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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby TheDebil » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:25 am

EvilDeanius0 wrote:Debil being rolestopped would be make sense for Joltik being unable to visit them. Since he was considered scummy by some players, it could have been scum preventing TIs from checking him. But this then doesn't explain how Debil was disrupted, unless his target was transported.

i wasnt able to visit anyone last night. someone visited me to disrupt me, that's why i think i was roleblocked, possibly by escort because i was scumread pretty heavily. i can't explain the rolestop part though. best thing i can think of is a role that would prevent me from visiting and prevent others from visiting me
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:26 am

ElusiveBelle wrote:Commuter is also a thing which should probably be claimed if that is the case, not that it would be that believable but it would help to clarify what is going on. Not sure why would commute on N1 however.

Also for those of the mindset that scum is slanking, whom would you suspect it to be if that were the case?

What is commuter ? I am hearing that First time .
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby hereisme » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:27 am

Chemist1422 wrote:Treating my role as a protective, they looked really towny off of Cenvil's flip and were a likely target by mafia

With your choice, it seemed more plausible to me.
IIRC you were already town reading Spectator during Day One.
Prior to the flip of Cenvil.
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby hereisme » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:29 am

TheDebil wrote:i wasnt able to visit anyone last night. someone visited me to disrupt me, that's why i think i was roleblocked, possibly by escort because i was scumread pretty heavily. i can't explain the rolestop part though. best thing i can think of is a role that would prevent me from visiting and prevent others from visiting me

This is what seems most likely to me.
Given that Joltik had the unable to visit result.
With a regular roleblock, Joltik still would have been able to visit.
Not sure how many roles cause this to happen though.
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:32 am

TheDebil wrote:
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Debil being rolestopped would be make sense for Joltik being unable to visit them. Since he was considered scummy by some players, it could have been scum preventing TIs from checking him. But this then doesn't explain how Debil was disrupted, unless his target was transported.

i wasnt able to visit anyone last night. someone visited me to disrupt me, that's why i think i was roleblocked, possibly by escort because i was scumread pretty heavily. i can't explain the rolestop part though. best thing i can think of is a role that would prevent me from visiting and prevent others from visiting me

Btw why claiming PR ?
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:33 am

Like I believed The claim but whatever
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby TheDebil » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:34 am

UzayAltay wrote:Btw why claiming PR ?

cit is also unable to visit anyone
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:36 am

TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Btw why claiming PR ?

cit is also unable to visit anyone

You Said You were visited by A role which prevents You from visiting .
It is A PR claim Obviously .
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby TheDebil » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:38 am

UzayAltay wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Btw why claiming PR ?

cit is also unable to visit anyone

You Said You were visited by A role which prevents You from visiting .
It is A PR claim Obviously .

well think about it this way, how can my target be transported if i cannot visit anyone in the first place? the only explanation is someone visiting me. so my comment means nothing
either way, lets end this convo here.
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby hereisme » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:38 am

UzayAltay wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Btw why claiming PR ?

cit is also unable to visit anyone

You Said You were visited by A role which prevents You from visiting .
It is A PR claim Obviously .

Why are you trying to out a possible PR anyway?
There's already been a lot of claims.
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby ElusiveBelle » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:42 am

UzayAltay wrote:
ElusiveBelle wrote:Commuter is also a thing which should probably be claimed if that is the case, not that it would be that believable but it would help to clarify what is going on. Not sure why would commute on N1 however.

Also for those of the mindset that scum is slanking, whom would you suspect it to be if that were the case?

What is commuter ? I am hearing that First time .

Commuter essentially removes themselves from the game at night making them untargetable to everything. Usually X shot and not infinite
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:42 am

hereisme wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Btw why claiming PR ?

cit is also unable to visit anyone

You Said You were visited by A role which prevents You from visiting .
It is A PR claim Obviously .

Why are you trying to out a possible PR anyway?
There's already been a lot of claims.

He OpenClaimed , or PR slipped with A very obvious way .
Would it be better If I hadnt Show it , and If TPs ( or trans ) Dont see it when scum Sees , and he NK ed , would it be better ? Definitely no .
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby hereisme » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:46 am

UzayAltay wrote:He OpenClaimed , or PR slipped with A very obvious way .
Would it be better If I hadnt Show it , and If TPs ( or trans ) Dont see it when scum Sees , and he NK ed , would it be better ? Definitely no .

You still pushed after they said "cit is also unable to visit".
That felt wolfy to me.
Just saying you pinged me there.
I wanted to have it in ISO for future reference.
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:47 am

UzayAltay wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:anyways yeah i can say that scum is currently coasting right now

gonna pinpoint who's likely to be scum but i can say that they didn't involve themselves in my d1 plans

I hopped onto Elusive (although less agressively than XVI.1) to try and force something out. There was nothing to go on at first, but I tried bringing the game onto others when Elusive made posts that stood out.

