SFM 56 | Everything's Randomised | Mafia Win

[LinearPoint]

yellow not flipping does suggest there is something different about the mafia card though.

[LinearPoint]

I still don’t like rabbits extreme opportunism and having the same opinions as confirmed scum.

[LinearPoint]

I decided to look back at yesterdays EOD.
So yellow was pushing a mouse or Herisme lynch.
Which is interesting since hereisme was a null read for him and whirlwind was a scum read yet when asked if he prefered hereisme or whirl he pushed hereisme.
Whirl is also the only scum read yellow had who isn’t extremely like town or a dead townie which leads me to believe that either he was lightly bussing whirl or one of his bull reads namely tifos is scum.
I find it hard to believe he put all his allies in his town reads as FML is there as are the neighbors. If Ryan is right about wabbit and both neighbors are town then that leaves Jezz/Eragon as the two town reads yellow had that could be his allies. This does assume that wabbit and both Ryan and witch are town though.

I think yellow was lightly bussing whirl - if whirl is town then yellow only town and null read his allies which would mean a scum in hereisme/tifos as there’s no chance he into town read his allies.
Then there is 2-3 scum in Wabbit/quantum/Eragon/Tifos/(Ryan/Witch)
Hereisme might be scum, but the slot will be night killed by Mafia if they are town and if they don’t then it lets hereisme confirm themself. Obviously though I think the death of any TP should see this slot lynched instantly.

[LinearPoint]

Tifos/Eragon are never a scum team.
Tifos has hard tunneled Eragon since day 1 too much for that too make sense.
Tifos also doesn’t seem the type to hard tunnel.
Tifos/Jezz is more likely as tifos was pushing to have the pool of Eragon/Jezz/Multi/Phone to be lynched because 2 of them were likely scum if mouse flipped town according to him. And I haven’t seen him pushing Jezz and certainly not nearly as much as he pushed the other 3.

Overall though I think tifos is probably town here.
He seems pretty certain mafia were pushing a mouse mislynches and is confident Eragon is one.
I don’t think this level of tunneling comes from mafia to be honest.

[LinearPoint]

I think Eragon would still be the best lynch.
If he’s mafia it confirms another 2 town in me and tifos. Also makes Wabbit highly likely scum.
If town then that would make me and Jezz very likely mafia with tifos also being a suspect from it.
No matter what he’s solving 2-3 players.

Whirl doesn’t really tell a whole lot besides Ryan and hereisme are town if he flips scum.
If he flips town that would mean there’s 1-2 scum in tifos/Herisme which again doesn’t leave us much.

I don’t think any other lynch really gives assosiatives.
Witch does a little if they flipped mafia but practically nothing if they flipped town.
Since we still have the potential to be ok after mislynching WCS we lynch town Eragon gives a lot more info with where to start looking for scum.

[LinearPoint]

Also the fact Eragon tmi’d day start claiming I was rbed before I checked in.

[LinearPoint]

Also because I like to rub things into my opponents faces.
I’d also like to point out Eragon has fucking lost his shit with my fake claim and is death tunneling while I’m still trying to solve the game while he sits there useless and doesn’t help at all.
And because I still like to inflate my ego I will remind everyone I’m the best and was right about the Masons being fake and that yellow pushing multiple mislynches was possibly scum motivated.

[EvilDeanius0]

Linear and Wabbit both look like shit to me right now. this is generally hard.
On one hand, you can interpret Linear's push on me as derailing conversation onto whether or not the masons claims were mason instead of finding scum (because us being neighbors doesn't guarantee one of us is scum), and their vigi claim was obviously bullshit and dumb to claim in the first place because why would mafia kill/rb a vig who was going to shoot town?

But Wabbit's ISO is full of garbage, they have over 9 pages of post and you could probably throw 2/3 of their ISO away and get the same read on them. Like mentioned, Yellow was townreading them (at least D1) and their readlist early-game was relatively similar to each others.

Overall, I think linear MIGHT be the better lynch? I think they have more solid evidence against them then we have against wabbit. My scumpool rn is hereisme/tfios(?)/Linear(interchangeable with wabbit)

Err, if Linear flips scum, interchange tfios with evildeanius.

So you think me and Linear and both scum?

There is always at least one scum in www linear ed
Especially how early these reads came out iirc

With what I'm about to say this looks even worse for Linear then.

[EvilDeanius0]

The tracker claim was real, but I never targeted Linear.

FML didn't visit anyone N1.
Whirlwind didn't visit anyone N2.
Hereisme visited Wabbit N3.

I don't think Whirl is the lynch.

