VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | Game Over (Doomed To Suffer)

[TheWabbit]

Hello. Posting to appear in /egosearch; will officially partake in game + discussion later on.

[TheWabbit]

Also just a reminder in case people didn't bother reading the OP - this is a light game, so you can only make 50 posts per in-game day with the exception of the last hour, in which you can post as much as you want.

We had FML's 35-post limit and none seem to have been close to the limit

I don't think it would be much of a difference

[James]

/vote Ejjinami

N0 red

Since I'm always SRing them not matter what -
/vote Chemist

Hello

We're going to leave cop cover. How do we do that? It's simple. Every night that the cop is still alive and unouted, you claim to have gotten a green check on one person that night. Try to make it someone you would actually check as cop in that situation.

Benefits:
- Helps hide the real cop while getting their peeks out
- Allows SHC

Disadvantages:
- Helps wolves PoE the cop more effectively - Less so with doctors in the setup

/vote hereisme

This vote's about as much of a joke as theirs, but their post along with it felt lazy.

Ew
Also what's SHC?

Whatever we decide to do for cop, onto the doctors

At the end of the day, we should(as a town) correlate a “doc 1” and “doc 2” pool, to make 100% sure docs don’t cross-heal

Who the docs heal in that “pool” is up to them, for WIFOM purposes, but they must heal in that pool

How would you seperate the 2 docs though?

/vote james
stranger danger

I challenge you to a duel
Winner takes all

[Chemist1422]

SHC = Seer Hunt Clear

If wolves attack someone thinking they're the cop their peek is likely town

[James]

I don't think seperating the 2 doctors is gonna be possible unless one of them claim, so we should just give both a pool and hope it doesn't go south. Also damn it I can't use

SHC = Seer Hunt Clear

If wolves attack someone thinking they're the cop their peek is likely town

ooh

[TheWabbit]

Okay in a recent game I played I left cop cover on both of the mafia

But even then, we gain information. 3 people left cover on one person and they weren't killed, so we figured them or their claimed peek had to be mafia, and both were

I've never seen hypos done when just Cop is in play,
But it does sound more helpful than harmful.
From what you've described I would say I'm already for it.
With the role list, I feel like it would be a good plan.
I'd still like to hear the opinions of everyone else though.

On a separate note, because of light post limit, we'll need to make each one count.
I'm probably skipping meme phase because otherwise there will be little discussion today.
Everyone is free to do whatever they want obviously,
but fluffing after today will probably lead to SR from me.
Get the memes out fast or in the same post or something.

Current reads:
Town Lean - Chemist
NULL - everyone else

Townread was easily given. Noted.

[James]

>Still using readlists in 2019
lole

[TheWabbit]

Claiming goon. My buddies are lilgangsta and Eragon1329.

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I think we should let the doctors decide the target for themselves. Attempting to separate them with no clear distinction both in town!PoV and doc!PoV won't help. Attempting to find ways to help the doctors in coordination will also help scum narrow down possible doctors.

[tfiosforevah]

ejjinami|1|Eragon1329; Chemist1422|1|hereisme

Also just a reminder in case people didn't bother reading the OP - this is a light game, so you can only make 50 posts per in-game day with the exception of the last hour, in which you can post as much as you want.

^^^^^^^^
this should be easy for me

[NotExacerbated]

Hey gamers I’m at a school dance

[James]

ejjinami|1|Eragon1329; Chemist1422|1|hereisme

Also just a reminder in case people didn't bother reading the OP - this is a light game, so you can only make 50 posts per in-game day with the exception of the last hour, in which you can post as much as you want.

^^^^^^^^
this should be easy for me

keyword: should

[MafiaMenace]

i see
what will we duel in james?

[TheWabbit]

Hey gamers I’m at a school dance

good luck with your exotropia

[NotExacerbated]

Also I’m totally town

See y’all in the morning <3
-much love, Exa

[lilgangsta]

Hello

We're going to leave cop cover. How do we do that? It's simple. Every night that the cop is still alive and unouted, you claim to have gotten a green check on one person that night. Try to make it someone you would actually check as cop in that situation.

Benefits:
- Helps hide the real cop while getting their peeks out
- Allows SHC

Disadvantages:
- Helps wolves PoE the cop more effectively - Less so with doctors in the setup

/vote hereisme

This vote's about as much of a joke as theirs, but their post along with it felt lazy.

I'm in.

Whatever we decide to do for cop, onto the doctors

At the end of the day, we should(as a town) correlate a “doc 1” and “doc 2” pool, to make 100% sure docs don’t cross-heal

Who the docs heal in that “pool” is up to them, for WIFOM purposes, but they must heal in that pool

That is not going to work, and i feel it's going to create more confusion than needed.

Also notes on claiming:

Due to the doctors being macho and the cop being our only TI.

Do not claim until you are specifically asked to claim. There is always a chance that you won’t be the lynch, and a claimed citizen is basically useless, will never die at night, and could possibly be mislynched later.

So always leave that air of mystery on whether you are a PR or not, and frankly i’d Prefer never claiming until the lynch is 100% set, and only CFD’ing off of the lynch if the target is a PR

I feel like we would lynch a suspicious person regarless, especially if there is a chance that a goon could claim PR to escape from the gallows.
But i agree with the general idea.

