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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby hereisme » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:34 pm

Jalandh wrote:
hereisme wrote:How many claims are there now?
I feel like I've read more than 5.
And Jal changed theirs so I might just be remembering that.


Already gave a reason why.

Also Triangular changed theirs three times if you wanna argue it was scum thing to do :^)

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I wasn't saying that mate.
I'm saying that might be why I remember extra claims LoL
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby Jalandh » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:36 pm

hereisme wrote:
Jalandh wrote:
hereisme wrote:How many claims are there now?
I feel like I've read more than 5.
And Jal changed theirs so I might just be remembering that.


Already gave a reason why.

Also Triangular changed theirs three times if you wanna argue it was scum thing to do :^)

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I wasn't saying that mate.
I'm saying that might be why I remember extra claims LoL


Lol sadly its not extra claims at all
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:39 pm

What if Wabbit got redirected onto someone else? Then Elusive's redirect wouldn't have happened, and Wabbit would only have gotten the one message.
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby hereisme » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:39 pm

Jalandh wrote:Lol sadly its not extra claims at all

It's felt like a lot of claims, but whatever happened last night kind of called for it.
This is giving me 17B ptsd...
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:40 pm

The only claims so far should be myself, jaland, wabbit, and PKR, technically linear and Soul I guess? If you want to be technical
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:41 pm

EvilDeanius0 wrote:What if Wabbit got redirected onto someone else? Then Elusive's redirect wouldn't have happened, and Wabbit would only have gotten the one message.

This is possible, unless triangle was on them as Jaland claims
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby Descender » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:42 pm

ElusiveBelle wrote:The only claims so far should be myself, jaland, wabbit, and PKR, technically linear and Soul I guess? If you want to be technical

we are slowly going towards a massclaim tbh
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby hereisme » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:42 pm

ElusiveBelle wrote:The only claims so far should be myself, jaland, wabbit, and PKR, technically linear and Soul I guess? If you want to be technical

And Watt too because of seeing PKR.
I dunno, I've gotta go eat something.
Then I'll read through today again.
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:44 pm

hereisme wrote:
ElusiveBelle wrote:The only claims so far should be myself, jaland, wabbit, and PKR, technically linear and Soul I guess? If you want to be technical

And Watt too because of seeing PKR.
I dunno, I've gotta go eat something.
Then I'll read through today again.

Right, and technically leet
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby Seththeking » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:55 pm

Elusive is Fake.
He is claiming a Gen 4 Role when all Roles are Gen 1.
Watch the host refuse to answer his question they won’t even say denie it.

@Hosts is it only Gen 1 that can flip?
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:00 pm

Seththeking wrote:Elusive is Fake.
He is claiming a Gen 4 Role when all Roles are Gen 1.
Watch the host refuse to answer his question they won’t even say denie it.

@Hosts is it only Gen 1 that can flip?

Did you miss that delibird isn't gen 1? Which is what leet is all but claiming? That's the assumption anyways with their "gift"

That and my action is all but confirmed at this point? As well as Wabbits.
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby Jalandh » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:11 pm

ElusiveBelle wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:What if Wabbit got redirected onto someone else? Then Elusive's redirect wouldn't have happened, and Wabbit would only have gotten the one message.

This is possible, unless triangle was on them as Jaland claims


It depends on which redirect goes first
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:14 pm

Also true, evolution line could have something to do with that
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby Multiuniverse » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:15 pm

Can we like stop flavour arguments

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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:17 pm

ElusiveBelle wrote:Also true, evolution line could have something to do with that

Likely not in this case, but can be in play to prevent conflicts should there be a scum redirector
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby LinearPoint » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:26 pm

The longer this goes on the more confused last night becomes.
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby Soulshade55r » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:27 pm

What flavor did elusive claim
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:34 pm

Soulshade55r wrote:What flavor did elusive claim

Mime Jr, can evolve n3
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby LinearPoint » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:37 pm

I'ma just collect some stuff.

Wabbit - gifted a roleblock Elusive, but ended up getting a roleblock himself
Elusive - forced Wabbit to visit Wabbit
leet - gave Jal an item
Jal - stole from Wabbit, but was redirected to Triangle. Was also pranked to not get told he was redirected.
Watt - Saw PKR visit Triangle twice
PKR - Strongmanized Triangle
Traingle - Presumably redirected all visitors to Wabbit onto himself due to the weird PKR double visit and Jal claiming to have stolen Triangle's role.


So the question becomes.
Why was Wabbit not redirected to Triangle if he self visited?
The only thing that makes sense to me was that Elusive's action had very late priority and happens after Triangle would have used his role.
The theory that Wabbit was Mafia and visited Elusive who was also Mafia knowing he would be redirected to himself does not make sense. As if this was the case then Wabbit would have known something went wrong as he would not have gotten the 1-shot roleblock as they planned since Triangle was on him.

No matter how I look at it I think Elusive's redirect had priority over Triangle's redirect.
The only other option is Jal is just lying about Triangle having been on Wabbit or something strange happened to Jal last night and the redirect notification was not passed to him for some reason.
Since Jal did get feedback from leet it's possible leet is a Prankster and made an oopsie accidentally replacing Jal's redirected night result with something that would make leet confirmed town.
It also could mean PKR is a Silencer who accidentally silenced Triangle because of the redirect.
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby LinearPoint » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:43 pm

I do think we need PKR to flip.
If PKR is some role that silences feedback then this makes things a lot more clear.
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby Seththeking » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:48 pm

LinearPoint wrote:I do think we need PKR to flip.
If PKR is some role that silences feedback then this makes things a lot more clear.


Ah true.

/Vote PKR

The only ones that are pretty much clear are Soulshade, Watt and LP.

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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby LinearPoint » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:56 pm

I mean if anyone is a mayor it'd be sould. IC is a lot closer than Doublevoter.
Doublevoter is more akin to a Town Citizen.
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:57 pm

Mine had to have had priority, wabbit would not have visited themselves otherwise.

Also Wabbit doesn't gift, he gains an ability based off the player they target. IE targeting a support have them a TS ability
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby Seththeking » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:58 pm

LinearPoint wrote:I mean if anyone is a mayor it'd be sould. IC is a lot closer than Doublevoter.
Doublevoter is more akin to a Town Citizen.


Yeah well because your vote counts as 2 your pretty much innocent.
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Re: SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | (Day 2)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:59 pm

Also I'm not sold that Triangle was on Wabbit, neither Wabbit nor jaland got the redirect message to confirm that
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