SFM45 "Think Twice" | GAME OVER TOWN WINS

[UzayAltay]

Chit , it happens F3 Like Jamez Said .
3v2
We lynched town , town stay alive 1 More Day
We lynched Mafioso , Mafioso and townie We lynched die
2v1

Oh, you’re right. My math was wrong, but I can still see the Mafioso sacrificing themselves to create F3 if the GF is deepwolfing.

Manatee starting this game so similar to SFM 44 as town is unsettling to me, could be looking for town cred.

TFW Evan has posted more then half the players here.

/vote Jalandh

Howdy

This pinged me about Jalandh TBH.

Yeah it didn’t really feel natural to me imo.

Everyone is saying their GF and Mafioso guesses in their First posts .

Really shouldn’t be focusing on particular scum roles atm. Try to find scum teams. Gut says Jalandh/Manatee atm.

Mine : GF Jalandh , Mafioso chit

Explain the read on me.

added isos cus i forgot

Thanks!

It was mainly Because You say be careful with votes immadiately After Jalandh voted .
And I Also want your Mafioso /GF guess .

I gave you my scum team guess in the post I quoted. Focusing on the GF in particular is a bad approach because they could just be found by regular scum hunting. Do you think GF and Mafioso will behave differently? We should want to lynch scummy people instead of focusing on finding 1 role.

I am sleepy as miss that .
I am collecting This for , Actually I Dont know Why I collect that guesses %100 , but I cant see it harm town any way when I can see it may harm scum . And This may road Interesting interactions .

[Jamezbeast]

Hot Take: the mafioso will be trying to associate with villagers to make things look better for GF upon flip.

Explain? Again, if we mislynch town today, we should not fish for mafioso tomorrow. The dead towny should try to find the mafioso with the intent of ignoring him

The mafioso can make things look significantly better for the GF when found, depending on how they play.

I don't think we should be ignoring the mafioso and we should definitely lynch them if we have a scumcheck on them, but I would not read too much into associations: it makes sense for them to distance from the gf as much as possible. Assuming I'm correct in this we have one scum in [Jala/Chit] and one in [Uzay/Manatee] but ofc that puts both my villa reads in one circle .__________.

[Jalandh]

Hot Take: the mafioso will be trying to associate with villagers to make things look better for GF upon flip.

Explain? Again, if we mislynch town today, we should not fish for mafioso tomorrow. The dead towny should try to find the mafioso with the intent of ignoring him

The mafioso can make things look significantly better for the GF when found, depending on how they play.

I don't think we should be ignoring the mafioso and we should definitely lynch them if we have a scumcheck on them, but I would not read too much into associations: it makes sense for them to distance from the gf as much as possible. Assuming I'm correct in this we have one scum in [Jala/Chit] and one in [Uzay/Manatee] but ofc that puts both my villa reads in one circle .__________.

Actually if we find the mafioso and decide to Lynch them, then we hurt town.

What does lynching them provide for town the following day?

We already know for a fact they are scum. All that lynching the mafioso does is make town lose their confirmed town in the voting and talking process as day 3 is always going to be 2 unconfirmed town and gf.

[Jalandh]

Ok someone explain why we would want to Lynch mafioso if the confirmed town finds them tomorrow? I think everyone is overlooking that we do not need them dead.

We only need the gf dead.

After the Lynch tomorrow, whoever we mislynch today if we do dies. Which means we lose our pure town voice.

[ManateeDude]

Jamez-Jalandh is my main scumteam.

[chitownmvp01]

Ok someone explain why we would want to Lynch mafioso if the confirmed town finds them tomorrow? I think everyone is overlooking that we do not need them dead.

We only need the gf dead.

After the Lynch tomorrow, whoever we mislynch today if we do dies. Which means we lose our pure town voice.

Because the Mafioso is also scum and if we ML today, MLing tomorrow in search of GF when confirmed Mafia is alIve results in a town loss.

[chitownmvp01]

Jamez-Jalandh is my main scumteam.

Where did you reach this from?

Hot Take: the mafioso will be trying to associate with villagers to make things look better for GF upon flip.

Explain? Again, if we mislynch town today, we should not fish for mafioso tomorrow. The dead towny should try to find the mafioso with the intent of ignoring him

The mafioso can make things look significantly better for the GF when found, depending on how they play.

I don't think we should be ignoring the mafioso and we should definitely lynch them if we have a scumcheck on them, but I would not read too much into associations: it makes sense for them to distance from the gf as much as possible. Assuming I'm correct in this we have one scum in [Jala/Chit] and one in [Uzay/Manatee] but ofc that puts both my villa reads in one circle .__________.[/quote]

Can you go more into detail about the associations you mentioned?

[chitownmvp01]

Sorry about the broken quotes.

