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VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | Game Over (Doomed To Suffer)

Postby ZSSDistortion » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:55 pm



VFM43: No Hope (Plus One)

As time moves forward, we move ever so slightly closer to the brink of collapse. With the future of this section unclear and the world becoming more shambolic by the minute, the beginning of the end approaches.

There is no hope.

Or is there?


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Goon
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  • If a Doctor dies, the Sheriff will gain a Macho modifier.
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | Setup

Postby ZSSDistortion » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:06 pm

Doomed Playerlist
1) BasicFourLife MafiaMenace
2) Kears123 * James
3) Chemist1422
4) heytheregirl17 lilgangsta
5) tfiosforevah *
6) ejjinami *
7) NotExacerbated *

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Preemptively all of us - we'll be free eventually
Phone0IX - Lynched D1 - Goon
hereisme - Killed N1 - Sheriff
ScorpioDiAngelo- Lynched D2 - Citizen
Eragon1329- Killed N2 - Doctor
UzayAltay - Lynched D3 - Goon
TheWabbit- Killed N3 - Doctor


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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | Setup

Postby ZSSDistortion » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:07 pm

I will send rolecards out later as I'm working on coursework stuff for uni - in the meantime feel free to contemplate your existence in this world.
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | Setup

Postby ZSSDistortion » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:14 pm

Rolecards have been sent out. The game will start at 1AM GMT which is approximately 1 hour 45 minutes from this post.
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | Setup

Postby ZSSDistortion » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:00 pm

Spoiler: "So how are you holding up these days?"

"You should already know this."

"Don't give me that look man, I just wanna get an idea of what you've been up to recently."

"Again, do I really need to state the obvious?"

"...Look, I understand that you're pissed that the worlds went to shit and everything's ruined but does that really mean you need to be this abrasive?"

"Do you even realize the magnitude of the situation we're in? People have been mysteriously going missing even before this shit happened, regardless of how well-known or rich they were. No trace has been found of them no matter how much I've looked. Its almost like they never existed. And I'm not even going into how the people we trusted to keep us safe and manage our countries have messed everything up. Yet despite all this, you remain nonchalant about it?"

"I'm just trying to stay positive, honestly. Even if I'm forced to spend the rest of my days trying to survive in this ruined world and hunting for clues as to what happened to the missing people I knew, its better to have an optimistic outlook on life so I can focus on motivating myself to fix this place up someday."

"Whatever floats your boat, I guess. Personally I think that outlook of yours is gonna cause some serious problems in life- you never know what the other survivors could be thinking. Now let's get to the point of our meeting - take this device and try to gather intel on the missing people. If we're both somehow still alive in a week, lets meet back at this pier. See you around mate."

"I'll hopefully see you back here too."


With the world becoming more shambolic by the minute and the future of this section looking shaky, time is running out.

Welcome to the beginning of the end folks. Enjoy the ride.

Day 1 begins! It will end at 1AM GMT on the 13th of February.
There is a lynch today.
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | Setup

Postby Eragon1329 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:00 pm

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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Eragon1329 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:01 pm

/vote Ejjinami

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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby hereisme » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:05 pm

Since I'm always SRing them not matter what -
/vote Chemist
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby ZSSDistortion » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:19 pm

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Also just a reminder in case people didn't bother reading the OP - this is a light game, so you can only make 50 posts per in-game day with the exception of the last hour, in which you can post as much as you want.
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby MafiaMenace » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:27 pm

/vote james
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:34 pm

Hello

We're going to leave cop cover. How do we do that? It's simple. Every night that the cop is still alive and unouted, you claim to have gotten a green check on one person that night. Try to make it someone you would actually check as cop in that situation.

Benefits:
- Helps hide the real cop while getting their peeks out
- Allows SHC

Disadvantages:
- Helps wolves PoE the cop more effectively - Less so with doctors in the setup

/vote hereisme

This vote's about as much of a joke as theirs, but their post along with it felt lazy.
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby hereisme » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:49 pm

Hmm I can see that plan going either way.
What if the first night 3 people claim green on goons?
Then Mafia will know 3 people that aren't the Cop.

That's WCS though so it might actually be more beneficial than not.
Plus, like you said, with two Docs it's still very WIFOM for Maf.
Yeah, I'm leaning towards this being a good idea for Cop cover.
Or at the very least for accurate results pending Cop flip.

Ps - I'm not even gonna deny my lazy RVS post on you.
But I will remove it because your post struck me as townie.

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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:52 pm

Okay in a recent game I played I left cop cover on both of the mafia

But even then, we gain information. 3 people left cover on one person and they weren't killed, so we figured them or their claimed peek had to be mafia, and both were
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby hereisme » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:04 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:Okay in a recent game I played I left cop cover on both of the mafia

But even then, we gain information. 3 people left cover on one person and they weren't killed, so we figured them or their claimed peek had to be mafia, and both were

I've never seen hypos done when just Cop is in play,
But it does sound more helpful than harmful.
From what you've described I would say I'm already for it.
With the role list, I feel like it would be a good plan.
I'd still like to hear the opinions of everyone else though.

On a separate note, because of light post limit, we'll need to make each one count.
I'm probably skipping meme phase because otherwise there will be little discussion today.
Everyone is free to do whatever they want obviously,
but fluffing after today will probably lead to SR from me.
Get the memes out fast or in the same post or something.

