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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:46 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Albanix is a light townread just for dropping out a vote, even just on the host

FoS on Jalandh

/vote Chemist


Why does that warrant a vote?

It’s misguided certainly, but I don’t think it’s scummy?


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Why Do You think I voted Because I think This is scummy ?
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby ElderSivart » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:47 pm

Dash2 wrote:I've read through Jalandh's ISO and if anything this would at least be a decent justification for a LAMIST argument
Jalandh wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:When I randomized it with random.org i Got 4 't and 1 from all other


How does this help town in any way?

More convincing than the two Chemist quoted if nothing else.
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:50 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Albanix is a light townread just for dropping out a vote, even just on the host

FoS on Jalandh

/vote Chemist


Why does that warrant a vote?

It’s misguided certainly, but I don’t think it’s scummy?


( Not spoilering Because of short Quote , and only 1 post )
Why Do You think I voted Because I think This is scummy ?


Becuase...

You bolded part of the quote and voted chemist??

It implies that you voted becuase something let off about the bold
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Jalandh » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:52 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:@chemist, you admitted dash does it as BOTH alignments, so why can’t other people do it as town?

I never said he couldn’t. I said I found it more slightly more likely to come from scum!Jalandh


Can you reference a game where ive done something like that as scum!Jaland lol
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:53 pm

Jalandh wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:@chemist, you admitted dash does it as BOTH alignments, so why can’t other people do it as town?

I never said he couldn’t. I said I found it more slightly more likely to come from scum!Jalandh


Can you reference a game where ive done something like that as scum!Jaland lol


Why couldn’t it be the first game you’ve done it?

Why do they need a reference?
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:54 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Albanix is a light townread just for dropping out a vote, even just on the host

FoS on Jalandh

/vote Chemist


Why does that warrant a vote?

It’s misguided certainly, but I don’t think it’s scummy?


( Not spoilering Because of short Quote , and only 1 post )
Why Do You think I voted Because I think This is scummy ?


Becuase...

You bolded part of the quote and voted chemist??

It implies that you voted becuase something let off about the bold

Look at What I bolded
Than think What I Did
Than think What If I Did it Because The reason You wrote ?
Than realize it is A paradox / WIFOM
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Jalandh » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
Jalandh wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:@chemist, you admitted dash does it as BOTH alignments, so why can’t other people do it as town?

I never said he couldn’t. I said I found it more slightly more likely to come from scum!Jalandh


Can you reference a game where ive done something like that as scum!Jaland lol


Why couldn’t it be the first game you’ve done it?

Why do they need a reference?


BEcause the way he said he could find it more likely from scum!Jaland sounds like ive done it before and its something he can expect from me.

If ive never done it as scum!Jaland, then where does the foundation of "Found it more likely from scum!Jalandh" come from?
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby ElderSivart » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:56 pm

Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:56 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Albanix is a light townread just for dropping out a vote, even just on the host

FoS on Jalandh

/vote Chemist


Why does that warrant a vote?

It’s misguided certainly, but I don’t think it’s scummy?


( Not spoilering Because of short Quote , and only 1 post )
Why Do You think I voted Because I think This is scummy ?


Becuase...

You bolded part of the quote and voted chemist??

It implies that you voted becuase something let off about the bold

Look at What I bolded
Than think What I Did
Than think What If I Did it Because The reason You wrote ?
Than realize it is A paradox / WIFOM


oh shit lmao.

dash add another tally.

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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:56 pm

Jalandh wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Jalandh wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:@chemist, you admitted dash does it as BOTH alignments, so why can’t other people do it as town?

I never said he couldn’t. I said I found it more slightly more likely to come from scum!Jalandh


Can you reference a game where ive done something like that as scum!Jaland lol


Why couldn’t it be the first game you’ve done it?

Why do they need a reference?


BEcause the way he said he could find it more likely from scum!Jaland sounds like ive done it before and its something he can expect from me.

If ive never done it as scum!Jaland, then where does the foundation of "Found it more likely from scum!Jalandh" come from?


have you ever done it as town!jalandh?
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Jalandh » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:58 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
Jalandh wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:--Snipped--


BEcause the way he said he could find it more likely from scum!Jaland sounds like ive done it before and its something he can expect from me.

