SFM57 | Pokemon FM 4 | Over ig

[leeten]

so cool story, we're waffling and probably going to lynch google

should probably lynch jamez and mario, no scum im not a cop im just good

[TheWabbit]

thats sad
now soul will survive till the end

[TheWabbit]

so cool story, we're waffling and probably going to lynch google

should probably lynch jamez and mario, no scum im not a cop im just good

wowowowowow

[TheWabbit]

as mario's scumbuddy im not lynching mario today

[heytheregirl17]

Oh I guess I didn't respond to it
For some reason I thought I did
Will do after work

Also Google being a PL doesn't make him not scummy af.

He's basically an ok lynch
It's like someone who everyone would agree lynching no matter his alignment since hes basically negative utility as town anyway
Which makes it dirt easy to lynch him and an easy target to make it looks like you're contributing by scumreading people and leading lynches

There's 4 scums left rn, give me the other 3 names with reasoning

But I gave actual reasons that aren't "let's pl this bitch he sucks"

Assuming a Google scum flip here, scumteam from my POV is likely:
Multi: Your defense of google is really flat; you're leveraging a scumread on me, while also trying to argue that we shouldn't lynch him because it's too easy. You're also defending him with no consideration for his role claim or anything he's actually done this game.
One of James/Seth: Every word that has come out of Seth's mouth since d2 is LAMIST fluff, but interactions dictate that if Multi scum with Google and Seth, Seth isn't scum with James. Seth is in a position that he can say pretty much whatever and nobody's going to take him seriously so I think he is capable of false-bussing Multi OR James, but I don't think he'd choose to do both. James seemed ok for a while but is progressively dropping due to weird pressure response. Nexus-style claim isn't super convincing and/or the idea doesn't seem fully formed as a claim, but that may be a semantics issue. I think Seth is the more likely mafia in the pair.
One lowposter: within royee/hereisme/MAYBE leeten/MAYBE tfios
Royee's easily the scummiest of the three; every time he pops in he just says something really, really dumb or blatantly agenda-y, but hereisme's disappointing thread presence is something I'd like to keep an eye on. I think tfios is townier than usual but I honestly am not confident in my read skill on that kid. Leeten's giving me Chemist style EZ town vibes but some agenda may be present as well

for my reference, towncore is:
Wabbit: Until a transporter or another redirective claims a conflicting action or flips, Wabbit's clear for receiving a double target from the mafia.
Jalandh: Ability and results claimed are legitimized.
Soul: duh

[heytheregirl17]

Fuck I mixed up isos
Seth unlikely to bus both Google and Jamez.

[Seththeking]

Oh I guess I didn't respond to it
For some reason I thought I did
Will do after work

Also Google being a PL doesn't make him not scummy af.

He's basically an ok lynch
It's like someone who everyone would agree lynching no matter his alignment since hes basically negative utility as town anyway
Which makes it dirt easy to lynch him and an easy target to make it looks like you're contributing by scumreading people and leading lynches

There's 4 scums left rn, give me the other 3 names with reasoning

But I gave actual reasons that aren't "let's pl this bitch he sucks"

Assuming a Google scum flip here, scumteam from my POV is likely:
Multi: Your defense of google is really flat; you're leveraging a scumread on me, while also trying to argue that we shouldn't lynch him because it's too easy. You're also defending him with no consideration for his role claim or anything he's actually done this game.
One of James/Seth: Every word that has come out of Seth's mouth since d2 is LAMIST fluff, but interactions dictate that if Multi scum with Google and Seth, Seth isn't scum with James. Seth is in a position that he can say pretty much whatever and nobody's going to take him seriously so I think he is capable of false-bussing Multi OR James, but I don't think he'd choose to do both. James seemed ok for a while but is progressively dropping due to weird pressure response. Nexus-style claim isn't super convincing and/or the idea doesn't seem fully formed as a claim, but that may be a semantics issue. I think Seth is the more likely mafia in the pair.
One lowposter: within royee/hereisme/MAYBE leeten/MAYBE tfios
Royee's easily the scummiest of the three; every time he pops in he just says something really, really dumb or blatantly agenda-y, but hereisme's disappointing thread presence is something I'd like to keep an eye on. I think tfios is townier than usual but I honestly am not confident in my read skill on that kid. Leeten's giving me Chemist style EZ town vibes but some agenda may be present as well

for my reference, towncore is:
Wabbit: Until a transporter or another redirective claims a conflicting action or flips, Wabbit's clear for receiving a double target from the mafia.
Jalandh: Ability and results claimed are legitimized.
Soul: duh

First off, the towncore is already pretty much confirmed.
Second off, what else would Magikarp do? If you actually think Splashing someone is scummy then I don’t know what to tell you.