[ManateeDude]

Possible scumteams from my PoV
[Chit/Jamez] Possible, but I still think unlikely from early "chits post isnt wolfy"
[Chit/Jalandh] Unlikely due to early interactions feeling natural, TvS at most
[Chit/Uzay]
[Jamez/Jalandh]
[Jamez/Uzay]
[Uzay/Jalandh]

Jalandh is likely scum over chit imo so say we remove chit from teams we got
[Jamez/Jalandh]
[Jamez/Uzay]
[Uzay/Jalandh]

Now gut says that Jalandh and Uzay not interacting with each other comes from scum, so looking back I'm more confident in that being a team. Jamez early v read on me is wolfy, but his associations don't provide much for comparing.

[Jalandh]

Ok someone explain why we would want to Lynch mafioso if the confirmed town finds them tomorrow? I think everyone is overlooking that we do not need them dead.

We only need the gf dead.

After the Lynch tomorrow, whoever we mislynch today if we do dies. Which means we lose our pure town voice.

Because the Mafioso is also scum and if we ML today, MLing tomorrow in search of GF when confirmed Mafia is alIve results in a town loss.

yes but lynching the mafioso doesnt do anything. It doesnt limit the choices and it means we lost the confirmed town members vote and views.

[Jalandh]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

[UzayAltay]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

[Jalandh]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

no not really

[Jalandh]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

no not really

Is that it though? Completely ignore my point and try to push a point like I would call myself scum like that? XD I had to go back and recheck to even see who was where on the list.

[UzayAltay]

Player - Godfather - Mafioso ( with / If Dont speciy Mafioso/GF)
Jamezbeast - Chitownmvp / Jalandh
chitownmvp - Jalandh/Manatee
UzayAltay - Jalandh-chitownmvp
Jalandh - Manatee/Jamezbeast
Manatee - Jamez/Jalandh

Btw It is The dumbest voting I have Ever had .
Jalandh : 4
Chit,Jamez,Manatee : 2
Me: 0

I feel I am being pocketed . At least 1 scum write Jalandh .
Jamez write Same thing with me , which is Interesting , but probably NAI .
I need to think from that , I think there is A solution here .

[UzayAltay]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

no not really

Is that it though? Completely ignore my point and try to push a point like I would call myself scum like that? XD I had to go back and recheck to even see who was where on the list.

I took your point , I just thought You are GF and Manatee is Mafioso Because Manatee is 5.
Than I realized Non of You had written chitown , but It was after posting .

[Jalandh]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

no not really

Is that it though? Completely ignore my point and try to push a point like I would call myself scum like that? XD I had to go back and recheck to even see who was where on the list.

I took your point , I just thought You are GF and Manatee is Mafioso Because Manatee is 5.
Than I realized Non of You had written chitown , but It was after posting .

Then talk about my point then. Everyone is still saying to lynch the mafioso tomorrow if they find it but noone can explain how that benefits town.

[UzayAltay]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

no not really

Is that it though? Completely ignore my point and try to push a point like I would call myself scum like that? XD I had to go back and recheck to even see who was where on the list.

I took your point , I just thought You are GF and Manatee is Mafioso Because Manatee is 5.
Than I realized Non of You had written chitown , but It was after posting .

Then talk about my point then. Everyone is still saying to lynch the mafioso tomorrow if they find it but noone can explain how that benefits town.

I think We should lynch Mafioso after citizen Said everything he Said . Or We can not lynch Mafioso as You Said , but I Dont think it would make A big difference .

[Jalandh]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

no not really

Is that it though? Completely ignore my point and try to push a point like I would call myself scum like that? XD I had to go back and recheck to even see who was where on the list.

I took your point , I just thought You are GF and Manatee is Mafioso Because Manatee is 5.
Than I realized Non of You had written chitown , but It was after posting .

Then talk about my point then. Everyone is still saying to lynch the mafioso tomorrow if they find it but noone can explain how that benefits town.

I think We should lynch Mafioso after citizen Said everything he Said . Or We can not lynch Mafioso as You Said , but I Dont think it would make A big difference .

Why wouldnt it? This is Reverse King. If the cop finds the mafioso, what point does it make to town to vote them? If they cant find the gf on d2 based off reads, then chances of finding them d3 are unlikely. Especially with only 3 people left in town. Its basically 3 man popcorn at that point.

[Jalandh]

Player - Godfather - Mafioso ( with / If Dont speciy Mafioso/GF)
Jamezbeast - Chitownmvp / Jalandh
chitownmvp - Jalandh/Manatee
UzayAltay - Jalandh-chitownmvp
Jalandh - Manatee/Jamezbeast
Manatee - Jamez/Jalandh

Btw It is The dumbest voting I have Ever had .
Jalandh : 4
Chit,Jamez,Manatee : 2
Me: 0

I feel I am being pocketed . At least 1 scum write Jalandh .
Jamez write Same thing with me , which is Interesting , but probably NAI .
I need to think from that , I think there is A solution here .

so both scum voted for me.

I dont think both scum would ever put in the same results so I never see James/Uzay.

