Vigilante bad if I described it as a murderer?
If I'm misunderstanding your logic, tell me.

vigilante = daredevil
daredevil = good
vigilante != evil


i remember i had a conversation about this a short while ago with someone

Basically, it depends on perception of the term.
think of any movie with a vigilante type person
Daredevil, Punisher, hell, even Batman

The movie makes you think they are "good guys," no?
this is purely because you are focused on the perspective of the vigilante themselves.
they feel that they are helping the town through killing "evil people"
and thats the moral of the story

but think about it from a common citizen's perspective, or anyone that doesn't know whats going on, like batman or the audience
They just know that someone is going around killing people because they had a tragic backstory and want revenge
this isn't "good"
they are still killing
its still illegal
they are just killing the connotated "bad guys"

like
it really depends on perspectives
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Fri May 17, 2019 8:09 pm

I was attacked n1 and n2 both resolved by Wabbit
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:10 pm

Flake wrote:i don't think evan flips scum based on gut alone


just depends on if scum!evan uses a brain ever

HarperReed wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
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OllyRenard wrote:
Royee wrote:Why are we lynching Evan?
is that because of this p3171637?

I think so plus their defense of FML I think I don't really know

I like evan he is a good noodle

They're literally a dead villager

How can there possibly be discussion on their alignment

He was a disguiser. That was a fake flip.

We dont know that for certain, you can't treat it as absolute truth. It's highly likely but not fact


its like
99% confirmed
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 8:11 pm

OllyRenard wrote:I was attacked n1 and n2 both resolved by Wabbit

As in Wabbit did the attack on behalf of the neutrals? Or just they're the one who gave the result?
Harper wants to know who ultimately pulled the trigger
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Fri May 17, 2019 8:11 pm

HarperReed wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:I was attacked n1 and n2 both resolved by Wabbit

As in Wabbit did the attack on behalf of the neutrals? Or just they're the one who gave the result?
Harper wants to know who ultimately pulled the trigger

No, I don't know who attacked I was just told I was. Wabbit was the one who informed me
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:13 pm

HarperReed wrote:Naturally that doesn't make them town, so far Olly seems more like a consig. The extent of their abilities can easily be a lie to only get a flavor name when they possibly get more.

Once more with the tinfoil, if the medici can falsify flips then FML definitely could have been framed


i could see this

i actually brought up a tinfoil about this to flake in the neighborhood chat a while back
but then i realized that its weak

and that olly is never the same alignment as FML

i thought that maybe olly could be a mafia role-cop that outed neutral!FML day 1
or vice versa

but its not a strong enough tinfoil to hold any bearings for me
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:15 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
HarperReed wrote:
ZoruaLuhansk wrote:ToS version:
Olly redchecks FML
FML claims Med, but flips Lookout
Evan mantains that FML is still town

Incorrect, Olly scum checked. Not red checked
Olly never said they were red, only scum

To be techinically ToS, "susp" checked.


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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 8:15 pm

That's what Harper thought, under the assumption that town would come forward about the attack we can assume it was a scum attack. However discussion would be which scum side if this is true, medici or SGs?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 8:17 pm

OllyRenard wrote:I was attacked n1 and n2 both resolved by Wabbit

I don't exactly know but
given the clusterf of vigilante shots/claims this game
IMO getting shot at is NAI
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:18 pm

HarperReed wrote:That's what Harper thought, under the assumption that town would come forward about the attack we can assume it was a scum attack. However discussion would be which scum side if this is true, medici or SGs?


why would town specifically come forward and claim the shot in thread?

thats like asking why wouldnt a vigilante claim their shot as soon as they shoot someone
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 8:19 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:I was attacked n1 and n2 both resolved by Wabbit

I don't exactly know but
given the clusterf of non-mafia killers shots/claims this game
IMO getting shot at is NAI

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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Fri May 17, 2019 8:20 pm

HarperReed wrote:That's what Harper thought, under the assumption that town would come forward about the attack we can assume it was a scum attack. However discussion would be which scum side if this is true, medici or SGs?

For context I also had my blockbusters disabled for a phase n1.

Pedit: I don't know why TK would hit me n1 maybe n2 but like really dude
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Fri May 17, 2019 8:21 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
HarperReed wrote:That's what Harper thought, under the assumption that town would come forward about the attack we can assume it was a scum attack. However discussion would be which scum side if this is true, medici or SGs?


why would town specifically come forward and claim the shot in thread?

thats like asking why wouldnt a vigilante claim their shot as soon as they shoot someone

You mean exactly how both Harper and PKR did on Debil?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 8:21 pm

OllyRenard wrote:
HarperReed wrote:That's what Harper thought, under the assumption that town would come forward about the attack we can assume it was a scum attack. However discussion would be which scum side if this is true, medici or SGs?

For context I also had my blockbusters disabled for a phase n1.

Pedit: I don't know why TK would hit me n1 maybe n2 but like really dude

I meant NK or TK
there's just seemed like a crazy amount of attacks this game
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:21 pm

OllyRenard wrote:
HarperReed wrote:That's what Harper thought, under the assumption that town would come forward about the attack we can assume it was a scum attack. However discussion would be which scum side if this is true, medici or SGs?

For context I also had my blockbusters disabled for a phase n1.

Pedit: I don't know why TK would hit me n1 maybe n2 but like really dude


well yea

i was more questioning the concept

and not the scenario
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Fri May 17, 2019 8:22 pm

I am almost certain that if FML is scum they are SG not medici. Given olly said they are double and all.
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Fri May 17, 2019 8:22 pm

no matter what olly's actual alignment is

FML is always Double and scum
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Fri May 17, 2019 8:24 pm

GrumpyGoomba wrote:I am almost certain that if FML is scum they are SG not medici. Given olly said they are double and all.

I can't accept Medici!FML unless there's evidence of a flip manipulator
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Fri May 17, 2019 8:28 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:I am almost certain that if FML is scum they are SG not medici. Given olly said they are double and all.

I can't accept Medici!FML unless there's evidence of a flip manipulator

And a ventriloquist if the ED comment from FML someone brought up is true
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