[Seththeking]

Fuck I mixed up isos
Seth unlikely to bus both Google and Jamez.

Yet you’d lynch a Magikarp over a Mr.Mime like ability claim?

[heytheregirl17]

Fuck I mixed up isos
Seth unlikely to bus both Google and Jamez.

Yet you’d lynch a Magikarp over a Mr.Mime like ability claim?

Elusive's dead so IDK what you're talking about. And yes I'd lynch you over Elusive with claims only, any day.

for my reference, towncore is:
Wabbit: Until a transporter or another redirective claims a conflicting action or flips, Wabbit's clear for receiving a double target from the mafia.
Jalandh: Ability and results claimed are legitimized.
Soul: duh

First off, the towncore is already pretty much confirmed.
Second off, what else would Magikarp do? If you actually think Splashing someone is scummy then I don’t know what to tell you.

1. that's the fucking point of having a towncore
2. GOD DAMNIT
like I know you're likely to be full of shit but that somehow doesn't stop you from just continuing to drill
I know what you're claiming. You can stop now.

[Seththeking]

Fuck I mixed up isos
Seth unlikely to bus both Google and Jamez.

Yet you’d lynch a Magikarp over a Mr.Mime like ability claim?

Elusive's dead so IDK what you're talking about. And yes I'd lynch you over Elusive with claims only, any day.

for my reference, towncore is:
Wabbit: Until a transporter or another redirective claims a conflicting action or flips, Wabbit's clear for receiving a double target from the mafia.
Jalandh: Ability and results claimed are legitimized.
Soul: duh

First off, the towncore is already pretty much confirmed.
Second off, what else would Magikarp do? If you actually think Splashing someone is scummy then I don’t know what to tell you.

1. that's the fucking point of having a towncore
2. GOD DAMNIT
like I know you're likely to be full of shit but that somehow doesn't stop you from just continuing to drill
I know what you're claiming. You can stop now.

I was talking about Jamezbeast not Elusive.
Stop claiming my role? But it’s the best meme ever!
Also in case you are thinking I’m fake claiming this then you might want to look at my first few posts.
If I didn’t get Magikarp I would never have posted them.

[heytheregirl17]

Fuck I mixed up isos
Seth unlikely to bus both Google and Jamez.

Yet you’d lynch a Magikarp over a Mr.Mime like ability claim?

Elusive's dead so IDK what you're talking about. And yes I'd lynch you over Elusive with claims only, any day.

for my reference, towncore is:
Wabbit: Until a transporter or another redirective claims a conflicting action or flips, Wabbit's clear for receiving a double target from the mafia.
Jalandh: Ability and results claimed are legitimized.
Soul: duh

First off, the towncore is already pretty much confirmed.
Second off, what else would Magikarp do? If you actually think Splashing someone is scummy then I don’t know what to tell you.

1. that's the fucking point of having a towncore
2. GOD DAMNIT
like I know you're likely to be full of shit but that somehow doesn't stop you from just continuing to drill
I know what you're claiming. You can stop now.

I was talking about Jamezbeast not Elusive.
Stop claiming my role? But it’s the best meme ever!
Also in case you are thinking I’m fake claiming this then you might want to look at my first few posts.
If I didn’t get Magikarp I would never have posted them.

ugh it's a trainwreck where do i even start
like how did you get mr mime (elusive's flip) out of james claiming redirective

and your argument about your first post
hooooooooly shit
"if i wasn't this role i wouldn't have hardclaimed it"

[Seththeking]

Fuck I mixed up isos
Seth unlikely to bus both Google and Jamez.

Yet you’d lynch a Magikarp over a Mr.Mime like ability claim?

