FM 17B | Spooky's Mafia (Humans Survive)

[JoltikIsDubby]

yeah so how does chemist know spec visited them with the disruptions

If chemist is claiming redirector that redirected me to target him that means I visited either him or James.
I couldn’t have visited both since I’m a lookout that saw a visitor to whoever it was I ended up watching.

If that’s not what he’s claiming then idk

If you claim to see a visitor, then why wouldnt he just say who did he visit?

Idk hopefully he’ll clarify it later
If I tell my full result I out another visiting role, which they could be scum ofc but they could still be town. I don’t wanna out it till I’m sure I know what’s going on with these redirects.[/quote]
What do you mean you hope he'll clarify it later? There's a very high chance the visitor won't know that you saw him, especially with all these disruptions and shit.

[JoltikIsDubby]

yeah so how does chemist know spec visited them with the disruptions

If chemist is claiming redirector that redirected me to target him that means I visited either him or James.
I couldn’t have visited both since I’m a lookout that saw a visitor to whoever it was I ended up watching.

If that’s not what he’s claiming then idk

If you claim to see a visitor, then why wouldnt he just say who did he visit?

Idk hopefully he’ll clarify it later
If I tell my full result I out another visiting role, which they could be scum ofc but they could still be town. I don’t wanna out it till I’m sure I know what’s going on with these redirects.

What do you mean you hope he'll clarify it later? There's a very high chance the visitor won't know that you saw him, especially with all these disruptions and shit.

ebwop

I don't even know how that happened lol

[Multiuniverse]

Maybe Debil's target was the second transport target?

no

?

[JoltikIsDubby]

Maybe Debil's target was the second transport target?

no

?

Debil said he thought he was RB'ed

[TheSpectator109]

Yeah okay so there is a chance I saw a transporter or equivalent type role.
Whether it’d be town or scum idk yet. That would depend on who they swapped with James if this is what happened here.

I don’t feel like I need to out the visitor I saw yet as I’m still unsure whether this is what actually happened, but will see how today goes and what this person does.

If there was no transporter input and I was actually redirected twice, the second redirector isn’t gonna out since it’s more than likely scum, and it also means I have no idea who I actually watched meaning the person I saw visit could just “go along with it” if they’re scum and I out them now. I guess it locks them into a claim but I don’t think that’s a priority rn.

James/chemist I think are both legit in terms of night actions, but not confirmed alignment-wise.


Re: debil/joltik, I didn’t wanna talk about that before because it potentially assumed debil’s role and we already had 2 hard claims and 2 soft claims at the time. But because debil basically denied being able to prevent visits since I said that, there’s a problem there.

[Multiuniverse]

eh

[TheSpectator109]

Okay so

Chemist - targeted spectator, caused visitors to spectator to be redirected to target chemist
James - targeted spectator, made spectator target James, wasn’t affected by chemist because he’s immune to disruptions
Spectator - disrupted twice, once by James, once by someone unknown but it isn’t a role block since spectator still saw a visitor
Debil - disrupted, someone unknown, could be roleblocker or redirector

This is all correct yes?

I'm busier than I'd like to be today but all this just seems a mess. I'm not sold on everyone involved being town and find it highly unlikely.

Is there also a list of who claimed disrupted? Not including these here involved in this debacle? That's a lot of results considering only who gets results.

No one else claimed disrupted.

[MoustachioMario]

So when I was looking through isos I found Scumslip

[MoustachioMario]

'Low ammount of posts that have any content and read list is flimsy, with no actual meat behind it. Only scumread is cenvil, which is an extremely safe bet given how most of the town scumreads him too. maybe im biased, because my list would probably have 4 town and everyone else as scum. Overall very safe and low activity posts to perhaps avoid being scumread.'

*Is in top 10 of most posts I believe*

low activity yep totally.

And later I told I scumreaded YOU and TheSpectator. How could you have missed that?

If you were town why would you saw this?

[MoustachioMario]

Also the clean could have been double kill
I am not double btw

[TheSpectator109]

'Low ammount of posts that have any content and read list is flimsy, with no actual meat behind it. Only scumread is cenvil, which is an extremely safe bet given how most of the town scumreads him too. maybe im biased, because my list would probably have 4 town and everyone else as scum. Overall very safe and low activity posts to perhaps avoid being scumread.'

*Is in top 10 of most posts I believe*

low activity yep totally.

And later I told I scumreaded YOU and TheSpectator. How could you have missed that?

If you were town why would you saw this?

What?
Phone was quoting debil’s read on him

[MoustachioMario]

So debil slipped then

[EvilDeanius0]

Also the clean could have been double kill
I am not double btw

Would you think it would be better if a double came out as the double?

[MoustachioMario]

Also the clean could have been double kill
I am not double btw

Would you think it would be better if a double came out as the double?

No
Why would you come out as double?

[EvilDeanius0]

Also the clean could have been double kill
I am not double btw

Would you think it would be better if a double came out as the double?

No
Why would you come out as double?

No

[MoustachioMario]

Everyone vote debil
/vote debil

[TheDebil]

Maybe Debil's target was the second transport target?

no

?

Debil said he thought he was RB'ed

yes but no

@mario
town means the entire playerlist, but i appreciate you starting discussion
game was slowing down a bit

[MoustachioMario]

Maybe Debil's target was the second transport target?

no

?

Debil said he thought he was RB'ed

yes but no

@mario
town means the entire playerlist, but i appreciate you starting discussion
game was slowing down a bit

I would have said "since most of us are scunreading him"

[MoustachioMario]

Debil is scum since he scumslip
Problem solved

Why are you not voting?

[Tiltedcomedian]

Debil is scum since he scumslip
Problem solved

Why are you not voting?

because we like discussion time

why are you in such a hurry

[Chemist1422]

Daily check-in of confusion

I'm gonna do some VCA because reasons

[Chemist1422]

TheDebil|2|AlbanixAnubibus, EvilDeanius0;
0verki11|1|WitchHaven;
Chemist1422|2|TheWabbit, TheDebil;
Phone0Ix|1|UzayAltay;
Cenvil2|8|Multiuniverse, 0verki11, hereisme, JamesD28, Tiltedcomedian, Chaos202, ElusiveBelle, Cenvil2;
TheNiceOne16|1|JoltikIsDubby;
TheSpectator109|1|Phone0Ix

From this, Debil looks worse off, and I'd say there's 2 mafia in {0ver/JamesD/Tilted/Chaos/Elu/Multi/hereisme}

Leaning Tilted+0ver out of those

/vote TheDebil

If there's a double they should claim.

[LinearPoint]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
	#	Votes Until Majority

Not voting:
TheSpectator109, EvilDeanius0, ElusiveBelle, TheWabbit, TheDebil, UzayAltay, Royee, TheNiceOne16, Multiuniverse, 0verki11, hereisme, JamesD28, Tiltedcomedian, JoltikIsDubby, Chaos202, Phone0Ix

End of Day 2:

[Tiltedcomedian]

bad argument

I scumread Cenvil from the beginning even before they looked scummy, didn't dogpile on later

I would argue more for Elusive in my place

[Chemist1422]

bad argument

I scumread Cenvil from the beginning even before they looked scummy, didn't dogpile on later

I would argue more for Elusive in my place

Didn't say it was more likely you due to your wagon interactions

That only applies to 0ver