VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4

[Jezz92]

After looking over everything, here are my new reads list because the previous one i did was the first time i've ever made a read in that format and i guess i didn't do it correctly to my actual feelings
{Takumi, Soul}- strong town
{Jezz}- slight town
{Noping, Eragon, Phone, Mario}- slight town sometimes and slight scum other times
{Uzay}- strong scum

/vote Uzay

That's the only one I'm comfortable lynching today

Problem is i don't really think uzay is scum rn due to WIFOM stuff as well as my own special magical reason which i cannot talk about atm
who is your second lynch choice
what has phone and mario done to be considered "slight town sometimes"?

[Soulshade55r]

mario has been pretty inactive since day 2 lynch

maybe he has taken a backseat because scum pushing him looks good for mario but it was bussing :MegaThink:

Possible., I'm not going to say its impossible that mario is scum

[lemonader666]

TheDebil will be replacing Phone0Ix.

[TheDebil]

lol noping fight me

/vote noping

[TheDebil]

i'll be honest phone was my other big scumread but turns out he's just a prodger

brackets right now, haven't diven that much so not confident

{soul, eragon}
{takumi, tfios, jezz}
{uzay, mario}
{noping}

[TheDebil]

making a case later can't be bothered right now
i wasn't constantly under pressure except like one game so feel free to push me

[MoustachioMario]

mario what happened to your read on takumi/me from day 1?

You and Takumi is town

[MoustachioMario]

i'll be honest phone was my other big scumread but turns out he's just a prodger

brackets right now, haven't diven that much so not confident

{soul, eragon}
{takumi, tfios, jezz}
{uzay, mario}
{noping}

So am I in Null or scumlean?

[Eragon1329]

Why is Mario a scumlean(or null)
Why is uzay a scumlean(or null)

Why is noping a Scumread

Why is tfios a townlean

How am I higher than TakumiHijirihara in your reads

[MoustachioMario]

mario has been pretty inactive since day 2 lynch

maybe he has taken a backseat because scum pushing him looks good for mario but it was bussing :MegaThink:

Possible., I'm not going to say its impossible that mario is scum

Or maybe Mario was inactive because he had stuff going on irl

[TheDebil]

i'll be honest phone was my other big scumread but turns out he's just a prodger

brackets right now, haven't diven that much so not confident

{soul, eragon}
{takumi, tfios, jezz}
{uzay, mario}
{noping}

So am I in Null or scumlean?

scumlean. im trying to have no null reads.

[MoustachioMario]

i'll be honest phone was my other big scumread but turns out he's just a prodger

brackets right now, haven't diven that much so not confident

{soul, eragon}
{takumi, tfios, jezz}
{uzay, mario}
{noping}

So am I in Null or scumlean?

scumlean. im trying to have no null reads.

why am I in scumlean

[UzayAltay]

i'll be honest phone was my other big scumread but turns out he's just a prodger

brackets right now, haven't diven that much so not confident

{soul, eragon}
{takumi, tfios, jezz} - Assuming This is Null line , bolds are The ones I want You explain
{uzay, mario}
{noping}

-PS - Actually , explain All Except Soul .

[TheDebil]

Why is Mario a scumlean(or null)
reads are absolutely random. homeboy pulls out a takumi memevote, finds a random reason to vote him while practically confirming tankumi's read that "mafia aren't pushing for a CFD" by pushing on takumi. then starts pushing on jezz, and now for magical reasons he thinks they are both town.
also, the argument with chemist doesn't give him any credit, i think it's NAI. it's chemist disagreeing with mario. it isn't gonna impact mario much and only makes chemist look better, so a win-win even if he is scum or town. it still might be in his town meta but i don't understand him at all this game.
Why is uzay a scumlean(or null)
his very first post pings interest in me. from the games i've seen he is the one person who most eagerly points out PR softs and slips and he thinks it's helpful to town but in this game he is suddenly against it? seems like a towncred grab and a bit hypocritical already. rest of the posts seem pretty basic, it's not a strong read but none of the posts really ping that he is town.
Why is noping a Scumread
will do that one later. i just remembered scumreding noping when following along with the thread but forgot the reason. will have to reread again to find it. also, she really wanted to buddy with jezz. there are like 10 posts dedicated to just that. also don't really enjoy the hammer on chemist as i personally think it was orchestrated. not sure why someone would put it at L-1 in the first place though(although it might have been chemist). ill probably make a deeper analysis on a separate post later
Why is tfios a townlean
it's mostly gut, i like their posts so far. nothing scummy really stands out. it's probably the read that's closest to null but i think their overall vibe is towny to me
How am I higher than TakumiHijirihara in your reads

