SFM 56 | Everything's Randomised | Mafia Win

[TheWabbit]

was it like, an absolute necessity to have addressed that topic beforehand?

[Eragon1329]

Spoiler:

I mean yeah I’m obviously not vigilante.
Really shoulda been obvious by the claiming vigilante part when there was suspicon of a Mafia Consort/Jailkeeper
was basically trying to bait mafia into wasting a roleblock and kill on me.

lol no

fake-claiming vigilante to "draw a nightkill" is never a good play as town

1)if the real TK is a vigilante, you do get shot at night, but not by mafia. you get shot by the vigilante, making 2 night kills on town(given mafia didnt attack vet) and making the vigilante lose all their bullets
2)IF the real TK is not as smart as FML, and decides to cc, then whoopdey-doo you just outed the TK

It’s also pretty obvious this game isn’t random by the fact ther is so many citizens.
A bit surprised mafia didn’t kill Evil since if they had a ninja they would be pretty likely to believe the Tracker claim.

but evilD rescinded the claim...
so he wasn't a tracker claim
it was a reaction

I think Jezz is town also based on Yellow’s read. He said Jezz was town for faking Vet, but also hesitated saying that it might still be a scum play. I think mafia is more likely to do this to a townie as they are more hesitant to close off possibilities for mislynches.
Yellow town read Wabbit quite a lot but never actually said why from what i could see in their ISO so I can see wabbit being one of their allies.

Witch, Eragon, and Herisme are obviously still scum from how many mislynches those three have caused.

>literally been in the game for one day
"how many mislynches"

and how has HIM caused mislynches?
hes barely been in the game, and is just slacking along.
or even witch for that matter.

Witch, Eragon, hereisme, Wabbit, tifos, whirl

Everyone else is pretty likely or confirmed town.
I’m pretty sure it’s 4v7 as 5 mafia/Traitors makes the most sense with this number of players.
I’s rank most likely scum by (Eragon/Hereisme, Wabbit, Witch, tifos, whirl)
I don’t see Eragon or hereisme ever flipping town after how hard they have pushed mislynches like that.
Yellow was giving wabbit free town cred so I think they are a more likely candidate for their ally than most.

"oh no Eragon pushed mouse who flipped town so I never see Eragon being town"

I mean yeah I’m obviously not vigilante.
Really shoulda been obvious by the claiming vigilante part when there was suspicon of a Mafia Consort/Jailkeeper
was basically trying to bait mafia into wasting a roleblock and kill on me.

you're still gonna die with EvilDeanius' claim

sucker

evilD rescinded the claim tho

Maybe I did read Linear wrong though. Would they claim vig as scum?

Idk, everything I've thought has been wrong this game.

Let me rethink this later.

Y E S T H E Y W O U L D

I’m here. I still want to lynch hereisme today.

yes okay your input is very much appreciated

now tell me what you think of linear/evildeanius

look especially on D3

I’m townreading Linear for their entrance and their vig claim, I don’t see the scum motivation in claiming that. I think ED’s reaction was a bit towny because it didn’t feel panicked. I wouldn’t lynch either of them today.

how the fuck do you not see scum motivation in claiming vigilante?

still had self-pres as motivation for the fakeclaim

There isn't literally no scum motivation it's just the execution. It also assumes that Linear committed the factional kill. It also assumes Linear wouldn't 1v1 ED who fakeclaims every other game.

it doesnt assume linear committed the factional kill
Linear probably DIDNT do the factional kill
im assuming yellow did the factional kill just like last night, so linear still would have known that ED was lying.

Evil probably assumed since I claimed vigilante that if I was mafia I’d take credit for the kill on crimson since it was a kill most people seemed to thinks as a scummy person.
Either way I knew since I can’t visit he was lying so not like it was a concern to me.

I dont think he expected you to take credit for the crimson kill because that would mean that the scum kill still had to go somewhere
the only way you would know he isnt lying is if your slot did the factional kill, which I still doubt is the case, so you would know he was lying as either town or scum

Like I can see Eragon saying town have no reason to fake claim because he wasn’t here when jezz did it.
But it doesn’t make sense that Wabbit was here and didn’t bat an eye at Jezz’s fake claim even though it was still a TK claim.

