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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:11 am

ladd wrote:Obviously he won t, I am speaking in hypotethicals

I couldn t care less if you think I am contradicting myself

Tell me how it makes sense to lynch me today

Slowly and smartly

I'm gonna make a magic the gathering analogy

Say that you're going up against somebody who has a simple lab maniac demonic consultation combo

Then they go to play lab maniac and you have a counter in hand

You always use the counter on lab maniac because it's a combo piece. You have no direct confirmation on whether or not they have demonic consultation in hand, but you can assume they are trying to win the game that turn and lab maniac being in the graveyard shuts down their combo

This isn't a matter of winning the game, but it does put village in an objective worse spot

I mean a wolf could die from a day one stalk but that's not a gambit I'd think about taking when there is an easy out
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:17 am

Ladd, the more productive thing to do is to leave a legacy

If you're a villager than your reads will be valued more when you're dead than alive

And I don't think your lynch will be avoided
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby heytheregirl17 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:27 am

nope, zero questions on my reads
i believe i have gamesolved /s
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:30 am

I'm also very confused by your stancing so far

You're hard against the fact that you should be lynched, but are doing nothing proactive to replace yourself. From your POV Chemist is an outed wolf, so why are you not making an initiative to kill them over yourself. You are essentially just trying to save yourself and are focusing solely on yourself. Why does buying you another day have any direct benefit when you're not trying to kill Chemist, a flip that would in theory confirm you, and why is you flipping an issue if it gives the village direct knowledge that Chem is in fact a wolf. Your line of thinking does not make sense
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby heytheregirl17 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:31 am

what if
and this is a novel idea

we lynch cenvil today
and ladd tomorrow
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:31 am

We have living village KP in the form of Kotr

If you get lynched and flip villager then we can just get Chem poisoned

Which should be a 1 for 1 trade I don't think you as a villager would object to
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:32 am

heytheregirl17 wrote:what if
and this is a novel idea

we lynch cenvil today
and ladd tomorrow

I need to talk to ladd more
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby ladd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:33 am

EvanManManMan wrote:I'm also very confused by your stancing so far

You're hard against the fact that you should be lynched, but are doing nothing proactive to replace yourself. From your POV Chemist is an outed wolf, so why are you not making an initiative to kill them over yourself. You are essentially just trying to save yourself and are focusing solely on yourself. Why does buying you another day have any direct benefit when you're not trying to kill Chemist, a flip that would in theory confirm you, and why is you flipping an issue if it gives the village direct knowledge that Chem is in fact a wolf. Your line of thinking does not make sense


I am realistic

I am not dumb Ik I ll never be able to grt chemist lynched
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby heytheregirl17 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:34 am

EvanManManMan wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:what if
and this is a novel idea

we lynch cenvil today
and ladd tomorrow

I need to talk to ladd more

... yes and you would have time
if he lived to tomorrow
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:36 am

ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:I'm also very confused by your stancing so far

You're hard against the fact that you should be lynched, but are doing nothing proactive to replace yourself. From your POV Chemist is an outed wolf, so why are you not making an initiative to kill them over yourself. You are essentially just trying to save yourself and are focusing solely on yourself. Why does buying you another day have any direct benefit when you're not trying to kill Chemist, a flip that would in theory confirm you, and why is you flipping an issue if it gives the village direct knowledge that Chem is in fact a wolf. Your line of thinking does not make sense


I am realistic

I am not dumb Ik I ll never be able to grt chemist lynched

You're trying to convince people that you're a villager

Yet not providing a path towards direct confirmation that you're a villager

At least try to push elsewhere to sort of show a narrative of the path you would like the village to go now/in the future

That will be obnectively more productive and objectivrly more likely to not get you lynched, and I know you're capable of doing it
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby ladd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:36 am

EvanManManMan wrote:Ladd, the more productive thing to do is to leave a legacy

If you're a villager than your reads will be valued more when you're dead than alive

And I don't think your lynch will be avoided


Sorry but I don t think you ll get much

I replaced in 150 pages behind to a gamestate where I am almost a guaranteed lynch. I had no intention to try hard from the start and everyone wanting me dead just makes me want to try even less

