FM Game 5C [Mafia, Phantom & Jester Win!] "Dot-Code"

[Arckas]

We'll try our best to keep you alive, which that is going to be easy. We do not think of you any different, you are a survivor. Fell free to talk as you would anyone else in this town.

Seriously ?
You're really going to believe the claim just like that ? Arckas, come on.
Look what happened in 4d with Cow's claim. We all believed it for the most part and he was amnesiac. People were suspicious with my claim in 4b, but I think I proved myself well with that...and even you thought I was amnesiac trying to become blackmailer.
So what's with the change of heart ?

I really don't care if she is a survivor or not, I'm treating her like one because thats standard protocol.
Later on in the game, then we'll question it. For right now let her speak her piece and then we'll question it later.

Just so you know, in 4B, you wanted out of any mafia, you wanted the blackmailer dead when the godfather would just be fine. While you could have picked any mafia, I was thinking that you wanted to become blackmailer because that would solidify the mafia would win and also be a kick to the shins.

In fact, we've talked about this before.

[Nellyfox]

I don't have the slightest problem in being investigated. Actually, I welcome it if I must.

Problem is you're detection immune.
We can find out if you could be survivor, but you could be godfather or mayor hidden behind the benign claim. Godfather especially, since they can use the excuse of using a vest as a pass for their night immunity. Then sheriff will get back not suspicious for you anyway.

[Arckas]

I also claim Serial Rabbit!

I claim Afronist!

[Nellyfox]

I really don't care if she is a survivor or not, I'm treating her like one because thats standard protocol.
Later on in the game, then we'll question it. For right now let her speak her piece and then we'll question it later.

Just so you know, in 4B, you wanted out of any mafia, you wanted the blackmailer dead when the godfather would just be fine. While you could have picked any mafia, I was thinking that you wanted to become blackmailer because that would solidify the mafia would win and also be a kick to the shins.

In fact, we've talked about this before.

:roll:
Arckas if I wanted to be mafia I'd have become framer or consigliere. Would have given the godfather and blackmailer an extra day to live, and town another mafia to worry about.

Right, well we'll be back on this topic in the case she is counterclaimed.

[chitownmvp01]

Well, what are we going to discuss? I'm up for it.

Bulletin Board:

- This town's Empath died
- Arckas posted some rolelist guessing.
- Octavriousa claims Survivor.

I have the tendency not to believe Day 1 Survivor claims in FM as Day 1 posting is typically not very serious. I will believe it for now, but it's something to keep an eye on in the future, especially if someone counter-claims them during an eventual role claim.

[ValeforRaine]

I don't have the slightest problem in being investigated. Actually, I welcome it if I must.

Problem is you're detection immune.
We can find out if you could be survivor, but you could be godfather or mayor hidden behind the benign claim. Godfather especially, since they can use the excuse of using a vest as a pass for their night immunity. Then sheriff will get back not suspicious for you anyway.

Just to remind you, that investigative pairing is your own fault. We treat survivor claim as we always have. If I have to stop another lynch brigade on a survivor, I'm going to get cranky.

[Nellyfox]

That's the risk you're going to have to take there. I already stated above I can assure no amnesiacs are in this game. I am here for whoever needs the benefit of an extra vote the most.

Mmh.
Fine, sorry.
I'm a bit paranoid with survivors is all.

Just to remind you, that investigative pairing is your own fault. We treat survivor claim as we always have. If I have to stop another lynch brigade on a survivor, I'm going to get cranky.

inb4 we lynch two cits back-to-back
I didn't think Metrion would actually use it the pairing...
I've been too trusting in all my games as well, I kind of need to change that. u_u

[Neasans]

Bulletin Board:

- This town's Empath died
- Arckas posted some rolelist guessing.
- Octavriousa (Octie) claims Survivor.


Nelly's right. The Godfather could be trying to pass for a Survivor. After all, they'd turn up as Mayor, Godfather or Survivor.

However, unless she's counterclaimed, I see no reason for us to not believe her. For now.

[Cyantic]

I'm practically the savior of neutral benigns. Lookin at you, Metrion. Until wrong, I'll vouch for our survivor.

[chitownmvp01]

If there is a Jailor, maybe consider jailing Octarviousa tonight to see if there is any mafia kills. Remember, the Survivor is paired with GF and Mayor in this game for investigation results. He could easily be a GF hiding. Except that the timing of his claim would seem to make him a likely Survivor, but I have seen some odd tactics from evil roles in past games.

[chitownmvp01]

If there is a Jailor, maybe consider jailing Octarviousa tonight to see if there is any mafia kills. Remember, the Survivor is paired with GF and Mayor in this game for investigation results. He could easily be a GF hiding. Except that the timing of his claim would seem to make him a likely Survivor, but I have seen some odd tactics from evil roles in past games.