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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Eragon1329 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:07 pm

I’m not against cop hypo’ing but I’m not like, a strong advocate for it either.

Basically this is my thoughts on hypoclaimig

Yes: we get 1-2 free clears depending on claims

No: unless scum gets incredibly lucky, we get 2-3 clears when the cop outs, but alsompossibly 0

Basically like a small confirmed gain or a larger, but riskier gain
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Eragon1329 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:08 pm

Whatever we decide to do for cop, onto the doctors

At the end of the day, we should(as a town) correlate a “doc 1” and “doc 2” pool, to make 100% sure docs don’t cross-heal

Who the docs heal in that “pool” is up to them, for WIFOM purposes, but they must heal in that pool
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Eragon1329 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:10 pm

Also notes on claiming:

Due to the doctors being macho and the cop being our only TI.

Do not claim until you are specifically asked to claim. There is always a chance that you won’t be the lynch, and a claimed citizen is basically useless, will never die at night, and could possibly be mislynched later.

So always leave that air of mystery on whether you are a PR or not, and frankly i’d Prefer never claiming until the lynch is 100% set, and only CFD’ing off of the lynch if the target is a PR
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:15 pm

Eragon towny for setting up good mechanical play

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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby hereisme » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:19 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:Whatever we decide to do for cop, onto the doctors

At the end of the day, we should(as a town) correlate a “doc 1” and “doc 2” pool, to make 100% sure docs don’t cross-heal

Who the docs heal in that “pool” is up to them, for WIFOM purposes, but they must heal in that pool

Here's the problem I see with this - how will the Docs know who is 1 or 2?
They aren't gonna be labeled on the Role Card as 1 and 2 LoL
So how will we be sure they heal in different pools?
It might be best to just let them WIFOM too.

About claiming, everyone should agree with Eregon here.
Don't claim unless you are VERY sure you're getting lynched.

Scorpio entrance feels a little weird yeah.
But I don't really know how they play normally.
@Scorpio Do you have opinions on the proposed plans?
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Eragon1329 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:21 pm

hereisme wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:Whatever we decide to do for cop, onto the doctors

At the end of the day, we should(as a town) correlate a “doc 1” and “doc 2” pool, to make 100% sure docs don’t cross-heal

Who the docs heal in that “pool” is up to them, for WIFOM purposes, but they must heal in that pool

Here's the problem I see with this - how will the Docs know who is 1 or 2?
They aren't gonna be labeled on the Role Card as 1 and 2 LoL
So how will we be sure they heal in different pools?
It might be best to just let them WIFOM too.

About claiming, everyone should agree with Eregon here.
Don't claim unless you are VERY sure you're getting lynched.

Scorpio entrance feels a little weird yeah.
But I don't really know how they play normally.
@Scorpio Do you have opinions on the proposed plans?


The doc in the pool given

If there are 2 docs in one pool, well then...

Fuck RNG lmao

Like “group 1” persists of blah blah, and the doctor in that pool heals there, and “group 2 “ consists of blah blah and doctor in that pool heals there
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Eragon1329 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:22 pm

Although that’s a good point and could work out either way

But I think it helps stop the kills from being stopped on the “best players” wih maximum efficiency, as we can separate the “best players” into different groups so that docs can heal the players in that group
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Chemist1422 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:29 pm

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Okay well Chemist is being very productive in this game. Either town or some next level powerwolfing.

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Scorpio is a FeelsWeird for mentioning me and not Eragon

TBH I forgot about you. Sorry. But yeah. Same goes for you

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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby hereisme » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:31 pm

@Eragon
I'm still worried about accidentally having both Docs in same pool.
This plan seems more dangerous because of that chance.
And what if one of the pools ends up with more Maf than town?
Then that Doc has more chance of healing scum on accident.
Wouldn't it just be safer to let the Docs do whatever they choose?
As in - heal who they town read most each day?
It feels too risky when we can't be sure how the pools are split.

As for your thoughts on the hypo, I can see both sides.
Plus, if Cop dies tonight or gets red check, we don't need to.
But if Cop dies Night 2 or 3 with green checks, the hypo helps.
If I had to say what I wanted to do right now, I think we should.
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby Eragon1329 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:35 pm

hereisme wrote:@Eragon
I'm still worried about accidentally having both Docs in same pool.
This plan seems more dangerous because of that chance.
And what if one of the pools ends up with more Maf than town?
Then that Doc has more chance of healing scum on accident.
Wouldn't it just be safer to let the Docs do whatever they choose?
As in - heal who they town read most each day?
It feels too risky when we can't be sure how the pools are split.

As for your thoughts on the hypo, I can see both sides.
Plus, if Cop dies tonight or gets red check, we don't need to.
But if Cop dies Night 2 or 3 with green checks, the hypo helps.
If I had to say what I wanted to do right now, I think we should.


uhhh they wouldn’t heal scum becuase they’d heal the towny person in their group

If the towny person is scum, they’d probably be healed anyways so...


The only problem is having both docs in the same group... which I’m trying to figure out a way around
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Re: VFM43 | No Hope (Plus One) | D1 (Beginning Of The End)

Postby James » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:19 pm

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O my heart it's a fish on the rocks and it bakes in the bad sun

O my heart it's a rock in the gutter

O my heart it's a rocking great bolder and stuck in the gutter
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