I also am a bit short on time and have ln t been able to poat from a pc in case yiu haven t noticed from my barely understandablw post
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby ladd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:37 am

EvanManManMan wrote:
ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:I'm also very confused by your stancing so far

You're hard against the fact that you should be lynched, but are doing nothing proactive to replace yourself. From your POV Chemist is an outed wolf, so why are you not making an initiative to kill them over yourself. You are essentially just trying to save yourself and are focusing solely on yourself. Why does buying you another day have any direct benefit when you're not trying to kill Chemist, a flip that would in theory confirm you, and why is you flipping an issue if it gives the village direct knowledge that Chem is in fact a wolf. Your line of thinking does not make sense


I am realistic

I am not dumb Ik I ll never be able to grt chemist lynched

You're trying to convince people that you're a villager

Yet not providing a path towards direct confirmation that you're a villager

At least try to push elsewhere to sort of show a narrative of the path you would like the village to go now/in the future

That will be obnectively more productive and objectivrly more likely to not get you lynched, and I know you're capable of doing it


My plan is to try and die tonight
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:38 am

ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:Ladd, the more productive thing to do is to leave a legacy

If you're a villager than your reads will be valued more when you're dead than alive

And I don't think your lynch will be avoided


Sorry but I don t think you ll get much

I replaced in 150 pages behind to a gamestate where I am almost a guaranteed lynch. I had no intention to try hard from the start and everyone wanting me dead just makes me want to try even less

I also am a bit short on time and have ln t been able to poat from a pc in case yiu haven t noticed from my barely understandablw post

I'm aware it's kind of contrary to your attitude but unless you show me you are a villager through the methods I typically use to identify you as a villager then I won't be able to
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:39 am

ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:
ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:I'm also very confused by your stancing so far

You're hard against the fact that you should be lynched, but are doing nothing proactive to replace yourself. From your POV Chemist is an outed wolf, so why are you not making an initiative to kill them over yourself. You are essentially just trying to save yourself and are focusing solely on yourself. Why does buying you another day have any direct benefit when you're not trying to kill Chemist, a flip that would in theory confirm you, and why is you flipping an issue if it gives the village direct knowledge that Chem is in fact a wolf. Your line of thinking does not make sense


I am realistic

I am not dumb Ik I ll never be able to grt chemist lynched

You're trying to convince people that you're a villager

Yet not providing a path towards direct confirmation that you're a villager

At least try to push elsewhere to sort of show a narrative of the path you would like the village to go now/in the future

That will be obnectively more productive and objectivrly more likely to not get you lynched, and I know you're capable of doing it


My plan is to try and die tonight

Yet you Don't want to try and fully understand game state

:/
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby ladd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:40 am

It s irrealistic to ask me for a path when I have barely 10 pages

You have been itg from tge start, i think you have a way better hang of the game than me

My objective rn is to not get lynched, hopefully lynch scum and then try to die tonight by protecting someone
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby ladd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:41 am

EvanManManMan wrote:
ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:Ladd, the more productive thing to do is to leave a legacy

If you're a villager than your reads will be valued more when you're dead than alive

And I don't think your lynch will be avoided


Sorry but I don t think you ll get much

I replaced in 150 pages behind to a gamestate where I am almost a guaranteed lynch. I had no intention to try hard from the start and everyone wanting me dead just makes me want to try even less

I also am a bit short on time and have ln t been able to poat from a pc in case yiu haven t noticed from my barely understandablw post

I'm aware it's kind of contrary to your attitude but unless you show me you are a villager through the methods I typically use to identify you as a villager then I won't be able to


I dom t think you d be able to tell i am a villager from normal merhods considerig if I was scum i d be a stalker and stalker!me would post essenrially the same as villager!me

But sure maybe I can try later
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby heytheregirl17 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:42 am

ooooooh i'm a spooky ghost

like I feel i brought forth a logical parity
and nobody even gave it a second glance, or barely even a first
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby ladd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:42 am

heytheregirl17 wrote:ooooooh i'm a spooky ghost

like I feel i brought forth a logical parity
and nobody even gave it a second glance, or barely even a first

Why cenvil?

