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NFM65 | Game Over (Two Steps Forward)

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:42 pm

NFM65
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Please read the rules below fully.

General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at the full Forum Mafia Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.


Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative: (Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout)
Town Protective: (Doctor/Bodyguard/Marshal)
Town Killing: (Vigilante/Veteran)
Town Support: (Medium/Escort)
Town Citizen: (Citizen)

Mafia Head: (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical: (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support: (Consigliere/Consort/Agent)
Mafia Deception: (Framer/Janitor/Disguiser/Prankster)

There will never be more than one Mafioso.
Citizen may only roll once in Random Town.
The random town can also not be a Town Killing role (Vigilante/Veteran).


Investigator Results
Spoiler: Citizen/Godfather
Sheriff/Marshal/Mafioso/Disguiser
Escort/Doctor/Consort/Prankster
Lookout/Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer/Agent
Investigator/Veteran/Medium/Consigliere/Janitor
Framer


Sheriff Results
Spoiler: Town and Godfather: Your target is not suspicious!
All other Mafia: Your target is a member of the Mafia!


Role List
    Town Investigative
    Town Protective
    Town Killing
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen


    Godfather
    Mafia Tactical/Support
    Random Mafia
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Re: NFM65 | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:46 pm

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  8. Kears123
  9. xUltiix

Graveyard:
My flavor ideas
Noveiia - Lynched Day 1 - Citizen
TheWabbit - Killed protecting his target Night 1 - Bodyguard
TheDebil - Killed by a bodyguard Night 1 - Godfather
Phone0Ix - Lynched Day 2 - Lookout

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Re: NFM65 | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:48 pm

Introduction and Mechanics


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia) duking it out. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-forward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team. While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • Day is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role being shown to the public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

**There are no whispers present in this game.
**There are no last wills or death notes in this game.
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up.


The game will only end once one of the major factions fulfills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending the host the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
For sending me Night actions or whatever, include "NFM65" in the subject line, it would also help if you included "Night Action" for your actions

Mafia Killing Revamp is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology

General terms:
Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it. For instance, saying "there are alot of people that are more important than me" may imply that you are softclaiming citizen. Make sure you have a plan in mind before attempting this.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors. If player X posts things that look like their a mafia member, you have a scumread on them!
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. For instance, if you think player Y wouldn't kill Z because Z townreads Y, but then realize that may well be a reason that Y would kill Z: to make people think Y isn't a mafia member, you've stumbled on WIFOM. Tread lightly.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose. Extremely subjective term not to be taken lightly.


Slightly more uncommon terms:
FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post what you think of other players regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.
Townies have no reason to lie and should never do it, in NFM. Spotting a lie can be almost as sure as spotting a mafia itself.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

FM Academy has further guidance to playing scum.

Golden Rules:
Don't self-vote without a good reason.
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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If you ever feel anxious playing FM, like most people do every single time they play, look at yourself and realize things aren't so bad. As long as you are having fun it's always worth it. Don't be scared to post.

For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: NFM65 | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:49 pm

Important differences between FM and ToS

Lynches
    Unlike ToS, there is no Trial Phase in FM.
    Once a player has received a majority of the votes, they are immediately lynched. There are no guilty and innocent votes.
    In addition, if day ends without a player receiving a majority of votes, the player with the most votes will be lynched. This is called a plurality lynch.
    If there are multiple players with the same number of votes at the end of the day, the player that reached that many votes first will be lynched.

Mafia Kills
    Each night, any player in the mafia may perform the kill
    If they choose to perform the kill, they aren't allowed to use any of their other actions
    As such, there is no requirement for a Godfather or Mafioso to be alive, and there is no role promotion

Mafia Chat
    The mafia are able to communicate privately with each other at all times
    This allows them to talk in their own chat during both day and night

Citizens
    Many members of the town will have no night ability to use at all
    This is because in FM, the game is focused more on finding scum during the day based on behavior
    This also means that as a power role, you will usually want to avoid being killed early in the game

Last Wills/Death Notes
    There are no death notes or last wills in FM
    As such, if you die with important information that hasn't been revealed, that information dies with you
    Choose wisely when you want to reveal information, as you may die without getting more if you reveal too soon, or die before revealing any if you wait too long
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Re: NFM65 | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat May 18, 2019 8:52 am

Rolecards will go out later today. Reply to your rolecard within 24 hours of it being sent or you will be replaced.
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Re: NFM65 | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat May 18, 2019 7:16 pm

Rolecards going out now.
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Re: NFM65 | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat May 18, 2019 7:28 pm

All rolecards have been sent.
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Re: NFM65 | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 20, 2019 6:11 am

dota2reporter will be replacing JuvenileFourtyTwo.
spiderpoolcorps will be replacing Alt43.
TheWabbit will be replacing RickTn1.

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Re: NFM65 | Setup

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 20, 2019 9:52 am

I was gonna do flavor but didn't feel like confusing the newbies, maybe next time (if there is one).

Day 1 begins! It will end

Reminder that there is a lynch today, and to go over the first few posts again just to make sure you know what you're doing. Good luck and have fun!
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby dota2reporter » Mon May 20, 2019 9:54 am

FIRST POST

lynch chemist for the memes

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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon May 20, 2019 9:55 am

Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby dota2reporter » Mon May 20, 2019 9:56 am

wait... you're my alt account then?
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby dota2reporter » Mon May 20, 2019 9:59 am

whatever

sup everyone, i barely know most of you, so i'll tell ya i played fm and was terrible at it, but had like a 90% winrate for some reason
i remember nothing about the games though, sooo that's that
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am

Ah fuck he got us. We will get him next time dota. He just uno reverse carded us...
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am

Also hello people. Your friendly neighborhood goomba here.
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby dota2reporter » Mon May 20, 2019 10:30 am

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Ah fuck he got us. We will get him next time dota. He just uno reverse carded us...

i did not think it would be possible... the FM hosts are imbalanced, nerf pls
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 20, 2019 10:35 am

Yosh... hosts too op
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby dota2reporter » Mon May 20, 2019 10:49 am

i'm actually not gonna unvote because i'm that savage (not)
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 20, 2019 10:51 am

Ah fk it me too

/vote Chemist

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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby dota2reporter » Mon May 20, 2019 10:53 am

lmao, what if everyone did that by the end of the day

i mean, that wouldnt be productive and stuff, but it would be hilarious. i doubt others would agree to it though, fm is kinda serious
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby spiderpoolcorps » Mon May 20, 2019 10:58 am

H e l o people

I recognise a few out of 18B too
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby NightmareMoon » Mon May 20, 2019 11:00 am

'sup dorks
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 20, 2019 11:01 am

Yosh
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby dota2reporter » Mon May 20, 2019 11:02 am

good evening, human beings!
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Re: NFM65 | Day 1 (No Flavor)

Postby GrumpyGoomba » Mon May 20, 2019 11:03 am

Wait we have humans here?
We have been infiltrated! Weed out the spies!!
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