Elusive's dead so IDK what you're talking about. And yes I'd lynch you over Elusive with claims only, any day.

for my reference, towncore is:
Wabbit: Until a transporter or another redirective claims a conflicting action or flips, Wabbit's clear for receiving a double target from the mafia.
Jalandh: Ability and results claimed are legitimized.
Soul: duh

First off, the towncore is already pretty much confirmed.
Second off, what else would Magikarp do? If you actually think Splashing someone is scummy then I don’t know what to tell you.

1. that's the fucking point of having a towncore
2. GOD DAMNIT
like I know you're likely to be full of shit but that somehow doesn't stop you from just continuing to drill
I know what you're claiming. You can stop now.

I was talking about Jamezbeast not Elusive.
Stop claiming my role? But it’s the best meme ever!
Also in case you are thinking I’m fake claiming this then you might want to look at my first few posts.
If I didn’t get Magikarp I would never have posted them.

ugh it's a trainwreck where do i even start
like how did you get mr mime (elusive's flip) out of james claiming redirective

and your argument about your first post
hooooooooly shit
"if i wasn't this role i wouldn't have hardclaimed it"

Pretty sure LP was saying Jamezbeast was Mafia Version Of Mr.Mime or Brick’s role I honestly don’t remember but I know it’s a sorta copy of a dead town member.
What’s wrong with "if i wasn't this role i wouldn't have hardclaimed it"
It’s like your purposely trying to call me out as scum.
Despite it being almost impossible for me to be scum.
Because I can only visit myself and I’m Magikarp.
Investigating abilities can confirm me.
So I’d watch what you say because if an Investigative ability participant outs me as Magikarp/Using Splash.
Then you may receive lots of questions.
So tell me again, why exactly do you think I’m scum if Google flips?
Because for starters I said Google was Scum way before you did and he was also the first player I called out.
I recently thing Jamezbeast is also Scum based upon everything that has happened.
So give me your honest answer. Why do you think I’m scum?

[Seththeking]

Also keep in Mind I voted for PKR.
I voted with LP.
You didn’t vote PKR and Google refused to.
I’d put you, Google and Jamezbeast more probable then Myself and Google even if I wasn’t the one in this scenario.

[heytheregirl17]

Holy fuck tone shift
and yet I can't take you seriously I honestly can't

Pretty sure LP was saying Jamezbeast was Mafia Version Of Mr.Mime or Brick’s role I honestly don’t remember but I know it’s a sorta copy of a dead town member. I'm pretty sure Linear has no idea what's going on.
What’s wrong with "if i wasn't this role i wouldn't have hardclaimed it" Because any alignment can hardclaim and PKR's flip suggests mafia is likely to have safeclaims, making the argument that you hardclaimed your "role" completely irrelevant.
It’s like your purposely trying to call me out as scum. ... You think I'm doing this on accident?
Despite it being almost impossible for me to be scum. how the fuck is it almost impossible, nothing you say after this and nothing you have said this game "confirms" you
Because I can only visit myself and I’m Magikarp.
Investigating abilities can confirm me. We're not wasting investigatives on this. Also the fact that you visit yourself doesn't even really confirm your role, a lot of roles could potentially target themselves. It doesn't even confirm your alignment. The only thing it does is confirms you have an action.
So I’d watch what you say because if an Investigative ability participant outs me as Magikarp/Using Splash.
Then you may receive lots of questions. and then i won't answer them like literally the entire living playerlist /s
but seriously you're threatening that you're going to push me if i'm wrong about something you literally cannot confirm without a cop check?
So tell me again, why exactly do you think I’m scum if Google flips? It's less of an association of Google than an independent TvS with Jamez.
Because for starters I said Google was Scum way before you did and he was also the first player I called out. first only counts in kindergarten and NASCAR. I was planning on pushing Google after d2's lynch (hence my night action claim) and I would have done so first if I didn't work 50 hours a week and not have working mobile data. Being first to pressure something means nothing. Being first to case it is what really counts.
I recently thing Jamezbeast is also Scum based upon everything that has happened. "everything that has happened"
So give me your honest answer. Why do you think I’m scum?i refer you to my response to multi, my arguments have not changed

Also keep in Mind I voted for PKR. Everyone and their mother voted PKR. That's because PKR was fucking confscum.
I voted with LP. so did the rest of that entire wagon. because linear was on it. you aren't special
You didn’t vote PKR and Google refused to. I clearly stated intent to vote but never placed the vote because I was waiting on answers to questions which I never received. I would have gladly hammered given the information I had requested, but I was not ready to end the day. I had reasons to be off the wagon. That does not mean I did not support the wagon itself.
I’d put you, Google and Jamezbeast more probable then Myself and Google even if I wasn’t the one in this scenario. this argument is biased

[heytheregirl17]

I have a bad feeling there could be coaching going on here

[LinearPoint]

I mean yeah Jamez sounds to be telling the truth.
But the role he is describing sounds like it's Mafia.

