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[Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Game Over | Mafia Win

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:07 pm
by Varanus
NFM64
Hosted by Varanus


Please read the rules below fully.

General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at the full Forum Mafia Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.


Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative: (Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout)
Town Protective: (Doctor/Bodyguard/Marshal)
Town Killing: (Vigilante/Veteran)
Town Support: (Medium/Escort)
Town Citizen: (Citizen)

Mafia Head: (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical: (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support: (Consigliere/Consort/Agent)
Mafia Deception: (Framer/Janitor/Disguiser/Prankster)

There will never be more than one Mafioso.
Citizen may only roll once in Random Town.
The random town can also not be a Town Killing role (Vigilante/Veteran).


Investigator Results
Spoiler: Citizen/Godfather
Sheriff/Marshal/Mafioso/Disguiser
Escort/Doctor/Consort/Prankster
Lookout/Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer/Agent
Investigator/Veteran/Medium/Consigliere/Janitor
Framer


Sheriff Results
Spoiler: Town and Godfather: Your target is not suspicious!
All other Mafia: Your target is a member of the Mafia!


Role List
    Town Investigative
    Town Protective
    Town Killing
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen


    Godfather
    Mafia Tactical/Support
    Random Mafia

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Setup

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:11 pm
by Varanus
Living Player List:
  1. Flint9
  2. Bodhrak
  3. Joeshe
  4. Eragon1329


Graveyard:
The olden days when there were 2 NFMs filled with newcomers running at a time
  1. Phone0Ix - Lynched D1 - Escort
  2. TheDebil - Killed by the Mafia N1 - Vigilante
  3. JuvenileFourtyTwo - Lynched D2 - Bodyguard
  4. Chemist1422 - Killed by the Mafia N2 - Lookout
  5. Kears123 <-- YosueElShirtlessSkin - Lyched D3 - Godfather
  6. MoustachioMario - Killed by the Mafia N3 - Citizen <-- Veteran
  7. rightodude - Lynched D4 - Consort
  8. 0verki11 - Killed by the Mafia N4 - Citizen
  9. ChubbyMooshroom9 <-- TiltedComedian - Lynched D5 - Citizen

ISOs:
Varanus (Host)

Flint9
rightodude
Bodhrak
Joeshe
JuvenileFourtyTwo
Kears123 <-- YosueElShirtlessSkin
0verki11
MoustachioMario
Phone0Ix
TheDebil
Chemist1422
ChubbyMooshroom9 <-- Tiltedcomedian
Eragon1329

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Setup

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:12 pm
by Varanus
Introduction and Mechanics


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia) duking it out. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-forward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team. While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • Day is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role being shown to the public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

**There are no whispers present in this game.
**There are no last wills or death notes in this game.
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up.


The game will only end once one of the major factions fulfills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending the host the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
For sending me Night actions or whatever, include "NFM63" in the subject line, it would also help if you included "Night Action" for your actions

Mafia Killing Revamp is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology

General terms:
Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it. For instance, saying "there are alot of people that are more important than me" may imply that you are softclaiming citizen. Make sure you have a plan in mind before attempting this.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors. If player X posts things that look like their a mafia member, you have a scumread on them!
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. For instance, if you think player Y wouldn't kill Z because Z townreads Y, but then realize that may well be a reason that Y would kill Z: to make people think Y isn't a mafia member, you've stumbled on WIFOM. Tread lightly.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose. Extremely subjective term not to be taken lightly.


Slightly more uncommon terms:
FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post what you think of other players regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.
Townies have no reason to lie and should never do it, in NFM. Spotting a lie can be almost as sure as spotting a mafia itself.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

FM Academy has further guidance to playing scum.

Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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If you ever feel anxious playing FM, like I do every single time I play, look at yourself and realize things aren't so bad. As long as you are having fun it's always worth it. Don't be scared to post.

For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Setup

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:13 pm
by Varanus
Important differences between FM and ToS

Lynches
    Unlike ToS, there is no Trial Phase in FM.
    Once a player has received a majority of the votes, they are immediately lynched. There are no guilty and innocent votes.
    In addition, if day ends without a player receiving a majority of votes, the player with the most votes will be lynched. This is called a plurality lynch.
    If there are multiple players with the same number of votes at the end of the day, the player that reached that many votes first will be lynched.

