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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:34 pm
by hereisme
Jalandh wrote:
hereisme wrote:How many claims are there now?
I feel like I've read more than 5.
And Jal changed theirs so I might just be remembering that.


Already gave a reason why.

Also Triangular changed theirs three times if you wanna argue it was scum thing to do :^)

:shock:
I wasn't saying that mate.
I'm saying that might be why I remember extra claims LoL

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:36 pm
by Jalandh
hereisme wrote:
Jalandh wrote:
hereisme wrote:How many claims are there now?
I feel like I've read more than 5.
And Jal changed theirs so I might just be remembering that.


Already gave a reason why.

Also Triangular changed theirs three times if you wanna argue it was scum thing to do :^)

:shock:
I wasn't saying that mate.
I'm saying that might be why I remember extra claims LoL


Lol sadly its not extra claims at all

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:39 pm
by EvilDeanius0
What if Wabbit got redirected onto someone else? Then Elusive's redirect wouldn't have happened, and Wabbit would only have gotten the one message.

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:39 pm
by hereisme
Jalandh wrote:Lol sadly its not extra claims at all

It's felt like a lot of claims, but whatever happened last night kind of called for it.
This is giving me 17B ptsd...

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:40 pm
by ElusiveBelle
The only claims so far should be myself, jaland, wabbit, and PKR, technically linear and Soul I guess? If you want to be technical

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:41 pm
by ElusiveBelle
EvilDeanius0 wrote:What if Wabbit got redirected onto someone else? Then Elusive's redirect wouldn't have happened, and Wabbit would only have gotten the one message.

This is possible, unless triangle was on them as Jaland claims

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:42 pm
by Transcender
ElusiveBelle wrote:The only claims so far should be myself, jaland, wabbit, and PKR, technically linear and Soul I guess? If you want to be technical

we are slowly going towards a massclaim tbh

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:42 pm
by hereisme
ElusiveBelle wrote:The only claims so far should be myself, jaland, wabbit, and PKR, technically linear and Soul I guess? If you want to be technical

And Watt too because of seeing PKR.
I dunno, I've gotta go eat something.
Then I'll read through today again.

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:44 pm
by ElusiveBelle
hereisme wrote:
ElusiveBelle wrote:The only claims so far should be myself, jaland, wabbit, and PKR, technically linear and Soul I guess? If you want to be technical

And Watt too because of seeing PKR.
I dunno, I've gotta go eat something.
Then I'll read through today again.

Right, and technically leet

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:55 pm
by Seththeking
Elusive is Fake.
He is claiming a Gen 4 Role when all Roles are Gen 1.
Watch the host refuse to answer his question they won’t even say denie it.

@Hosts is it only Gen 1 that can flip?

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:00 pm
by ElusiveBelle
Seththeking wrote:Elusive is Fake.
He is claiming a Gen 4 Role when all Roles are Gen 1.
Watch the host refuse to answer his question they won’t even say denie it.

@Hosts is it only Gen 1 that can flip?

Did you miss that delibird isn't gen 1? Which is what leet is all but claiming? That's the assumption anyways with their "gift"

That and my action is all but confirmed at this point? As well as Wabbits.

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:11 pm
by Jalandh
ElusiveBelle wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:What if Wabbit got redirected onto someone else? Then Elusive's redirect wouldn't have happened, and Wabbit would only have gotten the one message.

This is possible, unless triangle was on them as Jaland claims


It depends on which redirect goes first

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:14 pm
by ElusiveBelle
Also true, evolution line could have something to do with that

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:15 pm
by Multiuniverse
Can we like stop flavour arguments

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:17 pm
by ElusiveBelle
ElusiveBelle wrote:Also true, evolution line could have something to do with that

Likely not in this case, but can be in play to prevent conflicts should there be a scum redirector

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:26 pm
by LinearPoint
The longer this goes on the more confused last night becomes.

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:27 pm
by Soulshade55r
What flavor did elusive claim

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:34 pm
by ElusiveBelle
Soulshade55r wrote:What flavor did elusive claim

Mime Jr, can evolve n3

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:37 pm
by LinearPoint
I'ma just collect some stuff.

Wabbit - gifted a roleblock Elusive, but ended up getting a roleblock himself
Elusive - forced Wabbit to visit Wabbit
leet - gave Jal an item
Jal - stole from Wabbit, but was redirected to Triangle. Was also pranked to not get told he was redirected.
Watt - Saw PKR visit Triangle twice
PKR - Strongmanized Triangle
Traingle - Presumably redirected all visitors to Wabbit onto himself due to the weird PKR double visit and Jal claiming to have stolen Triangle's role.


So the question becomes.
Why was Wabbit not redirected to Triangle if he self visited?
The only thing that makes sense to me was that Elusive's action had very late priority and happens after Triangle would have used his role.
The theory that Wabbit was Mafia and visited Elusive who was also Mafia knowing he would be redirected to himself does not make sense. As if this was the case then Wabbit would have known something went wrong as he would not have gotten the 1-shot roleblock as they planned since Triangle was on him.

No matter how I look at it I think Elusive's redirect had priority over Triangle's redirect.
The only other option is Jal is just lying about Triangle having been on Wabbit or something strange happened to Jal last night and the redirect notification was not passed to him for some reason.
Since Jal did get feedback from leet it's possible leet is a Prankster and made an oopsie accidentally replacing Jal's redirected night result with something that would make leet confirmed town.
It also could mean PKR is a Silencer who accidentally silenced Triangle because of the redirect.

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:43 pm
by LinearPoint
I do think we need PKR to flip.
If PKR is some role that silences feedback then this makes things a lot more clear.

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:48 pm
by Seththeking
LinearPoint wrote:I do think we need PKR to flip.
If PKR is some role that silences feedback then this makes things a lot more clear.


Ah true.

/Vote PKR

The only ones that are pretty much clear are Soulshade, Watt and LP.

LP is Mini Mayor
Soul is Innocent Child
Watt is Tracker Ability

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:56 pm
by LinearPoint
I mean if anyone is a mayor it'd be sould. IC is a lot closer than Doublevoter.
Doublevoter is more akin to a Town Citizen.

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:57 pm
by ElusiveBelle
Mine had to have had priority, wabbit would not have visited themselves otherwise.

Also Wabbit doesn't gift, he gains an ability based off the player they target. IE targeting a support have them a TS ability

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:58 pm
by Seththeking
LinearPoint wrote:I mean if anyone is a mayor it'd be sould. IC is a lot closer than Doublevoter.
Doublevoter is more akin to a Town Citizen.


Yeah well because your vote counts as 2 your pretty much innocent.

Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:59 pm
by ElusiveBelle
Also I'm not sold that Triangle was on Wabbit, neither Wabbit nor jaland got the redirect message to confirm that