[hereisme]

I'm just skipping catch-up thoughts because I lost most of the time today.
What I'm gonna do is blend everything into reads list to save some time.
Before I do anything else though, I wanted to note this -

The tracker claim was real, but I never targeted Linear.

FML didn't visit anyone N1.
Whirlwind didn't visit anyone N2.
Hereisme visited Wabbit N3.

I don't think Whirl is the lynch.

They aren't lying about who I visited.
So this makes them either Tracker/Lookout or Agent/Watcher

My reads haven't been great, so I'm re-visiting them now.
Probably starting with looking through yellow ISO but then continue through the rest.
I know FML was already looking for associations so I'm pretty much just double checking.
If there's anything people want my thoughts about, please ask.
I'll be around reading.

[TheWabbit]

Dude I want this read to be right it’s so good and 100% the hosts fault for letting happen.
Because information reads like that shouldn’t be possible but because wincons weren’t posted there’s no way wabbit makes an offhand post about wincons as scum

o h

[TheWabbit]

that's scary

[TheWabbit]

I had confidence in the TK going for strong night kills on pretty much confirmed scum like eragon and not someone pulling a gambit.

eragon is scum again because?

[TheWabbit]

@witch

you can't do anything about it lol

[FMLSheWas12]

w.e

/vote tfiosforevah

[FMLSheWas12]

help me cfd pls

this is safe because nobody will care hee hee xd

[EvilDeanius0]

/vote tfios

[FMLSheWas12]

im on four hours of sleep ajajaja

[FMLSheWas12]

if you visit me tonight god have mercy on your soul

[hereisme]

Working on reads but I'm posting this one now, since it was already finished.
Since it's done, and seems to be the vote of the day.
It's where my vote probably was going anyway.
I'll post rest of reads once I'm finished.

tfios - I liked how she seemed genuinely excited to be here early game, but this didn't end up helping her contribution levels during actual game play. Something that pinged me early D1 was her remark about phase length - IMO it only showed concern for voting rather than important town roles possibly forgetting to submit an action. Her first post D2 commented on the Multi mislynch which in itself isn't AI, but I didn't like the comment about "1-2 scum on the wagon" seeing as yellow was on there. Her next post is a single line comment to Jezz VCA, and it seems like a possible mislynch set up on mouse/Royee because there isn't much explanation. When she returns, talks about being willing to vote Phone, but again offers no explaination (PLUS says she's waiting in case "somebody else more suitable to vote might show up". Jezz then asks about the comment about mouse/Royee and tfios replies that she can't decide which of the two is scummier so she'd rather not vote either that day. But if she truly thought they were TvS why wouldn't she want to flip one? She elaborates a little on this in her next post when Jezz asks about thoughts on attempted mouse CFD, which I liked more than her previous content because it actually explained reasoning. Then THIS was her only post during D3. Which, honestly I like the content within this post too, but its the same things she's already stated. The only progression within it is that {Royee/Eragon} might also be town, not just mouse. Also she left immediately after and never responded to any of the players asking her questions. Today she has posted twice, they were both about Linear doing the same thing Phone tried to do "but smarter" I guess. So two posts defending Linear trying to bait getting NKed, not great. - Strong Scum Lean

/vote tfios

[hereisme]

I mean, I dunno, maybe I should keep the rest of my reads to myself.
Because then it's harder WIFOM for Maf when picking kill target.
Give me a general consensus on what you guys want.
I feel like I got Crimson killed because they were my only TR at EoD2.
And they thought I would protect the SR or Neutral on my list.
When I didn't even protect within that pool at all.
So yeah.. I dunno. Tell me if you want my full reads.
I'm still going to finish them for myself either way.

[FMLSheWas12]

ryan if you understand what i mean when i say i dont think yellow has his entire scumteam in nulls and one of ed, jezz, wabbit, you, and witch are scum

then just tunnel jezz slot tomorrow for the luls

[FMLSheWas12]

who wouldn't want your full reads

try to get em out

[FMLSheWas12]

im considering whirl play coming from town after ed claim and it kind of disappoints me because they're just not trying atm

once it reaches the point whirl being scum and not visiting is more plausible than other poe options im definitely revisiting

[hereisme]

who wouldn't want your full reads

try to get em out

Okay, I'm just feeling paranoid.
I understand from you guys POV I might not be TP.
But my POV is that I know I am, and Mafia knows I am.
So they'll absolutely plan their kills around my reads and what they assume I'm doing.
Figured I should at least ask for opinions on it.
I'm working on them either way, but I want more thoughts on it before posting them.