I still knew about the claim

1)it was less of a hard-claim that was done as self-pres
2)Jezz claims veteran like every game
3)>believing a D1 veteran claim lul

Well I figured Vigilante would be a large enough threat to the Mafia they'd want it immediately dead.
I mean TP would have been bigger, but I didn't want to actually CC the TP claim and risk getting a TP lynched.

here comes another "i want to die lol but not get lynched thats stupid"

uhhh

thats p.normal

hey lets make this easy

i'm a 2-shot strongman

guess why the ninja died last night

funny, right

wouldn't it be funny if wabbit, jezz, and eragon were a team rocket mafia

pretty sure it isn't the case but yea

that would have been beeeooootiful

Well I figured Vigilante would be a large enough threat to the Mafia they'd want it immediately dead.
I mean TP would have been bigger, but I didn't want to actually CC the TP claim and risk getting a TP lynched.

here comes another "i want to die lol but not get lynched thats stupid"

It’s practically phones argument but worded a lot smarter

okay so what's your point

Well, phone did turn out to be town. Maybe linear is actually town too.

thats not even the argument linear was trying to make
so no

[TheWabbit]

how is eragon the only other person to share my PoV on LinearPoint

[TheWabbit]

drop votes motherfuckers

[Eragon1329]

how is eragon the only other person to share my PoV on LinearPoint

because I dont let self-pressing shitters get away with

"oh goody me I was just trying to draw a mafia nightkill"

[TheWabbit]

hMMMMMM

[TheWabbit]

how is eragon the only other person to share my PoV on LinearPoint

because I dont let self-pressing shitters get away with

"oh goody me I was just trying to draw a mafia nightkill"

you overestimate our playerbase's skill

que

thats not overestimating

[Eragon1329]

I have a mission for you people.

Ed, Jezz/Quantum, and Wabbit have one scum there. If I impose my own reads bias, we can further simplify this to one scum in Jezz/Quantum and Wabbit.

You should figure out which person is scum. Anyone can do this. An unlimited amount of people can do this. We just need to stop talking about the same shit.

tbph

I dont think there is a scum here

im absolutely confident linear is scum

im pretty sure that tfios is scum, although its purely from my PoV knowing that he was trying to setup a string of mislynches. Which he isnt actually following this day so idk what that gives me

probably one between (HIM/WWW)
although this is where im the weakest and could see one of (Wabbit/Jezz/maaybe ED)

[ryanyb]

/vote www
Dance motherfucker dance

[FMLSheWas12]

We have 12 hours by the way.

[FMLSheWas12]

I have a mission for you people.

Ed, Jezz/Quantum, and Wabbit have one scum there. If I impose my own reads bias, we can further simplify this to one scum in Jezz/Quantum and Wabbit.

You should figure out which person is scum. Anyone can do this. An unlimited amount of people can do this. We just need to stop talking about the same shit.

tbph

I dont think there is a scum here

im absolutely confident linear is scum

im pretty sure that tfios is scum, although its purely from my PoV knowing that he was trying to setup a string of mislynches. Which he isnt actually following this day so idk what that gives me

probably one between (HIM/WWW)
although this is where im the weakest and could see one of (Wabbit/Jezz/maaybe ED)

Well again if the pool I provided is all town then TYG, a flipped mafia, and a neutral/null read on his entire mafia.

You do you.

[FMLSheWas12]

I get that Linear will probably bait a vigilante rather than mafia abilities and that's a pretty poor oversight.

[ryanyb]

We have 12 hours by the way.

Are you kidding me lol
I take a day off and nothing happens.

Like, you did stuff but there’s like 5 pages. Good shit.

I’ll be back in my hotel in a moment and then you’ll have to deal with my flaming fury.

[FMLSheWas12]

I tried doing stuff but meh. I want to resolve Whirl.

I'm pretty tired and I'm going to make very simple posts probably up until EOD. I should be awake for it, for once.

[FMLSheWas12]

I think hereisme is townier off TYG just going to move him up. It's too bad that he's not doing much we kind of need his voice town or scum.

[ryanyb]

I should also be awake but will be doing things with my brother
So ehhh.

But yea I can be spam pinged

[ryanyb]

I think hereisme is townier off TYG just going to move him up. It's too bad that he's not doing much we kind of need his voice town or scum.

This is exactly it. Like why are the town slots just going away.
Like the issue with the hereisme slot is that they never win f3 if town unless it’s a really really ass f3.

[FMLSheWas12]

I’m here. I still want to lynch hereisme today.

I think there's so much instances in TYG's ISO to suggest they're not aligned yet this is Whirl's entrance.

The read on hereisme doesn't waver. There is no evaluation. It's too stagnant and lacks the fluctuation of a town player reading the game.

It's laziness at worst and scumminess at best.

[ryanyb]

I don’t think I mind flipping www but I need to actually read the day.
It’s been a contentious wagon that never get attention similar to the greninja one

I haven’t had time to iso dive but yea I trust motivated fml

[ryanyb]

I feel like half www’s play is because they’re a shitty alt and are being stupid with their game management and are having to swap accounts to post. Which is retarded.

[ryanyb]

does it even matter if I out it

[ryanyb]

I just realized he signed up for a third game lmfao
Jesus Christ

[ryanyb]

Your alt integrity means nothing to me if you’re flaking because of it.

[FMLSheWas12]

I hate how everyone only talked about Ed & Linear claiming last phase.

There might be scum there but ffs.

If Whirl flips mafia, I will have 0 material to read others off because another mafia went ignored for no reason.

[ryanyb]

I’m pretty sure I read that mess said something to witch along the lines of tldr please and went to go drink.