Think Manatee could be bussing his Mafioso partner? Best guess from these results would be Manatee - James

[UzayAltay]

Player - Godfather - Mafioso ( with / If Dont speciy Mafioso/GF)
Jamezbeast - Chitownmvp / Jalandh
chitownmvp - Jalandh/Manatee
UzayAltay - Jalandh-chitownmvp
Jalandh - Manatee/Jamezbeast
Manatee - Jamez/Jalandh

Btw It is The dumbest voting I have Ever had .
Jalandh : 4
Chit,Jamez,Manatee : 2
Me: 0

I feel I am being pocketed . At least 1 scum write Jalandh .
Jamez write Same thing with me , which is Interesting , but probably NAI .
I need to think from that , I think there is A solution here .

Lets write 2's More open . There is at least 1 scum in 2's , and I just want to found him .

Chit : Me - Jamez
Jamez : Manatee - Jalandh
Manatee : Chit - Jalandh

[Jalandh]

Player - Godfather - Mafioso ( with / If Dont speciy Mafioso/GF)
Jamezbeast - Chitownmvp / Jalandh
chitownmvp - Jalandh/Manatee
UzayAltay - Jalandh-chitownmvp
Jalandh - Manatee/Jamezbeast
Manatee - Jamez/Jalandh

Btw It is The dumbest voting I have Ever had .
Jalandh : 4
Chit,Jamez,Manatee : 2
Me: 0

I feel I am being pocketed . At least 1 scum write Jalandh .
Jamez write Same thing with me , which is Interesting , but probably NAI .
I need to think from that , I think there is A solution here .

Lets write 2's More open . There is at least 1 scum in 2's , and I just want to found him .

Chit : Me - Jamez
Jamez : Manatee - Jalandh
Manatee : Chit - Jalandh

What?

[UzayAltay]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

no not really

Is that it though? Completely ignore my point and try to push a point like I would call myself scum like that? XD I had to go back and recheck to even see who was where on the list.

I took your point , I just thought You are GF and Manatee is Mafioso Because Manatee is 5.
Than I realized Non of You had written chitown , but It was after posting .

Then talk about my point then. Everyone is still saying to lynch the mafioso tomorrow if they find it but noone can explain how that benefits town.

I think We should lynch Mafioso after citizen Said everything he Said . Or We can not lynch Mafioso as You Said , but I Dont think it would make A big difference .

Why wouldnt it? This is Reverse King. If the cop finds the mafioso, what point does it make to town to vote them? If they cant find the gf on d2 based off reads, then chances of finding them d3 are unlikely. Especially with only 3 people left in town. Its basically 3 man popcorn at that point.

The problem is I cant see how an IC Will help us .

[Jalandh]

Think about it this way guys.

A, B, C, D, E are the players.

d1, B is myslynched.

n2 B checks E and finds they are the mafioso.

d2. Town can their lynch E OR look at the remaining two for the god father.

IF they look for the godfather, B can reliably lead the town. they are a vote that the other 2 confirmed town can follow.

IF they just lynch the Mafioso, then B also dies and town loses the clear they could follow and listen to. They also now have to struggle to find the godfather and they cant trust anyone else.

Is there A specific reason You choosed B and E as letters .

no not really

Is that it though? Completely ignore my point and try to push a point like I would call myself scum like that? XD I had to go back and recheck to even see who was where on the list.

I took your point , I just thought You are GF and Manatee is Mafioso Because Manatee is 5.
Than I realized Non of You had written chitown , but It was after posting .

Then talk about my point then. Everyone is still saying to lynch the mafioso tomorrow if they find it but noone can explain how that benefits town.

I think We should lynch Mafioso after citizen Said everything he Said . Or We can not lynch Mafioso as You Said , but I Dont think it would make A big difference .

Why wouldnt it? This is Reverse King. If the cop finds the mafioso, what point does it make to town to vote them? If they cant find the gf on d2 based off reads, then chances of finding them d3 are unlikely. Especially with only 3 people left in town. Its basically 3 man popcorn at that point.

The problem is I cant see how an IC Will help us .

IC?

[UzayAltay]

Player - Godfather - Mafioso ( with / If Dont speciy Mafioso/GF)
Jamezbeast - Chitownmvp / Jalandh
chitownmvp - Jalandh/Manatee
UzayAltay - Jalandh-chitownmvp
Jalandh - Manatee/Jamezbeast
Manatee - Jamez/Jalandh

Btw It is The dumbest voting I have Ever had .
Jalandh : 4
Chit,Jamez,Manatee : 2
Me: 0

I feel I am being pocketed . At least 1 scum write Jalandh .
Jamez write Same thing with me , which is Interesting , but probably NAI .
I need to think from that , I think there is A solution here .

Lets write 2's More open . There is at least 1 scum in 2's , and I just want to found him .

Chit : Me - Jamez
Jamez : Manatee - Jalandh
Manatee : Chit - Jalandh

What?

Chit is choosed by me and Jamez , Jamez is choosed by Manatee and Jalandh etc.