takumi isn't conftown to me

Just don’t autochain lynch noping and eragon when I flip town as I’m pretty sure they can’t both be scum tbh

wait wasnt your meme post me wabbit u not me eragon u

where did this eragon association come from

is eragon even playing

eragon is pretty much town because of this single post imo. right now if i think noping is scum i have to think eragon is town due to PoE


takumi like many people say critical and scumhunty, i like a lot of their posts.

jezz i also like a few of their posts.

i can't really go into much detail as it's easiest for me to formulate leads by playing the game which i haven't really done yet
i'll reread right now and see if i can make anything better i've been busy catching up with school rn

[tfiosforevah]

After looking over everything, here are my new reads list because the previous one i did was the first time i've ever made a read in that format and i guess i didn't do it correctly to my actual feelings
{Takumi, Soul}- strong town
{Jezz}- slight town
{Noping, Eragon, Phone, Mario}- slight town sometimes and slight scum other times
{Uzay}- strong scum

/vote Uzay

That's the only one I'm comfortable lynching today

Problem is i don't really think uzay is scum rn due to WIFOM stuff as well as my own special magical reason which i cannot talk about atm
who is your second lynch choice
what has phone and mario done to be considered "slight town sometimes"?

Mario was mainly the TVS with chemist, but I guess that also could be seen as potential bussing. I didn’t like them before, especially with jumping on the wagon (crimsons I believe?) with no real reasoning. Phone, whenever they posted I had no strong gut feelings they were scum, but the inactivity was a little much. I guess my second lynch choice would be phone if their replacement doesn’t have anything good to say , but if they do then my second is Mario

/vote unvote

Sleep deprived me thought it was a good idea to start the voting but now that I’ve had rest I’m not sure if voting. Should be started yet. Doesn’t mean you’re off the hook, uzay

[UzayAltay]

Okay , Actually , I need to contribute now , but I was very Busy and I am tired atm .
So , it would probably be better I make reads after A good sleep .
But , I Will be around here about 2 hours ( still A bit Busy , so it may be 15-20 minute gap between your question and my answer ) before sleeping for answering any question directed to me .

I probably could make my reads tomorrow , and vote for The best target I believe would flip scum .

[MoustachioMario]

Okay , Actually , I need to contribute now , but I was very Busy and I am tired atm .
So , it would probably be better I make reads after A good sleep .
But , I Will be around here about 2 hours ( still A bit Busy , so it may be 15-20 minute gap between your question and my answer ) before sleeping for answering any question directed to me .

I probably could make my reads tomorrow , and vote for The best target I believe would flip scum .

What is your read on me?

[TheDebil]

don't think chemist wagon is pure, im pretty sure most people noticed that chemist's defense was pretty bad so i think even scum would vote on chemist if they were around to avoid fucking themselves over, it really depends if scum was around or not.
chemist could have used soul's fairly suspicious push as a counter but he instead CC'd which was a bad move imo. he could have claimed cit and said "i can't visit anyone you stinky liar lol". or even better, cc bodydouble. (but im p sure chemist was around for juck claiming that and soul claimed his role a bit later)

another reason for jezz to not be scum is the D1 wagon and i agree with takumi's tinfoil. initially mario scumread them both for that and i sort of agreed that is a possibility but him retracting the read and suddenly claiming that they are both town seems pretty random to me.

[tfiosforevah]

- snip -

to elaborate on above, i might be influenced on other people's reads of eragon and that could be why i'm leaning scum, but other than that i really don't have much to say. for uzay, i feel like they're asking the wrong questions at the wrong times, and it could be a disguise of someone seeming like they're interested in finding scum whereas they're actually scum themselves. idk, could just be me overanalyzing

Can You give examples " asking wrong questions at wrong times ? " You asked for defense at later , but in really , Unless You give examples , I hope You Dont Wait me Explaining every single post of Mine from my ISO , right ? This would be just A huge time waste for me .