If ive never done it as scum!Jaland, then where does the foundation of "Found it more likely from scum!Jalandh" come from?


have you ever done it as town!jalandh?


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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:58 pm

ElderSivart wrote:Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.


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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:01 pm

ElderSivart wrote:Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.

I just wrote The All story about my vote without sb asking each part .
And Because of it is about just A vote , it seems meaningless .
TBH LAMİST Discussion seems meaningless to me , Unless Meta involves , for me , The First part seems of Chemist 's sentence ( Yes , again bolded part , )seems More valuable to discuss .
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:02 pm

Eragon1329 wrote:
ElderSivart wrote:Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.


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I couldnt take The joke about image.
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:03 pm

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Jalandh in Purgatory wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


Jalandh also in Purgatory wrote:
Jalandh wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


Also gonna post this again since we are serious now. This makes it harder on scum to win and easier for town since we can control who dies when as well.


Jalandh in purgatory as well wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Jalandh wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


honestly I'm probably being really stupid here, but "we only need three"
this seems like scum saying, "oh we don't focus on the whole team, we just need to get 3 of the 5 sent to hell"

This mind-set is crap, but I could see it coming from Noob!town!jal!


Note: We should take this game like a regular VFM, no special attributes, no shit. Just good ol' pure Town vs Maf.

find the 5 scum, find the 10 town

once you have the game solve, its simple, just Lynch the town during heavan and the scum during hell.


Side note notE: NEVER PUT SOMEONE TO L-1
if they are scum during heaven phase they will self hammer and end day and leave without associations on final hammer flip
Same goes for anyone on heavan phase(but town will probably keep the game going longer)


Ok no need to blow it out of context. Let me explain.

In regular FM, Mafia win if they can get 1 deepwolf and have them never be caught. They can do this a variety of ways, like bussing or letting another mafia take the fall.

Why do they do this? Because they don't need every member alive. Sacrifice one for the greater good.

However, this game changes that. Mafia can't afford to bus one member. It doesn't matter if only one mafia is alive. They still lose. It doesn't matter if even 2 are alive. As long as we get 3 mafia into hell, we win. I wasn't saying ignore the other 2. I was just pointing this out for those that might not notice.


also.
retrospective irony :3


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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Eragon1329 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:04 pm

Dash2 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
ElderSivart wrote:Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.


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how is that shade


becuase he is implying that uzay is scum w/out directly stating it.
hes beating around the bush with things likee

"it seems to me that you are writing a lot...

but you arent really writing anything at all"
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:06 pm

Eragon1329 wrote: Spoiler:
Jalandh in Purgatory wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


Jalandh also in Purgatory wrote:
Jalandh wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


Also gonna post this again since we are serious now. This makes it harder on scum to win and easier for town since we can control who dies when as well.


Jalandh in purgatory as well wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Jalandh wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


honestly I'm probably being really stupid here, but "we only need three"
this seems like scum saying, "oh we don't focus on the whole team, we just need to get 3 of the 5 sent to hell"

This mind-set is crap, but I could see it coming from Noob!town!jal!


Note: We should take this game like a regular VFM, no special attributes, no shit. Just good ol' pure Town vs Maf.

find the 5 scum, find the 10 town

once you have the game solve, its simple, just Lynch the town during heavan and the scum during hell.


Side note notE: NEVER PUT SOMEONE TO L-1
if they are scum during heaven phase they will self hammer and end day and leave without associations on final hammer flip
Same goes for anyone on heavan phase(but town will probably keep the game going longer)


Ok no need to blow it out of context. Let me explain.

In regular FM, Mafia win if they can get 1 deepwolf and have them never be caught. They can do this a variety of ways, like bussing or letting another mafia take the fall.

Why do they do this? Because they don't need every member alive. Sacrifice one for the greater good.