Basically the plan was to make a mess that people would be forced to participate in. It was supposed to be destructive enough to bother everyone. I tried to flash attention onto myself directly by explicitly mentioning (and repeating a few more times) how talking about neutrals wastes time, but that didn't get reception as well. The Elusive push was planned to force others to step out of their memezone, but I guess others took a hint when I forgot to drop a vote.

basically yeah town suck it up scum are blending well because it's becoming indistinguishable between slanking town and coasting scum

What is your opinion on Elusive ? TBH I want to read Elu , but I hadnt been sure on Elu when reading The ISO .


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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:48 am

UzayAltay wrote:
hereisme wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Btw why claiming PR ?

cit is also unable to visit anyone

You Said You were visited by A role which prevents You from visiting .
It is A PR claim Obviously .

Why are you trying to out a possible PR anyway?
There's already been a lot of claims.

He OpenClaimed , or PR slipped with A very obvious way .
Would it be better If I hadnt Show it , and If TPs ( or trans ) Dont see it when scum Sees , and he NK ed , would it be better ? Definitely no .

Like only reason I am thinking he Actually slipped without realizing is him denying it .
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby Royee » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:57 am

UzayAltay wrote:/vote Chaos202

TBH The Last things he made was when Dirtyprodger was in play , and even his name as Dirtyprodger .
I am thinking he is Trying to FUTR as scum .

honestly i dont think a scum would meme in all of his posts in the end of the day.
EvilDeanius0 wrote:Debil being rolestopped would be make sense for Joltik being unable to visit them. Since he was considered scummy by some players, it could have been scum preventing TIs from checking him. But this then doesn't explain how Debil was disrupted, unless his target was transported.

this makes sense so i think it is unlikely that debil hit a transported person. debil claims rbed doesnt mean he can visit
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:58 am

hereisme wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:He OpenClaimed , or PR slipped with A very obvious way .
Would it be better If I hadnt Show it , and If TPs ( or trans ) Dont see it when scum Sees , and he NK ed , would it be better ? Definitely no .

You still pushed after they said "cit is also unable to visit".
That felt wolfy to me.
Just saying you pinged me there.
I wanted to have it in ISO for future reference.

Than Why only I pinged You when Elusive Literally started This Discussion ? Everyone could guess it is possible Debil may visited possible trans target , Elu pointed it , Than Debil PRslipped , Than Why I point This I became suspicious .
Be sure that I wont point This as scum . And I Dont believe If there is an obvious soft/slip , pointing This Harms town, I am not even accepting The Ping here , and I wont defense against anything Like " Why You pointed This " after that post .
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby hereisme » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:01 pm

UzayAltay wrote:Than Why only I pinged You when Elusive Literally started This Discussion ? Everyone could guess it is possible Debil may visited possible trans target , Elu pointed it , Than Debil PRslipped , Than Why I point This I became suspicious .
Be sure that I wont point This as scum . And I Dont believe If there is an obvious soft/slip , pointing This Harms town, I am not even accepting The Ping here , and I wont defense against anything Like " Why You pointed This " after that post .

There's no reason to get defensive, I simply said it pinged me.
I didn't say "SCUM!" and point at you.
I'm just wanting it in my ISO for future reference.
The conversation with Elusive is already in my ISO.
BUT thank you for clarifying yourself.
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 1 A Spooky Start)

Postby LinearPoint » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:03 pm

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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby TheDebil » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:05 pm

ElusiveBelle wrote:Also for those of the mindset that scum is slanking, whom would you suspect it to be if that were the case?

this is a good question
im suspicious of joltik because he was lurking before (sorry if angleshooting), and didn't say anything. at all.
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby TheDebil » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:06 pm

@host i voted for phone
ill do it again
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby hereisme » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:06 pm

@Mario + Chemist + EvilD
Do any of you want to make a PbPA for Debil?
That might be useful to see how they're scummy.
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby MoustachioMario » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:07 pm

hereisme wrote:@Mario + Chemist + EvilD
Do any of you want to make a PbPA for Debil?
That might be useful to see how they're scummy.


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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 2 Redemption)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:07 pm

UzayAltay wrote:/vote Chaos202

TBH The Last things he made was when Dirtyprodger was in play , and even his name as Dirtyprodger .
I am thinking he is Trying to FUTR as scum .

kinda hesitant on this because he slanked early on VFM40 as well
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Re: FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Day 1 A Spooky Start)

Postby TheWabbit » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:08 pm

MoustachioMario wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Wait , Did Mario read somebody ?
It is Interesting , even though I havent convinced it is A scumslip .



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I thought Phone slipped, but when they said it was your post it means you slipped :D

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