[Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Game Over | Town Wins

[Eragon1329]

sad thing is, I pulled off a successful frame

I framed uzay and ultiix checked him

[Eragon1329]

para won this game for you.

if para had lived the TP woulda been in doubt, and none of us been lynched

and also cloud woulda been dead, and you woulda lynched uzay because the red-check.

we woulda stood a ok chance if para didnt hero guard cloud

[Eragon1329]

good job para

*salute*

[TheLukundo]

I swear Parallax7 said somewhere he wanted to do the hero guard!

[Jalandh]

para won this game for you.

if para had lived the TP woulda been in doubt, and none of us been lynched

and also cloud woulda been dead, and you woulda lynched uzay because the red-check.

we woulda stood a ok chance if para didnt hero guard cloud

I disagree. Wabbit would have still been dead, cloud shot them. Who did you all try to kill? Towns biggest issue was finding the scum in the cits.

Even with it being in doubt, we just lynch one of the 3. Probably would have been Para.

Chemist would have continued to heal Ultiix.

This puts you in a bad spot as now Ultiix has a 100% chance to find scum (Chemist inno means your mafia as well) and town just had too many numbers to have you a chance to win

[TheLukundo]

Anyways, I call that a successful first game!

[chitownmvp01]

This was my 4th time hosting NFM (38, 44, and 51) and this was by far the easiest one to host probably because there was a lot of experienced players. Everyone was active (except for 1 prod to xUltiix) and I didn't have to find any replacements during the game. My previous NFMs involved one or more of replacement hell, really strange plays, game integrity issues, etc.

TheLukundo was textbook noob town, it was extremely obvious and any scum read on him was terrible. He improved a little as the game went on. He definitely has potential to be a good player. Need to improve with making reads.

squosher was okay, took a step backward from NFM57 in terms of townieness, but he definitely has potential to be good as well.

0verki claimed too early. Not great accuracy with reads, but it was really good that he was consistently reevaluating people instead of pushing the same agenda from the get-go. This is something that town should definitely be doing. A lot of times scum will post reads once and lack reevaluation as the game goes on, pushing the same agenda the whole time. This doesn't mean that if you're confident about a scum read early that you need to drop it later in the game though. It's an in general thing. Good potential once again.

Parallax's day play wasn't good. Probably always lynched first if sorting the TP claims. A lot of bad reads, but I did not anticipate him going against Cloud's plan of having both TPs on xUltiix, as the Mafia has to kill them off or the game will be locked via POE and guarding Cloud, who pushed you extensively including threatening to shoot you. I did not think you would have the balls to go on Cloud. It was funny that the Mafia thought you were gambiting as a Citizen to bait the Mafia. You have potential as well.

I felt that all the newbies in this game have really good potential to be good FM players. They all need to work on making better reads as many of their reads were cringe-worthy, reasoning-wise, but not surprising for a newbie.

I found it funny that nobody was listening to Uzay, despite that his reads were pretty accurate. People town read Eragon way too easily, and Uzay was the only one who scum read him (or at least was vocal about it) early in the game.

Jamez sacrificing himself for Parallax was ?????, but ended up working in town's favor I guess, lol. I thought he had an off game tbh.

Mafia loss was combined poor play and bad luck. With them all being experienced, I was surprised that they went down this easily. Wabbit reacted poorly to xUltiix's fake red check and Eragon's TP claim basically made it impossible for Mafia to win, as killing off the other TPs to get to xUltiix outs him as scum. Eragon framed Uzay N2, who was actually checked by xUltiix, so it would have made things a little interesting if Eragon didn't concede, but he would have eventually gotten caught by POE anyways.

Although Manatee got lynched Day 1, I thought his performance was better than VFM31 posting-wise. He felt a little more comfortable posting on his own instead of needing extensive coaching in the day chat. His scum game is definitely trending up.

Eragon was town read too easily. Being active =/= town. Wabbit was decent, he just got unlucky.

Fun game to host and thanks for the opportunity, melanora!

[chitownmvp01]

BTW the Mafia Chat link won't work for non-Mafia until melanora moves the chat to the archives.

[Jalandh]

This was my 4th time hosting NFM (38, 44, and 51) and this was by far the easiest one to host probably because there was a lot of experienced players. Everyone was active (except for 1 prod to xUltiix) and I didn't have to find any replacements during the game. My previous NFMs involved one or more of replacement hell, really strange plays, game integrity issues, etc.

TheLukundo was textbook noob town, it was extremely obvious and any scum read on him was terrible. He improved a little as the game went on. He definitely has potential to be a good player. Need to improve with making reads.

squosher was okay, took a step backward from NFM57 in terms of townieness, but he definitely has potential to be good as well.

