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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:19 am

non271103 wrote:
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Eragon1329 wrote:Oh wait was that not this game?


Fuck was that real life?

What are you high on
Pls share some with me thx


I’m on sleep

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Where can I get some of that



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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby non271103 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:20 am

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KoolKid777 wrote:https://i.imgur.com/NE1GWTY.png


PL all newbies then

Your thought process is too simple. Stoldi is in this game for sure, but as someone we will never think of.

Obviously he is alzar
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:21 am

non271103 wrote:
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KoolKid777 wrote:https://i.imgur.com/NE1GWTY.png


PL all newbies then

Your thought process is too simple. Stoldi is in this game for sure, but as someone we will never think of.

Obviously he is alzar


NO!

THE GREAT NYALZAR WOULD NEVER BETRAY US
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:22 am

Chemist should I do spicy plays 4 life
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby HeyYaStand » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:23 am

How about you do them anyways?
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:23 am

HeyYaStand wrote:How about you do them anyways?


Why would I listen to your opinion?

You think tokoyami isn’t best boi.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:24 am

Eragon1329 wrote:Chemist should I do spicy plays 4 life

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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby HeyYaStand » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:24 am

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HeyYaStand wrote:How about you do them anyways?


Why would I listen to your opinion?

You think tokoyami isn’t best boi.

And I’m right.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:25 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:Chemist should I do spicy plays 4 life

memes


I’ll take this as a yes.


Give me a couple minutes to do it
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby taylork2 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:28 am

Eragon1329 wrote:
non271103 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
KoolKid777 wrote:https://i.imgur.com/NE1GWTY.png


PL all newbies then

Your thought process is too simple. Stoldi is in this game for sure, but as someone we will never think of.

Obviously he is alzar


NO!

THE GREAT NYALZAR WOULD NEVER BETRAY US

He betrayed you. He always betrays you.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Pregame)

Postby TheWabbit » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:28 am

Multiuniverse wrote:I'm sad they didn't kill me
In other news my role is negative utility if used incorrectly and I don't know how to use it correctly lul

easy D1 pass
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:30 am

Varanus was mafia that killed himself so he can get a win for doing nothing.

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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:30 am

A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, and I will never be rescinding. I am the cop. When it becomes prudent I will provide my check.

Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as the cop. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the cop cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all Ihave to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally know that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not $#@! up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 26 players you need to try to read, rather than 27: I have already provided a "free" check of me in a game with a mere 13 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am the cop, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of doing this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the wolves when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:30 am

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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Pregame)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:31 am

TheWabbit wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:I'm sad they didn't kill me
In other news my role is negative utility if used incorrectly and I don't know how to use it correctly lul

easy D1 pass



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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby HeyYaStand » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:31 am

/vote jucktripy

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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:31 am

mfw you want to call someone wolfy for tryharding this early
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:32 am

Chemist1422 wrote:mfw you want to call someone wolfy for tryharding this early


you wanted me to do spicy plays

blame yourself
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:32 am

Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:mfw you want to call someone wolfy for tryharding this early


you wanted me to do spicy plays

blame yourself

Not you, Wabbit
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby HeyYaStand » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:32 am

Chemist1422 wrote:mfw you want to call someone wolfy for tryharding this early

Do it.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:32 am

Chemist1422 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:mfw you want to call someone wolfy for tryharding this early


you wanted me to do spicy plays

blame yourself

Not you, Wabbit



he's said 3 words
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:33 am

EvilDeanius0 wrote:Varanus was mafia that killed himself so he can get a win for doing nothing.

Also claiming miller



:ThinkEyes: :ThinkEyes:


N0 green on EvilD
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:34 am

Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:mfw you want to call someone wolfy for tryharding this early


you wanted me to do spicy plays

blame yourself

Not you, Wabbit



he's said 3 words

Exactly
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Pregame)

Postby TheWabbit » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:34 am

Eragon1329 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:I'm sad they didn't kill me
In other news my role is negative utility if used incorrectly and I don't know how to use it correctly lul

Just use it for memes

That's what I'm doing


My role is only positive utility for me :3

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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day one)

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:34 am

Eragon1329 wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Varanus was mafia that killed himself so he can get a win for doing nothing.

Also claiming miller



:ThinkEyes: :ThinkEyes:


N0 green on EvilD

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