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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:53 pm

No, bastard doesn’t break integrity.

Bastard means the game state can rapidly change due to mechanics which you cannot play around. It doesn’t mean someone learns the entire mafia team and then gets converted to town and says them all. Like, I wanted to have a town conversion role in blaming so I literally had to modkill the player when they went from scum to town as a hidden mechanic in their rolecard, and I had a sub lined up already to take the slot. You have to go to lengths like that to make mafia->town conversion work.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:53 pm

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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby taylork2 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:55 pm

ryanyb wrote:I don’t think the games integrity has been broken.

That would break game integrity.

Wish granter and Sorcerer. >.>
It's just lucky they haven't yet. Simeone could have wished for someone they knew were scum to be converted to town and then integrity is it's that way.
I say this game has very little integrity.

In fac, THIS GAME WAS NOT THOUGHT OUT, it's a miracle it haisn't been bent in half and broken apart yet.
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Spoiler: CFM18:alouvre/Misdreavus=Loss
SFM21:Naoto Shirogane=Win
CFM17:milte/Blinzer=Win
CFM16:Rogue=Loss
CFM15:Saitama=Win
9B:Veteran=Win
CFM14:Red Spy=Loss
8E:Escort=Win
CFM13:Mettaton=Loss
8C: Goyle Sr.=Win
CFM12:Vo Matoran=Win
CFM11:Mad Man=Loss
7H:Framer=Win
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:59 pm

But Evan was the one who ultimately decided how to integrate the wish. In the ita example, he capped it at one hour one shot per person. He made it bastard, not integrity breaking. Evan wouldn’t do something presumably that would break the game with the wish caster and I’d wager there was a clause in the rolecard about that.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby taylork2 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:01 am

ryanyb wrote:But Evan was the one who ultimately decided how to integrate the wish. In the ita example, he capped it at one hour one shot per person. He made it bastard, not integrity breaking. Evan wouldn’t do something presumably that would break the game with the wish caster and I’d wager there was a clause in the rolecard about that.

No, I know for a fact this game has little integrity in terms of more complex mechanics.
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FM Wins/Loss Record:
Spoiler: CFM18:alouvre/Misdreavus=Loss
SFM21:Naoto Shirogane=Win
CFM17:milte/Blinzer=Win
CFM16:Rogue=Loss
CFM15:Saitama=Win
9B:Veteran=Win
CFM14:Red Spy=Loss
8E:Escort=Win
CFM13:Mettaton=Loss
8C: Goyle Sr.=Win
CFM12:Vo Matoran=Win
CFM11:Mad Man=Loss
7H:Framer=Win
7F:Medium=Win
GFM:Bodyguard=Win
6E:Citizen=Loss
CFM4:Arcane=Loss
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby JamesD28 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:38 am

RedDragonHeart wrote:why isn't kmenx dead yet?

Why do you think he should be?
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby JamesD28 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:39 am

RedDragonHeart wrote:i have mind reading powers but kmenx's presence is clouding it so i need to get rid of them

vote: kmenx

Is it something to do with this
it sounds role related rather than a meme but idk
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby taylork2 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:48 am

/vote RedDragon

I'm going to
I'm going to stump him if we don't lynch him today.
Lynch him.
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FM Wins/Loss Record:
Spoiler: CFM18:alouvre/Misdreavus=Loss
SFM21:Naoto Shirogane=Win
CFM17:milte/Blinzer=Win
CFM16:Rogue=Loss
CFM15:Saitama=Win
9B:Veteran=Win
CFM14:Red Spy=Loss
8E:Escort=Win
CFM13:Mettaton=Loss
8C: Goyle Sr.=Win
CFM12:Vo Matoran=Win
CFM11:Mad Man=Loss
7H:Framer=Win
7F:Medium=Win
GFM:Bodyguard=Win
6E:Citizen=Loss
CFM4:Arcane=Loss
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby jucktropy » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:02 am

/RedDragon

BTW i thought dead people can't join Events
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby JamesD28 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:08 am

/vote RedDragon
Either would be fine but don't want taylork to waste a stump
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby JamesD28 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:08 am

jucktropy wrote:/RedDragon

BTW i thought dead people can't join Events

Apparently they can now
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby Kmenx » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:09 am

/vote Reddragon ye sure
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby jucktropy » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:10 am

JamesD28 wrote:
jucktropy wrote:/RedDragon

BTW i thought dead people can't join Events

Apparently they can now


sad i had good NE Role :/
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby EvanManManMan » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:01 am

Jord has received his second prod and will be subbed out
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:05 am

Don’t stump an empty slot tonight because that would be stupid
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby taylork2 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:08 am

Juck protect me tonight, we'll win this through town KP.
Noping just in case Ryan's Maid alignment theory is correct, don't take my role, as you might be non-town attempting to gain extra KP/remove it from town. Also don't take Juck's role.