0verki claimed too early. Not great accuracy with reads, but it was really good that he was consistently reevaluating people instead of pushing the same agenda from the get-go. This is something that town should definitely be doing. A lot of times scum will post reads once and lack reevaluation as the game goes on, pushing the same agenda the whole time. This doesn't mean that if you're confident about a scum read early that you need to drop it later in the game though. It's an in general thing. Good potential once again.

Parallax's day play wasn't good. Probably always lynched first if sorting the TP claims. A lot of bad reads, but I did not anticipate him going against Cloud's plan of having both TPs on xUltiix, as the Mafia has to kill them off or the game will be locked via POE and guarding Cloud, who pushed you extensively including threatening to shoot you. I did not think you would have the balls to go on Cloud. It was funny that the Mafia thought you were gambiting as a Citizen to bait the Mafia. You have potential as well.

I felt that all the newbies in this game have really good potential to be good FM players. They all need to work on making better reads as many of their reads were cringe-worthy, reasoning-wise, but not surprising for a newbie.

I found it funny that nobody was listening to Uzay, despite that his reads were pretty accurate. People town read Eragon way too easily, and Uzay was the only one who scum read him (or at least was vocal about it) early in the game.

Jamez sacrificing himself for Parallax was ?????, but ended up working in town's favor I guess, lol. I thought he had an off game tbh.

Mafia loss was combined poor play and bad luck. With them all being experienced, I was surprised that they went down this easily. Wabbit reacted poorly to xUltiix's fake red check and Eragon's TP claim basically made it impossible for Mafia to win, as killing off the other TPs to get to xUltiix outs him as scum. Eragon framed Uzay N2, who was actually checked by xUltiix, so it would have made things a little interesting if Eragon didn't concede, but he would have eventually gotten caught by POE anyways.

Although Manatee got lynched Day 1, I thought his performance was better than VFM31 posting-wise. He felt a little more comfortable posting on his own instead of needing extensive coaching in the day chat. His scum game is definitely trending up.

Eragon was town read too easily. Being active =/= town. Wabbit was decent, he just got unlucky.

Fun game to host and thanks for the opportunity, melanora!

nothing for me?

And we did not TR Eragon for his activity. We TRd him for the no other RT claim. If Para had claimed when we asked, I would have 100% lynched Eragon for the Marshal claim.

[TheLukundo]

This was my 4th time hosting NFM (38, 44, and 51) and this was by far the easiest one to host probably because there was a lot of experienced players. Everyone was active (except for 1 prod to xUltiix) and I didn't have to find any replacements during the game. My previous NFMs involved one or more of replacement hell, really strange plays, game integrity issues, etc.

TheLukundo was textbook noob town, it was extremely obvious and any scum read on him was terrible. He improved a little as the game went on. He definitely has potential to be a good player. Need to improve with making reads.

squosher was okay, took a step backward from NFM57 in terms of townieness, but he definitely has potential to be good as well.

0verki claimed too early. Not great accuracy with reads, but it was really good that he was consistently reevaluating people instead of pushing the same agenda from the get-go. This is something that town should definitely be doing. A lot of times scum will post reads once and lack reevaluation as the game goes on, pushing the same agenda the whole time. This doesn't mean that if you're confident about a scum read early that you need to drop it later in the game though. It's an in general thing. Good potential once again.

Parallax's day play wasn't good. Probably always lynched first if sorting the TP claims. A lot of bad reads, but I did not anticipate him going against Cloud's plan of having both TPs on xUltiix, as the Mafia has to kill them off or the game will be locked via POE and guarding Cloud, who pushed you extensively including threatening to shoot you. I did not think you would have the balls to go on Cloud. It was funny that the Mafia thought you were gambiting as a Citizen to bait the Mafia. You have potential as well.

I felt that all the newbies in this game have really good potential to be good FM players. They all need to work on making better reads as many of their reads were cringe-worthy, reasoning-wise, but not surprising for a newbie.

I found it funny that nobody was listening to Uzay, despite that his reads were pretty accurate. People town read Eragon way too easily, and Uzay was the only one who scum read him (or at least was vocal about it) early in the game.

Jamez sacrificing himself for Parallax was ?????, but ended up working in town's favor I guess, lol. I thought he had an off game tbh.

Mafia loss was combined poor play and bad luck. With them all being experienced, I was surprised that they went down this easily. Wabbit reacted poorly to xUltiix's fake red check and Eragon's TP claim basically made it impossible for Mafia to win, as killing off the other TPs to get to xUltiix outs him as scum. Eragon framed Uzay N2, who was actually checked by xUltiix, so it would have made things a little interesting if Eragon didn't concede, but he would have eventually gotten caught by POE anyways.

Although Manatee got lynched Day 1, I thought his performance was better than VFM31 posting-wise. He felt a little more comfortable posting on his own instead of needing extensive coaching in the day chat. His scum game is definitely trending up.