Okay well Chemist is being very productive in this game. Either town or some next level powerwolfing.

Already? All Chemist did was make a plan. Also, what about Eragon?

Eragon towny for setting up good mechanical play

Scorpio is a FeelsWeird for mentioning me and not Eragon

Already? It's not a good play, but i agree with your second point.

The doc in the pool given

If there are 2 docs in one pool, well then...

Fuck RNG lmao

Like “group 1” persists of blah blah, and the doctor in that pool heals there, and “group 2 “ consists of blah blah and doctor in that pool heals there

RNG Screwing us over is quite likely, i wouldn't risk it.

@Eragon
I'm still worried about accidentally having both Docs in same pool.
This plan seems more dangerous because of that chance.
And what if one of the pools ends up with more Maf than town?
Then that Doc has more chance of healing scum on accident.
Wouldn't it just be safer to let the Docs do whatever they choose?
As in - heal who they town read most each day?
It feels too risky when we can't be sure how the pools are split.

As for your thoughts on the hypo, I can see both sides.
Plus, if Cop dies tonight or gets red check, we don't need to.
But if Cop dies Night 2 or 3 with green checks, the hypo helps.
If I had to say what I wanted to do right now, I think we should.

SHC = Seer Hunt Clear

If wolves attack someone thinking they're the cop their peek is likely town

That could be used against us, so i wouldn't rely on it.

Current reads:
Town Lean - Chemist
NULL - everyone else

Already? And i wouldn't worry about post limit, we have an entire 50 posts.

>Still using readlists in 2019
lole

What do we use instead? I don't have a problem with readlists.

Claiming goon. My buddies are lilgangsta and Eragon1329.

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I think we should let the doctors decide the target for themselves. Attempting to separate them with no clear distinction both in town!PoV and doc!PoV won't help. Attempting to find ways to help the doctors in coordination will also help scum narrow down possible doctors.

We talked about this, i wasn't willing to be part of this plan!!
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Yeah, pretty much.

Hey gamers I’m at a school dance

Go get that coochie!
I'm already leaning to eragon and scorpio being a scumteam due to scorpio purposely ignoring eragon. Didn't like eragon's plan either, but i don't think it was intentionally bad.

[lilgangsta]

Whoops- Somehow the spoiler code dissapeared when i was finishing up my post. Too bad.

[lilgangsta]

@Eragon
I'm still worried about accidentally having both Docs in same pool.
This plan seems more dangerous because of that chance.
And what if one of the pools ends up with more Maf than town?
Then that Doc has more chance of healing scum on accident.
Wouldn't it just be safer to let the Docs do whatever they choose?
As in - heal who they town read most each day?
It feels too risky when we can't be sure how the pools are split.

As for your thoughts on the hypo, I can see both sides.
Plus, if Cop dies tonight or gets red check, we don't need to.
But if Cop dies Night 2 or 3 with green checks, the hypo helps.
If I had to say what I wanted to do right now, I think we should.

Mindmeld.

[lilgangsta]

I'll probably only log-in only one or twice a day so i'll be making walls. This one was a fail, hopefully the next one works out better. Sorry, can't be that active.

[TheWabbit]

hypoclaiming sounds like a bad idea

who knows

[NotExacerbated]

This setup is so town sided it’s disgusting

[NotExacerbated]

ejjinami|1|Eragon1329; Chemist1422|1|hereisme

Also just a reminder in case people didn't bother reading the OP - this is a light game, so you can only make 50 posts per in-game day with the exception of the last hour, in which you can post as much as you want.

Wait what?
Post caps are a thing? Lmaooo that’s fuckin lame.

[James]

What do we use instead? I don't have a problem with readlists.

When I mean readlists I'm talking about
{idiot}
{idiot2nd}
{idiot3rd}
{idiot4th}
{idiot5th}
Also non-trusted-users don't have access to spoiler

[NotExacerbated]

Also notes on claiming:

Due to the doctors being macho and the cop being our only TI.

Do not claim until you are specifically asked to claim. There is always a chance that you won’t be the lynch, and a claimed citizen is basically useless, will never die at night, and could possibly be mislynched later.

So always leave that air of mystery on whether you are a PR or not, and frankly i’d Prefer never claiming until the lynch is 100% set, and only CFD’ing off of the lynch if the target is a PR

I hardclaim sheriff.

We don’t even need to hypo, whichever doc has me in their pool heals me.

[ejjinami]

Ok, sorry, I'm going home from a short vacation today and I'm not really in the mood for jokes
Tbh I just feel like yelling at everyone around me, so I'll try to just write what I want to write and then disappear until it stops
Sorry for that

[ejjinami]

Okay well Chemist is being very productive in this game. Either town or some next level powerwolfing.

Prob not SvS
The post is a big exaggeration, but it feels like a relatively honest attempt to scumhunt, so I think I like it
Besides, scum tend to be more hesitant in giving strong TRs, so I guess the post is good


Btw, I played with scum!hereisme a while ago and it feels like they did more in here than in the entire game before
That was around a year ago though, so it might not even matter
Anyways, I like their content

Eragon wrote quite a bit as well, but tbh I don't really want to TR him for it
Idk why, I just don't, I don't think it makes them town