Sorry, I got the gender wrong. Octarviousa is female.

[Nellyfox]

If there is a Jailor, maybe consider jailing Octarviousa tonight to see if there is any mafia kills. Remember, the Survivor is paired with GF and Mayor in this game for investigation results. He could easily be a GF hiding. Except that the timing of his claim would seem to make him a likely Survivor, but I have seen some odd tactics from evil roles in past games.

Or just have an escort role block her ? But I guess it does prove a jailor exists...do we want the mafia to know of the jailor's existence this early, though ?

[Salense]

If there is a Jailor, maybe consider jailing Octarviousa tonight to see if there is any mafia kills. Remember, the Survivor is paired with GF and Mayor in this game for investigation results. He could easily be a GF hiding. Except that the timing of his claim would seem to make him a likely Survivor, but I have seen some odd tactics from evil roles in past games.

Why would you waste a jail on a Survivor claim, unless someone comes out and counterclaims I see no reason to jail Octar

The jailor is better off just jailing anyone but the Survivor claim.

[Arckas]

If there is a Jailor, maybe consider jailing Octarviousa tonight to see if there is any mafia kills. Remember, the Survivor is paired with GF and Mayor in this game for investigation results. He could easily be a GF hiding. Except that the timing of his claim would seem to make him a likely Survivor, but I have seen some odd tactics from evil roles in past games.

Why would you waste a jail on a Survivor claim, unless someone comes out and counterclaims I see no reason to jail Octar

The jailor is better off just jailing anyone but the Survivor claim.

Wait for the counter claim.

If there is an amnesiac/survivor claim that decide to show up, we've won the game or have found an evil right off the bat.

[Arckas]

Oh wait, I almost forgot.

We don't know if there is a role blocking character in this game yet.

[ValeforRaine]

If there is a Jailor, maybe consider jailing Octarviousa tonight to see if there is any mafia kills. Remember, the Survivor is paired with GF and Mayor in this game for investigation results. He could easily be a GF hiding. Except that the timing of his claim would seem to make him a likely Survivor, but I have seen some odd tactics from evil roles in past games.

Why would you waste a jail on a Survivor claim, unless someone comes out and counterclaims I see no reason to jail Octar

The jailor is better off just jailing anyone but the Survivor claim.

Why is Salense making the most sense? Guys, stop, this can't be a thing.

[Odin1010]

What if the real survivor/amnesiac wants to team up with mafia? We won't have a counterclaim, though I can see another amnesiac go with this route instead of survivor

[chitownmvp01]

It was just an idea. Overall, I think everybody should do whatever they want on the first night as we can't get much info and suspicions out of Day 1.

[Nellyfox]

I'm gonna laugh if there is a counterclaimer neutral benign and they turn out to be legitimate.

[Arckas]

Guys, stop trashing the survivor right off the bat once you see them.

I'm not going to worry about something that can happen at the end of the game yet, and neither should you.

[Neasans]

Anyway, I took it upon myself to get this for future reference:

1) nellyfox - Female
2) OmigodInterradiuses - Male
3) Octavriousa - Female
4) ValeforRaine - (Female?)
5) Cyantic - Male
6) Neasans - Female
7) chitownmvp01 - Male
8) Salense - (Male?)
9) Odin1010 - (Male?)
10) Arckas - Male
11) Boomlay - Male
12) Doobledore - Male
13) FaucetPipe - Male
14) pretzellover33 - (Male?)
15) Sturps- Male
16) Jomosensual - (Male?)
17) YoursTruely - Male
18) warpenguin55 - (Male?)
19) DoctorX - Male
20) Enderitem - (Male?)

[Salense]

I'm gonna laugh if there is a counterclaimer neutral benign and they turn out to be legitimate.

I can imagine. 2 Survivor claims and both are real

Oh, the wasted lynches XD

[Odin1010]

I'm gonna laugh if there is a counterclaimer neutral benign and they turn out to be legitimate.

This could very well be the case. I would just take what people say day 1 with a grain of salt

[Nellyfox]

Anyway, I took it upon myself to get this for future reference:

1) nellyfox - Female
2) OmigodInterradiuses - Male
3) Octavriousa - Female
4) ValeforRaine - Them
5) Cyantic - Male
6) Neasans - Female
7) chitownmvp01 - Male
8) Salense - Female
9) Odin1010 - Male
10) Arckas - Male
11) Boomlay - Male
12) Doobledore - Male
13) FaucetPipe - Male
14) pretzellover33 - (Male?)
15) Sturps- Male
16) Jomosensual - Male?
17) YoursTruely - Male
18) warpenguin55 - Male?
19) DoctorX - Male
20) Enderitem - Male

Fixed.

[Cyantic]

Actually, if we have a jailor, I would like to be jailed.