Eragon was town read too easily. Being active =/= town. Wabbit was decent, he just got unlucky.

Fun game to host and thanks for the opportunity, melanora!

Cheers about me and yeah we really needed to listen to UzayAltay TBH!! In hindsight I feel like a right dick!

[Eragon1329]

para won this game for you.

if para had lived the TP woulda been in doubt, and none of us been lynched

and also cloud woulda been dead, and you woulda lynched uzay because the red-check.

we woulda stood a ok chance if para didnt hero guard cloud

I disagree. Wabbit would have still been dead, cloud shot them. Who did you all try to kill? Towns biggest issue was finding the scum in the cits.

Even with it being in doubt, we just lynch one of the 3. Probably would have been Para.

Chemist would have continued to heal Ultiix.

This puts you in a bad spot as now Ultiix has a 100% chance to find scum (Chemist inno means your mafia as well) and town just had too many numbers to have you a chance to win

I believe the numbers were 8 v 2

We kill cloud and cloud kills wabbit

7 v 1

You would have mis-lynched uzay
Night kill

5 v 1

Then you woulda likely lynched parallax

3 v 1

Then it would be a thunder dome Chemist vs me MyLo

[Jalandh]

para won this game for you.

if para had lived the TP woulda been in doubt, and none of us been lynched

and also cloud woulda been dead, and you woulda lynched uzay because the red-check.

we woulda stood a ok chance if para didnt hero guard cloud

I disagree. Wabbit would have still been dead, cloud shot them. Who did you all try to kill? Towns biggest issue was finding the scum in the cits.

Even with it being in doubt, we just lynch one of the 3. Probably would have been Para.

Chemist would have continued to heal Ultiix.

This puts you in a bad spot as now Ultiix has a 100% chance to find scum (Chemist inno means your mafia as well) and town just had too many numbers to have you a chance to win

I believe the numbers were 8 v 2

We kill cloud and cloud kills wabbit

7 v 1

You would have mis-lynched uzay
Night kill

5 v 1

Then you woulda likely lynched parallax

3 v 1

Then it would be a thunder dome Chemist vs me MyLo

Youre forgetting Ultiix

[Eragon1329]

Ye. But he checked uzay

I still woulda lost for almost certainty, but it would’ve been a lot longer/stressful of a game for everyone

[Jalandh]

para won this game for you.

if para had lived the TP woulda been in doubt, and none of us been lynched

and also cloud woulda been dead, and you woulda lynched uzay because the red-check.

we woulda stood a ok chance if para didnt hero guard cloud

I disagree. Wabbit would have still been dead, cloud shot them. Who did you all try to kill? Towns biggest issue was finding the scum in the cits.

Even with it being in doubt, we just lynch one of the 3. Probably would have been Para.

Chemist would have continued to heal Ultiix.

This puts you in a bad spot as now Ultiix has a 100% chance to find scum (Chemist inno means your mafia as well) and town just had too many numbers to have you a chance to win

I believe the numbers were 8 v 2

We kill cloud and cloud kills wabbit
Agreed

7 v 1

You would have mis-lynched uzay
Night kill
Untrue. Why would we lynch Uzay when theres a confirmed mafia within Eragon/Chemist/Para? We would have Mislynched Parallax.

5 v 1

Then you woulda likely lynched parallax
Parallax already dead, we have a thunder dome between you and Chemist, with a Cop report on one of you.

3 v 1

Then it would be a thunder dome Chemist vs me MyLo
game would have already been over

[Jalandh]

Again Eragon, why would we ever Lynch Uzay?

We had confirmed scum within Para/Chemist/Yourself. All you did was confirm a Framer

[Eragon1329]

Uzay was red-checked by ultiix

[Eragon1329]

I woulda possible been able to retract my claim as gambit(and get lynched as soon as uzay was) or just hope

[Jalandh]

Uzay was red-checked by ultiix

So? that could be easily done with a framer, which it was. However, the Rolelist proves Uzay was innocent as there was a confirmed scum within the PRs.

p-edit: Hell nah, if you had redacted after trying to lynch a PR yesterday, I would have been over your ass

[Eragon1329]

I’m not saying I woulda won, I’m saying parallax made this game way too easy for you

We likely woulda gone into MyLo if parallax wasn’t sacrificed

[Eragon1329]

I woulda lost no doubt, but it would’ve been a better game overall

[Jalandh]

I woulda lost no doubt, but it would’ve been a better game overall

Thats fair. With Para still living, you woulda got one more ML in if nothing else cause he was gonna be hanging today

[xUltiix]

gg

[ManateeDude]

Yay less shitty dayplay

[xUltiix]

my d1 push was amazing tbh

[0verki11]

gg that ending alot quicker than I expected, Parallax said he wanted to pull of a hero save, and what happened. Fun playing with you all.