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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Thu May 16, 2019 1:39 pm

Flake wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Flake wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Flake wrote:eragon
evan
royee
htg
phone
tfios
zorua
betelgeuse
catgirl

this is poe for now imo

Evan but not jala?

you'll see

Trusting you

what do you feel about the potential neutral slip i mentioned, do you think it's telling?

If I understand it right I think so. The only problem is I believe FML was neutral and not mafia, does that change anything?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Thu May 16, 2019 1:40 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:we had a whole plan of Jesse, James, Meowth, and wubafett

but then jalandh left

and Evan is no

I see so you guys are all a thing then?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:40 pm

smoke that wood olly

I can smell it burning
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:41 pm

oh also

I was roleblocked last night
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Thu May 16, 2019 1:43 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:smoke that wood olly

I can smell it burning

Uh, I guess so
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:43 pm

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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby tfiosforevah » Thu May 16, 2019 1:46 pm

Flake wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Hmm... I just assumed that by red check he meant he found scum. Didn't really think into whether it was neutral or medici.

he didn't say red check

he said he got a scum check, but people assumed he meant red check, maybe implying said people knew it couldn't be a neutral check

maybe implying they are neutral

are you suggesting that potentially neutrals are cop immune, and that the people who said red check are implied to know that information, meaning they could potentially be the neutrals?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Betelgeuse44 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:48 pm

To be completely honest i'm lost. I don't really like Flake's tone though.
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:50 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
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ZoruaLuhansk wrote:Given the FML flip, I dislike Zucker for hard-opposing their lynch

Town!Seth is very likely to do that as town, he always goes for controversial reads and says "i KnOw thIs FLipS ToWn", see 17F and probably most games he's been in

Oh right Seth is unbanned
I've been gone for a long time

Flake wrote:I am most suspicious of Evan in that regard if anyone

The only problem is that would require Jal to be scum, since they claim to be masons
I'd need to reread to get a read on either of them


what do you think about this now that they are not claimed masons?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:50 pm

OllyRenard wrote:Both Zucker and Evan pushed away from FML lynch. The neutrals presumably know who each other are given the night chat d1

@Royee heh nothing personnel kid


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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:51 pm

Royee wrote:is eragon our top lynch today?


no

OllyRenard wrote:
Royee wrote:is eragon our top lynch today?

They are a dirty little thief


thief
slightly

good cause
yes

im like
fucking robin hood

or something
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:53 pm

Zucker wrote:Ok FML was Disguiser that targeted ED.

Also, Royee make a case on yourself for how your actually Town.


Rickdaily12 wrote:Don't self-meta. Especially, do NOT self-meta to argue that you're Town without being prompted to. I know this one always confuses people because a lot of people like to throw meta at each other and meta rebuttals, but if you're going to allow this and do this yourself then you render every meta argument you ever make as pointless.
Why, you might ask? Well, it's a very simple concept to grasp.
THE ENTIRE POINT TO META ARGUING IS THE POINT THAT [PLAYER X] IS NOT AWARE/ABLE TO STOP DOING [ACTION Y] AS [ALIGNMENT Z].
Too often I see so many arguments getting winded and dumb between people over the discourse of meta, and this point keeps tripping people up. It makes my eyes roll hard both as an in-game player and as a spectator. You cannot, especially when unprompted, argue how you are locked town for blah meta reasons. Especially when they only require interactions in the thread only. If you are fully aware of what you do as Town and how you behave as Town, you directly imply knowledge of how to act as Scum and can at least somewhat mimic it.
The moment anyone says "I'm Town if I do this, and I did this, proving that I'm Town", everything they say after this is bullshit. Even if it's true, even if it's genuine. Aside from being fakeable as hell, it's also a circular logic fallacy, which is a no-no. The reason any rational person gets tripped up in response to something as crazy as this is because you just took the time to admit you have knowledge on how to pass yourself as Town when you are Scum, and once we hit that point everything you say about your meta means nothing.
Which also brings as to a sub add-on:
Don't make someone else self-meta. At that point you're just being a jerk and you should admit not having any valid reason to read that person anymore.
Just let it go. Null read them and revisit that person when you have something more alignment indicative to read them on. Don't put them through this crap, it has a stupid amount of potential to launch into a nasty TvT suicide pact. Just save yourself a huge amount of suffering, whether you're the one doing it, or encouraging others to do it.
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:55 pm

Royee wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:It might've just been their inactivity but the little posts that they did make gave me scum vibes. Now that they have been replaced let us see what they have to offer. Also whom do you think should be our lynch candidate for today?

eragon


you literally

haven't mentioned my name

except

"is eragon our top Lynch target"

explain
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:58 pm

@olly does your "Flavor cop" or whatever stuff get affected by disruption-esque roles or is it 100% accurate
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 2:03 pm

also flake thank god you finally realized FML was actually scum

lmao

just because the mod says they cant lie

doesn't mean everything is true
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Thu May 16, 2019 2:04 pm

Flake wrote:harper when you said you were healed do you mean attacked and healed? or you just notified you were healed?

Healed, Harper lost health previously in a different phase
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Thu May 16, 2019 2:04 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:@olly does your "Flavor cop" or whatever stuff get affected by disruption-esque roles or is it 100% accurate

I'd presumably be affected by disruption. I'm not immune to redirection or roleblock
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 2:05 pm

OllyRenard wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:@olly does your "Flavor cop" or whatever stuff get affected by disruption-esque roles or is it 100% accurate

I'd presumably be affected by disruption. I'm not immune to redirection or roleblock


uhh I meant the other D-word

like

framer/miller/godfather/disguiser(FM version)/whatever the hell else there is
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 2:05 pm

@Wabbit:

When people die and flip, does the health on their role card show what they were at before the killing attack
or what does it show?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Royee » Thu May 16, 2019 2:06 pm

i mean evan claimed to red check you
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Royee » Thu May 16, 2019 2:07 pm

what if fml is a natural disguiser?
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby Eragon1329 » Thu May 16, 2019 2:07 pm

Royee wrote:i mean evan claimed to red check you


he's being a salty bitch because I claimed to him that I took one tension from him N1 when his slot was empty

he doesn't have an actual redcheck
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby HarperReed » Thu May 16, 2019 2:08 pm

Flake wrote:
HarperReed wrote:
Flake wrote:harper when you said you were healed do you mean attacked and healed? or you just notified you were healed?

Healed, Harper lost health previously in a different phase

oh? i wasn't aware, did you say it? or did i just overlook

Harper didn't mention it for a reason, however Harper is back to full again
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Thu May 16, 2019 2:08 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:@olly does your "Flavor cop" or whatever stuff get affected by disruption-esque roles or is it 100% accurate

I'd presumably be affected by disruption. I'm not immune to redirection or roleblock


uhh I meant the other D-word

like

framer/miller/godfather/disguiser(FM version)/whatever the hell else there is

I'm not sure
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Re: SFM58 | SG2E:FM | Day 3 (School's Out)

Postby OllyRenard » Thu May 16, 2019 2:10 pm

@Flake&Eragon So it isnt Mason? What are your reads on each other?
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