Mafia Kills
    Each night, any player in the mafia may perform the kill
    If they choose to perform the kill, they aren't allowed to use any of their other actions
    As such, there is no requirement for a Godfather or Mafioso to be alive, and there is no role promotion

Mafia Chat
    The mafia are able to communicate privately with each other at all times
    This allows them to talk in their own chat during both day and night

Citizens
    Many members of the town will have no night ability to use at all
    This is because in FM, the game is focused more on finding scum during the day based on behavior
    This also means that as a power role, you will usually want to avoid being killed early in the game

Last Wills/Death Notes
    There are no death notes or last wills in FM
    As such, if you die with important information that hasn't been revealed, that information dies with you
    Choose wisely when you want to reveal information, as you may die without getting more if you reveal too soon, or die before revealing any if you wait too long

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Setup

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:35 pm
by Varanus
One more important reminder before we begin, though I'll probably have to tell you while the game is going several times
In order to get through the thread quickly to count votes, I ctrl + f for "/vote"
As such, if you want to unvote, you'll have to do "/vote unvote" instead of just "/unvote", as the latter won't appear in my search

Best of luck to you all


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Day 1 begins!
Day will end in 120 hours, or once majority is reached!


End of Day 1:


Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:43 pm
by Chemist1422
gl

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:43 pm
by Tiltedcomedian
*Pets everyone*

Image

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:49 pm
by 0verki11
sup nerds
/vote Chemist

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:50 pm
by Chemist1422
Tiltedcomedian wrote:*Pets everyone*

Image

Coconuts
0verki11 wrote:sup nerds
/vote Chemist

no u

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:51 pm
by Eragon1329
hype

/vote tilted

alas, only 1 meme shall remain in the end

I'd post the copypasta of me claiming a role but thats getting stale so i need to save it

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:52 pm
by Eragon1329
"Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral."

ima survivor


Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:53 pm
by Tiltedcomedian
Eragon1329 wrote:hype

/vote tilted

alas, only 1 meme shall remain in the end

I'd post the copypasta of me claiming a role but thats getting stale so i need to save it


obligatory RNG sez 2, 11, and 13 are the mafia so O M G U S

/vote Eragon

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:54 pm
by Eragon1329
Tiltedcomedian wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:hype

/vote tilted

alas, only 1 meme shall remain in the end

I'd post the copypasta of me claiming a role but thats getting stale so i need to save it


obligatory RNG sez 2, 11, and 13 are the mafia so O M G U S

/vote Eragon

Image

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:54 pm
by 0verki11
Eragon1329 wrote:"Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral."

ima survivor


I claim pirate

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:55 pm
by Chemist1422

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:56 pm
by Tiltedcomedian
Eragon1329 wrote:
Tiltedcomedian wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:hype

/vote tilted

alas, only 1 meme shall remain in the end

I'd post the copypasta of me claiming a role but thats getting stale so i need to save it


obligatory RNG sez 2, 11, and 13 are the mafia so O M G U S

/vote Eragon

Image


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:57 pm
by Eragon1329
im not excellent Chinese though, im mediocre Chinese

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:59 pm
by Varanus
Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not voting:
Flint9, rightodude, Bodhrak, Joeshe, JuvenileFourtyTwo, YosueElShirtlessSkin, MoustachioMario, Phone0Ix, TheDebil, Chemist1422


End of Day 1:



Please refrain from scaring away all the new people
How is this thread already a disaster

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:59 pm
by Eragon1329
Cause its-a-me, distario

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:07 pm
by Tiltedcomedian
orip

memephase is over already

how sad

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:08 pm
by 0verki11
Tiltedcomedian wrote:orip

memephase is over already

how sad

meme phase is never over

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:12 pm
by 0verki11
Tiltedcomedian wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:hype

/vote tilted

alas, only 1 meme shall remain in the end

I'd post the copypasta of me claiming a role but thats getting stale so i need to save it


obligatory RNG sez 2, 11, and 13 are the mafia so O M G U S

/vote Eragon

I got 9, 4 and 10

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:33 pm
by Tiltedcomedian
just for the game



*dances*

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:57 pm
by 0verki11
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:Alright, let's just jump right into this

have fun

Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM64 | Day 1

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:35 pm
by Eragon1329
0verki11 wrote:
JuvenileFourtyTwo wrote:Alright, let's just jump right into this

have fun


*explosively snorts*

HAH