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[Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Game Over | Town Wins

Postby chitownmvp01 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:58 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


Please read the rules below fully.

General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at ObiWan's Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.


Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative: (Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout)
Town Protective: (Doctor/Bodyguard/Marshal)
Town Killing: (Vigilante/Veteran)
Town Support: (Medium/Escort)
Town Citizen: (Citizen)

Mafia Head: (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical: (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support: (Consigliere/Consort/Agent)
Mafia Deception: (Framer/Janitor/Disguiser/Prankster)

There will never be more than one Mafioso.
There are two random towns, and only one can be citizen.
The random town can also not be a Town Killing role (Vigilante/Veteran).


Invest Results
Spoiler: Citizen/Godfather
Sheriff/Marshal/Mafioso/Disguiser
Escort/Doctor/Consort/Prankster
Lookout/Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer/Agent
Investigator/Veteran/Medium/Consigliere/Janitor
Framer


Sheriff Results

Spoiler: Town and Godfather: Your target is not suspicious!
All other Mafia: Your target is a member of the Mafia!
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Favorite Roles: Mayor, Jailor, Investigator, Lookout, Sheriff, GF, Consigliere
Least Favorite Roles: Transporter, Jester, Survivor, Disguiser, Mafioso (original, not promoted)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Role Cards Will Be Going Out Soon

Postby chitownmvp01 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:59 pm

Role List

Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Godfather
Mafia Tactical/Support
Random Mafia



Alive

2) squosher
4) TheLukundo
8) Cloudstepper
9) xUltiix
10) UzayAltay
12) Jalandh
13) Chemist1422

Dead

7) ManateeDude - Godfather - Lynched Day 1
6) 0verki11 - Escort - Killed by a member of the Mafia Night 1
11) Jamezbeast - Citizen - Lynched Day 2
3) Parallax7 - Bodyguard - Died guarding someone Night 2
5) TheWabbit - Agent - Killed by a Bodyguard and shot by a Vigilante Night 2
1) Eragon1329 - Framer - Conceded Day 3


Timeline of Events:

Start of Day 1
End of Day 1/Start of Night 1
Start of Day 2
End of Day 2/Start of Night 2
Start of Day 3
End of Game
Mod Rant

ISOs

chitownmvp01 [Host]
melanora [Helicopter Parent]
Eragon1329
squosher
Parallax7
TheLukundo
TheWabbit
0verki11
ManateeDude
Cloudstepper
xUltiix
UzayAltay
Jamezbeast
Jalandh
Chemist1422
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Favorite Roles: Mayor, Jailor, Investigator, Lookout, Sheriff, GF, Consigliere
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Role Cards Will Be Going Out Soon

Postby chitownmvp01 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:59 pm

Introduction and Mechanics


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia) duking it out. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-forward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team. While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • Day is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role being shown to the public.

    **Plurality is enabled in this game. This means that majority vote is not required to lynch. Under plurality, the player with the most votes is lynched at the end of the 120 hour day. If multiple players are tied for the most votes, RNG will decide who gets lynched. Keep in mind, that if majority is reached on a player, the day will end early with that player getting lynched.**

  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it. **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

**There are no whispers present in this game.
**There are no last wills or death notes in this game.
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up.


The game will only end once one of the major factions fulfills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me (chitownmvp01) the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
For sending me Night actions or whatever, include "NFM58" in the subject line, it would also help if you included "Night Action" for your actions

Mafia Killing Revamp is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology

General terms:
Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it. For instance, saying "there are alot of people that are more important than me" may imply that you are softclaiming citizen. Make sure you have a plan in mind before attempting this.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors. If player X posts things that look like their a mafia member, you have a scumread on them!
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. For instance, if you think player Y wouldn't kill Z because Z townreads Y, but then realize that may well be a reason that Y would kill Z: to make people think Y isn't a mafia member, you've stumbled on WIFOM. Tread lightly.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose. Extremely subjective term not to be taken lightly.
Plurality: Lynching without majority. The player with the most votes gets lynched at the end of the day. RNG determines who gets lynched in the event of a tie. Reaching majority causes the day to end early with that player getting lynched.


Slightly more uncommon terms:
FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post what you think of other players regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.
Townies have no reason to lie and should never do it, in NFM. Spotting a lie can be almost as sure as spotting a mafia itself.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

**Mafia can use their chat during the day in this game! Use it wisely!**

FM Academy has further guidance to playing scum.

Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't claim Mafia.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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If you ever feel anxious playing FM, like I do every single time I play, look at yourself and realize things aren't so bad. As long as you are having fun it's always worth it. Don't be scared to post.