Personally I'd recommend taking Non's role for the possible Sorcerer/Wishmaker variant.
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FM Wins/Loss Record:
Spoiler: CFM18:alouvre/Misdreavus=Loss
SFM21:Naoto Shirogane=Win
CFM17:milte/Blinzer=Win
CFM16:Rogue=Loss
CFM15:Saitama=Win
9B:Veteran=Win
CFM14:Red Spy=Loss
8E:Escort=Win
CFM13:Mettaton=Loss
8C: Goyle Sr.=Win
CFM12:Vo Matoran=Win
CFM11:Mad Man=Loss
7H:Framer=Win
7F:Medium=Win
GFM:Bodyguard=Win
6E:Citizen=Loss
CFM4:Arcane=Loss
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:09 am

Both juck and kmenx are fine targets stump at your digression.

P-edit agreed.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby taylork2 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:10 am

ryanyb wrote:Don’t stump an empty slot tonight because that would be stupid

Who do you think you're talking to?
Someone who doesn't make bad decisions?
Le pain train est arrivant.

FM Wins/Loss Record:
Spoiler: CFM18:alouvre/Misdreavus=Loss
SFM21:Naoto Shirogane=Win
CFM17:milte/Blinzer=Win
CFM16:Rogue=Loss
CFM15:Saitama=Win
9B:Veteran=Win
CFM14:Red Spy=Loss
8E:Escort=Win
CFM13:Mettaton=Loss
8C: Goyle Sr.=Win
CFM12:Vo Matoran=Win
CFM11:Mad Man=Loss
7H:Framer=Win
7F:Medium=Win
GFM:Bodyguard=Win
6E:Citizen=Loss
CFM4:Arcane=Loss
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:10 am

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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:13 am

This is why I am here.
To stop you from making stupid decisions.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby taylork2 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:34 am

Also Endgame theory: Noping, Tarpley, and RedDragon are scumteam.
This will make once you learn Noping's original role.
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FM Wins/Loss Record:
Spoiler: CFM18:alouvre/Misdreavus=Loss
SFM21:Naoto Shirogane=Win
CFM17:milte/Blinzer=Win
CFM16:Rogue=Loss
CFM15:Saitama=Win
9B:Veteran=Win
CFM14:Red Spy=Loss
8E:Escort=Win
CFM13:Mettaton=Loss
8C: Goyle Sr.=Win
CFM12:Vo Matoran=Win
CFM11:Mad Man=Loss
7H:Framer=Win
7F:Medium=Win
GFM:Bodyguard=Win
6E:Citizen=Loss
CFM4:Arcane=Loss
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:43 am

I feel like the odds of two basically empty slots and noping being scum together is slim.
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:43 am

Not both dragon and tarpley
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby taylork2 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:44 am

ryanyb wrote:I feel like the odds of two basically empty slots and noping being scum together is slim.

There's three total fyi
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FM Wins/Loss Record:
Spoiler: CFM18:alouvre/Misdreavus=Loss
SFM21:Naoto Shirogane=Win
CFM17:milte/Blinzer=Win
CFM16:Rogue=Loss
CFM15:Saitama=Win
9B:Veteran=Win
CFM14:Red Spy=Loss
8E:Escort=Win
CFM13:Mettaton=Loss
8C: Goyle Sr.=Win
CFM12:Vo Matoran=Win
CFM11:Mad Man=Loss
7H:Framer=Win
7F:Medium=Win
GFM:Bodyguard=Win
6E:Citizen=Loss
CFM4:Arcane=Loss
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Re: SFM52: Bastard Mess (Day two)

Postby ryanyb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:45 am

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