I’m on mobile rn, but when I get my laptop I’ll give you the examples

[UzayAltay]

Why is Mario a scumlean(or null)
reads are absolutely random. homeboy pulls out a takumi memevote, finds a random reason to vote him while practically confirming tankumi's read that "mafia aren't pushing for a CFD" by pushing on takumi. then starts pushing on jezz, and now for magical reasons he thinks they are both town.
also, the argument with chemist doesn't give him any credit, i think it's NAI. it's chemist disagreeing with mario. it isn't gonna impact mario much and only makes chemist look better, so a win-win even if he is scum or town. it still might be in his town meta but i don't understand him at all this game.
Why is uzay a scumlean(or null)
his very first post pings interest in me. from the games i've seen he is the one person who most eagerly points out PR softs and slips and he thinks it's helpful to town but in this game he is suddenly against it? seems like a towncred grab and a bit hypocritical already. rest of the posts seem pretty basic, it's not a strong read but none of the posts really ping that he is town.
Why is noping a Scumread
will do that one later. i just remembered scumreding noping when following along with the thread but forgot the reason. will have to reread again to find it. also, she really wanted to buddy with jezz. there are like 10 posts dedicated to just that. also don't really enjoy the hammer on chemist as i personally think it was orchestrated. not sure why someone would put it at L-1 in the first place though(although it might have been chemist). ill probably make a deeper analysis on a separate post later
Why is tfios a townlean
it's mostly gut, i like their posts so far. nothing scummy really stands out. it's probably the read that's closest to null but i think their overall vibe is towny to me
How am I higher than TakumiHijirihara in your reads

takumi isn't conftown to me

Just don’t autochain lynch noping and eragon when I flip town as I’m pretty sure they can’t both be scum tbh

wait wasnt your meme post me wabbit u not me eragon u

where did this eragon association come from

is eragon even playing

eragon is pretty much town because of this single post imo. right now if i think noping is scum i have to think eragon is town due to PoE


takumi like many people say critical and scumhunty, i like a lot of their posts.

jezz i also like a few of their posts.

i can't really go into much detail as it's easiest for me to formulate leads by playing the game which i haven't really done yet
i'll reread right now and see if i can make anything better i've been busy catching up with school rn

2 PRs come on , Okay I would normally point Softs ( If it is obvious ) but at there We had 5-6-7 PRs generally , We had just 2 PR here , and I experienced at First hard How can scum pul sth Like 9v2 when PRs removed .

[TheDebil]

day ends in 30h so i'll do my case tommorow or later townight as i am extremely lazy. for some reason i thought it ended tommorow morning for me so i rushed.

[MoustachioMario]

/vote Uzay

[TheDebil]

2 PRs come on , Okay I would normally point Softs ( If it is obvious ) but at there We had 5-6-7 PRs generally , We had just 2 PR here , and I experienced at First hard How can scum pul sth Like 9v2 when PRs removed .

ok, that's fair enough.

[UzayAltay]

Okay , Actually , I need to contribute now , but I was very Busy and I am tired atm .
So , it would probably be better I make reads after A good sleep .
But , I Will be around here about 2 hours ( still A bit Busy , so it may be 15-20 minute gap between your question and my answer ) before sleeping for answering any question directed to me .

I probably could make my reads tomorrow , and vote for The best target I believe would flip scum .

What is your read on me?

TBH Jezz's explanation on You seems logical . Generally , I was leaning on town , but Will say final read when saying Everyone's read , Because I need to organize my reads and post , and Will read everyone's ISOs again for not making A mistake at reads .

[Jezz92]

i'll be honest phone was my other big scumread but turns out he's just a prodger

brackets right now, haven't diven that much so not confident

{soul, eragon}
{takumi, tfios, jezz}
{uzay, mario}
{noping}

Did you see that soul tracked uzay to no one last night? Since he was on the wagon I don’t really think he could have preempted being tracked especially if mafia was off wagon too. If there’s somehow two scum that voted chemist different story, but in the the scenario of one mafia bussing, one mafia not bussing, why would they send their non bussing mafia to kill instead of the bussing one?

Also why is noping your strongest scum read?