For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Role Cards Going Out Now

Postby chitownmvp01 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:20 am

Role cards are going out now.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Confirm By 1:45 AM CDT on July 9th

Postby chitownmvp01 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:47 am

All role cards have been sent. Once everyone confirms, Day 1 will begin. You have until 1:45 AM CDT (UTC-5) on Monday July 9th to confirm your spot by replying to your role card.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Confirm By 1:45 AM CDT on July 9th

Postby chitownmvp01 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:23 am

Eragon1329 replaces TotalTrash.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Confirm By 1:45 AM CDT on July 10t

Postby chitownmvp01 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:45 pm

Since 7 players haven't confirmed or opened their role card an hour before the deadline and due to the fact that they're all newbies and that the queue is empty, they will be given 24 additional hours to confirm their spots. They now have until 1:45 AM CDT (UTC-5) on Tuesday July 10th.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Confirm By 2:05 AM CDT on July 11t

Postby chitownmvp01 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:07 am

The following are changes to the playerlist:

TheLukundo replaces taras11224
Monero replaces tofugu0903
ManateeDude replaces Selynee
Cloudstepper replaces Awsomistic1
xUltiix replaces Jesuisjake

All have until 2:05 AM CDT (UTC-5) on Wednesday July 11th to confirm their spots.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Confirm By 2:05 AM CDT on July 11t

Postby chitownmvp01 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:54 am

Monero will be replaced by TBD. Everyone else has confirmed.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 Starting Soon!

Postby chitownmvp01 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:51 pm

TheWabbit is replacing Monero and he has confirmed his spot. Everyone has confirmed their spots. Day 1 will start soon. If the thread is unlocked, do not post until I announce that the day has started.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby chitownmvp01 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:16 pm

The town of Salem has woken up to a threat of yet another Mafia on a hot, sunny morning.

One of the members of the town grumbled, "Here we go again".

Day 1 Begins!

It will end at 2:15 PM CDT (UTC-5) on Sunday July 15th or when majority vote is reached!


7 votes are needed for majority!

Reminders:

-This isn't TOS.
-You may lynch today.
-Plurality is enabled. See the Introduction and Mechanics post if you do not know what plurality is.
-Mafia can use their chat during both the day and night.
-Start your post with @chitownmvp01 or @chit or @chi or @host in bold if you have a question about the game. Send me a PM if you have a question about your role.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:18 pm

first
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Eragon1329 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:18 pm

/vote ManateeDude

this is a whale of a wagon
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby chitownmvp01 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:21 pm

Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not Voting: squosher, Parallax7, TheLukundo, TheWabbit, 0verki11, ManateeDude, cloudstepper, xUltiix, UzayAltay, Jamezbeast, Jalandh, Chemist1422
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Cloudstepper » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:27 pm

Greetings travellers.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Jalandh » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:29 pm

"Here we go again" very fitting.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Cloudstepper » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:31 pm

To the new lads: never claim your role or say anything about it unless you are close to being lynched. This gives extra information to the mafia which allows them to get optimal nightkills.

Don't be afraid to say what posts bother you and what posts you like: that's what FM is all about. Gutreads etc are acceptable. This is different to ToS, I hope you can adapt and have a good time.

Good luck everyone and have fun!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Cloudstepper » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:32 pm

/vote ManateeDude

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby ManateeDude » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:37 pm

Crap I rolled scum time to bus.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Cloudstepper » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:38 pm

ManateeDude wrote:Crap I rolled scum time to bus.
/vote Eragon

I believe you.

Activity is important for the record. When the thread is slow, it makes it hard to get any kind of reads.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Parallax7 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:41 pm

I wonder if 24 hours will even pass before we have full blown reads?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby Cloudstepper » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:44 pm

If you have any sort of questions, be sure to ask. If I can't help then surely someone can.

Parallax7 wrote:I wonder if 24 hours will even pass before we have full blown reads?

It's not impossible. It's not hard to townread or scumread someone for the smallest reasons, it's just somewhat unreasonable to stick to them all game.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby ManateeDude » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:45 pm

Parallax7 wrote:I wonder if 24 hours will even pass before we have full blown reads?


I expect people to have full blown reads by 24h.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby chitownmvp01 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:46 pm

Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
  # Votes Until Majority


Not Voting: squosher, Parallax7, TheLukundo, TheWabbit, 0verki11, xUltiix, UzayAltay, Jamezbeast, Jalandh, Chemist1422
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM58 | Day 1 | "Here we go again."

Postby TheLukundo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:47 pm

Cheers Cloud for the hints also /vote ManateeDude
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