[Jamezbeast]

Hmmm. Well I can't argue with the role argument; it makes sense, however, it's a bad reason to lynch me because I) I claimed after Elusives flip, and I did kinda soft I had some way to change targets during D2.

Ii) This game is role madness so saying I'm a "mafia version" of a certain role is p closed minded.


Also, Royee is refusing to defend themselves at all.

Seth is trying to indicate that voting for confirmed scum somehow makes them townie; and this is completely untrue//doesn't make sense from a town PoV.

Htg; the reverse of your coaching argument was what first made me want to clear Google. I would also like hereisme to just get here, lol.

[Jamezbeast]

However, my mind flip flops between Seth being town and scum like every 5 minutes, and I could write an entire analysis on this but the long and short of it is: they're objectively scummy but it doesn't make sense for them to scum.

[Multiuniverse]

Oh I guess I didn't respond to it
For some reason I thought I did
Will do after work

Also Google being a PL doesn't make him not scummy af.

He's basically an ok lynch
It's like someone who everyone would agree lynching no matter his alignment since hes basically negative utility as town anyway
Which makes it dirt easy to lynch him and an easy target to make it looks like you're contributing by scumreading people and leading lynches

There's 4 scums left rn, give me the other 3 names with reasoning

But I gave actual reasons that aren't "let's pl this bitch he sucks"

Assuming a Google scum flip here, scumteam from my POV is likely:
Multi: Your defense of google is really flat; you're leveraging a scumread on me, while also trying to argue that we shouldn't lynch him because it's too easy. You're also defending him with no consideration for his role claim or anything he's actually done this game.
One of James/Seth: Every word that has come out of Seth's mouth since d2 is LAMIST fluff, but interactions dictate that if Multi scum with Google and Seth, Seth isn't scum with James. Seth is in a position that he can say pretty much whatever and nobody's going to take him seriously so I think he is capable of false-bussing Multi OR James, but I don't think he'd choose to do both. James seemed ok for a while but is progressively dropping due to weird pressure response. Nexus-style claim isn't super convincing and/or the idea doesn't seem fully formed as a claim, but that may be a semantics issue. I think Seth is the more likely mafia in the pair.
One lowposter: within royee/hereisme/MAYBE leeten/MAYBE tfios
Royee's easily the scummiest of the three; every time he pops in he just says something really, really dumb or blatantly agenda-y, but hereisme's disappointing thread presence is something I'd like to keep an eye on. I think tfios is townier than usual but I honestly am not confident in my read skill on that kid. Leeten's giving me Chemist style EZ town vibes but some agenda may be present as well

for my reference, towncore is:
Wabbit: Until a transporter or another redirective claims a conflicting action or flips, Wabbit's clear for receiving a double target from the mafia.
Jalandh: Ability and results claimed are legitimized.
Soul: duh

You're literally omgusing me. Im not even defending Google Im just saying you have more scum equity than them.

Cant judge seth since I still have them foed. Your argument on Jamez is fine I guess since they've been sidelining a bit.

Also isnt leeten gunsmith or smth

[Multiuniverse]

I understand htg's frustration at seth to a spiritual level

[Transcender]

Fuck I mixed up isos
Seth unlikely to bus both Google and Jamez.

you underestimate seth's ability to be stupid

[Transcender]

ive kind of sort of given up at life and I just looked through muiltiple pages to find nothing I can put my take on and I just want to do a no

[TheWabbit]

Also keep in Mind I voted for PKR.
I voted with LP.
You didn’t vote PKR and Google refused to.
I’d put you, Google and Jamezbeast more probable then Myself and Google even if I wasn’t the one in this scenario.

don't think not voting an outed scum because others are already piled on them is a valid towncred

[TheWabbit]

wait no

take the inverse

[MoustachioMario]

How am I not in any lynchpools anymore? :P