However, this game changes that. Mafia can't afford to bus one member. It doesn't matter if only one mafia is alive. They still lose. It doesn't matter if even 2 are alive. As long as we get 3 mafia into hell, we win. I wasn't saying ignore the other 2. I was just pointing this out for those that might not notice.


also.
retrospective irony :3


these are the posts from purgatory talking about mechanics

He was right We havent bussed A member
We All bussed 3 member
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Jalandh » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:08 pm

Eragon1329 wrote: Spoiler:
Jalandh in Purgatory wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


Jalandh also in Purgatory wrote:
Jalandh wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


Also gonna post this again since we are serious now. This makes it harder on scum to win and easier for town since we can control who dies when as well.


Jalandh in purgatory as well wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Jalandh wrote:Also want to point out something I noticed while reading. We dont need all mafia sent to hell to win. We only need 3.


honestly I'm probably being really stupid here, but "we only need three"
this seems like scum saying, "oh we don't focus on the whole team, we just need to get 3 of the 5 sent to hell"

This mind-set is crap, but I could see it coming from Noob!town!jal!


Note: We should take this game like a regular VFM, no special attributes, no shit. Just good ol' pure Town vs Maf.

find the 5 scum, find the 10 town

once you have the game solve, its simple, just Lynch the town during heavan and the scum during hell.


Side note notE: NEVER PUT SOMEONE TO L-1
if they are scum during heaven phase they will self hammer and end day and leave without associations on final hammer flip
Same goes for anyone on heavan phase(but town will probably keep the game going longer)


Ok no need to blow it out of context. Let me explain.

In regular FM, Mafia win if they can get 1 deepwolf and have them never be caught. They can do this a variety of ways, like bussing or letting another mafia take the fall.

Why do they do this? Because they don't need every member alive. Sacrifice one for the greater good.

However, this game changes that. Mafia can't afford to bus one member. It doesn't matter if only one mafia is alive. They still lose. It doesn't matter if even 2 are alive. As long as we get 3 mafia into hell, we win. I wasn't saying ignore the other 2. I was just pointing this out for those that might not notice.


also.
retrospective irony :3


these are the posts from purgatory talking about mechanics


Ok, how could I know that the mafia would do a bus circlejerk?
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:09 pm

Dash2 wrote:As we start the game, I would like to set some ground rules

1. If you are considering using the "Lol i'll act like scum so they won't night kill me" meta, stop.
2. I'm shooting anyone who unironically uses the term "meme phase"
3. [this rule was removed as we have no flavor this game]


1) So what meta am I supposed to use?
2) But meme phase is a thing, it just lasts from D1 to the end of the game.
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:10 pm

Dash2 wrote:I think that was just a comment on how hard it is to understand what uzay was saying

Elder wrote:Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.



Elder wrote:Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.



Elder wrote:Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.


Umm it is clear he isnt speaking about me being hard to understand .
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby kosmo16 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:10 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:When I randomized it with random.org i Got 4 't and 1 from all other


Well, that is an EV. I believe today's lynch will be pretty random, unless Mafia will get caught with TMI which is certainly possible in this setup.
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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby Jalandh » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:11 pm

EvilDeanius0 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:As we start the game, I would like to set some ground rules

1. If you are considering using the "Lol i'll act like scum so they won't night kill me" meta, stop.
2. I'm shooting anyone who unironically uses the term "meme phase"
3. [this rule was removed as we have no flavor this game]


1) So what meta am I supposed to use?
2) But meme phase is a thing, it just lasts from D1 to the end of the game.


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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:12 pm

AlbanixAnubibus wrote:Meta is ok if you use it correctly, not like:
"summit is scum cuz he didnt say lol in his first 17 posts XDXD"


That not really meta, that's just dumb.

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Eragon1329 wrote:
ElderSivart wrote:Uzay to me it seems like you're writing a lot of words without really saying anything at all.


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how is that shade


becuase he is implying that uzay is scum w/out directly stating it.
hes beating around the bush with things likee

"it seems to me that you are writing a lot...

but you arent really writing anything at all"

I wouldn't say it's shade, he's definitely implying that its scummy behaviour, but he's not also defending it in the same statement

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Re: 16G: C9# Day One (Don't say it. Don't think it.)

Postby kosmo16 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:13 pm

Dash2 wrote:ok evil is dying tonight have fun


I agree we can lynch or shoot ED, because even if he is Town, he will survive till the very end and will cause Town to lose the game in 2v1.
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