What did they do?
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:43 am

ladd wrote:It s irrealistic to ask me for a path when I have barely 10 pages

You have been itg from tge start, i think you have a way better hang of the game than me

My objective rn is to not get lynched, hopefully lynch scum and then try to die tonight by protecting someone

Again why are you not pushing Chemist then. If you're using having limited knowledge as a cop out for not having a path to take then why are you not using the limited knowledge you have?

I don't understand that

Even if you find it unrealistic it's the most productive line of thought you can be pushing rn
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:44 am

ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:
ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:Ladd, the more productive thing to do is to leave a legacy

If you're a villager than your reads will be valued more when you're dead than alive

And I don't think your lynch will be avoided


Sorry but I don t think you ll get much

I replaced in 150 pages behind to a gamestate where I am almost a guaranteed lynch. I had no intention to try hard from the start and everyone wanting me dead just makes me want to try even less

I also am a bit short on time and have ln t been able to poat from a pc in case yiu haven t noticed from my barely understandablw post

I'm aware it's kind of contrary to your attitude but unless you show me you are a villager through the methods I typically use to identify you as a villager then I won't be able to


I dom t think you d be able to tell i am a villager from normal merhods considerig if I was scum i d be a stalker and stalker!me would post essenrially the same as villager!me

But sure maybe I can try later

I mean either way it's genuinely evaluative ladd reads

I'll take it either way
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby ladd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:44 am

EvanManManMan wrote:
ladd wrote:It s irrealistic to ask me for a path when I have barely 10 pages

You have been itg from tge start, i think you have a way better hang of the game than me

My objective rn is to not get lynched, hopefully lynch scum and then try to die tonight by protecting someone

Again why are you not pushing Chemist then. If you're using having limited knowledge as a cop out for not having a path to take then why are you not using the limited knowledge you have?

I don't understand that

Even if you find it unrealistic it's the most productive line of thought you can be pushing rn


I can t get chemist lynched

As easy as this

I juat can t, their claim is stronger than mine and even though they are not doing shit they are not getting lynched today
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby heytheregirl17 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:45 am

ladd wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:ooooooh i'm a spooky ghost

like I feel i brought forth a logical parity
and nobody even gave it a second glance, or barely even a first

Why cenvil?

What did they do?

I was about to blow up but then realized you weren't evan
So go look at this post.
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:45 am

ladd wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:
ladd wrote:It s irrealistic to ask me for a path when I have barely 10 pages

You have been itg from tge start, i think you have a way better hang of the game than me

My objective rn is to not get lynched, hopefully lynch scum and then try to die tonight by protecting someone

Again why are you not pushing Chemist then. If you're using having limited knowledge as a cop out for not having a path to take then why are you not using the limited knowledge you have?

I don't understand that

Even if you find it unrealistic it's the most productive line of thought you can be pushing rn


I can t get chemist lynched

As easy as this

I juat can t, their claim is stronger than mine and even though they are not doing shit they are not getting lynched today

I know you think this way

I don't know why you refuse to try anyways

It's a pessimistic approach that you shouldn't normally have, although I can kind of get it because of your unfortunate sub in situation
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby ladd » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:50 am

heytheregirl17 wrote:
ladd wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:ooooooh i'm a spooky ghost

like I feel i brought forth a logical parity
and nobody even gave it a second glance, or barely even a first

Why cenvil?

What did they do?

I was about to blow up but then realized you weren't evan
So go look at this post.


K I read it

I am not super convinced tbh

why would cenvil be more likely to make that vote as scum? I have seem plenty of townies make votes like that one

Now they haven t done shit just looking at their iso so idc if they get lynched but I don t think they are particularly likely to be scum
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Re: 17D | All Any | Day 2

Postby heytheregirl17 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:51 am

We can sub in hereisme for cenvil if that makes it more likely anyone will wagon with me
like seriously
i'm trying
but i have the patience of a chicken nugget
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