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[Newcomer FM] NFM54 | Xalerion the GOAT

Postby melanora » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:58 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


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Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative: (Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout)
Town Protective: (Doctor/Bodyguard/Marshal)
Town Killing: (Vigilante/Veteran)
Town Support: (Medium/Escort)
Town Citizen: (Citizen)

Mafia Head: (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical: (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support: (Consigliere/Consort/Agent)
Mafia Deception: (Framer/Janitor/Disguiser/Prankster)

There will never be more than one Mafioso.
There are two random towns, and only one can be citizen.
The random town can also not be a Town Killing role (Vigilante/Veteran).


Invest Results
Spoiler: Citizen/Godfather
Sheriff/Marshal/Mafioso/Disguiser
Escort/Doctor/Consort/Prankster
Lookout/Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer/Agent
Investigator/Veteran/Medium/Consigliere/Janitor
Framer
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby melanora » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:59 pm

Rolelist
Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Godfather
Mafia Tactical/Support
Random Mafia



Player List
4. Xalerion0
5. fwogcarf
11. Jamezbeast | AlexanderLiner


Graveyard
TrueGent
cupcakeaj2 - Lynched D1 - Citizen
DesertStorm11 - Killed N1 by Bodyguard - Godfather
Fenraiser / SeasonToAttack - Killed N1 - Bodyguard
MafiaMenace - Killed N2 by Vigilante - Citizen
Crimson97 - Killed N2 by Mafia - Doctor
ZoruaLuhansk - Lynched D3 - Sheriff
UzayAltay - Killed N3 by Mafia - Escort
Varanus - Lynched D4 - Disguiser
ChubbyMooshroom9 - Killed N4 by Mafia - Vigilante
gabby100 - Lynched D5 - Citizen


Timeline of Events:
Day 1 Ends
Day 2 Ends
Day 3 Ends
Day 4 Ends
Day 5 Ends
End of Game

ISOs
MUMANORA
UzayAltay | OregonSquish
Varanus | Flake
Crimson97
Xalerion0
fwogcarf
cupcakeaj2
MafiaMenace | polypies73
ZoruaLuhansk
gabby100
DesertStorm11
Jamezbeast | AlexanderLiner
ChubbyMooshroom9 | Exacerbated
Fenraiser | SeasonToAttack
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby melanora » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:01 pm

Introduction and Mechanics


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia) duking it out. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-forward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team. While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • Day is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role being shown to the public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it. **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

**There are no whispers present in this game.
**There are no last wills or death notes in this game.
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up.


The game will only end once one of the major factions fulfills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me (Melanora) the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
For sending me Night actions or whatever, include "NFM54" in the subject line, it would also help if you included "Night Action" for your actions

Mafia Killing Revamp is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology

General terms:
Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it. For instance, saying "there are alot of people that are more important than me" may imply that you are softclaiming citizen. Make sure you have a plan in mind before attempting this.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors. If player X posts things that look like their a mafia member, you have a scumread on them!
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. For instance, if you think player Y wouldn't kill Z because Z townreads Y, but then realize that may well be a reason that Y would kill Z: to make people think Y isn't a mafia member, you've stumbled on WIFOM. Tread lightly.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose. Extremely subjective term not to be taken lightly.


Slightly more uncommon terms:
FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post what you think of other players regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.
Townies have no reason to lie and should never do it, in NFM. Spotting a lie can be almost as sure as spotting a mafia itself.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

FM Academy has further guidance to playing scum.

Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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If you ever feel anxious playing FM, like I do every single time I play, look at yourself and realize things aren't so bad. As long as you are having fun it's always worth it. Don't be scared to post.

For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby melanora » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:30 am

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:36 am

First
Imagine a FM game that
  • was a bastard SFM but it got ran on the standard queue because the host lied to the balance team
  • 1/3 of the people (including the host) roleplaying while the other 2/3 replaced out
  • had more than 20 mod-errors, including the host flipping the wrong role during death and allowing oog communication
  • extreme amount of angleshoots from the players based on those things
  • had so much flavor the mod-team had to get involved
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:37 am

we meet again desertstorm
Imagine a FM game that
  • was a bastard SFM but it got ran on the standard queue because the host lied to the balance team
  • 1/3 of the people (including the host) roleplaying while the other 2/3 replaced out
  • had more than 20 mod-errors, including the host flipping the wrong role during death and allowing oog communication
  • extreme amount of angleshoots from the players based on those things
  • had so much flavor the mod-team had to get involved
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby gabby100 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:40 am

hey guys lets make this a good one
most of you ive never played with before either lets have fun
I remember doing the time-warp
Drinking those moments when
The Blackness would hit me
And the void would be calling...
Let's do the time-warp again!


since i keep being forgotten here's my FM records:
town aka getting citizen almost everytime:
TFM61 TFM62 NFM53 TFM65 NFM54 TFM66 15B VFM32 15F SFM46 16D ep XVII
SFM52
evan forcing me do the VC...

mafia:
SFM40

neutral:
GFM2.43 SFM48


before the rerolls happened:
NFM55
ep XVI

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby Flake » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:46 am

have fun guys, first ever fm game here
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:48 am

today is 5/03/17.
50317÷13 = 3870 R7
3870÷13 = 270 R9
270÷13 = 20 R10
7, 9, and 10 are mafia.

/vig polypies
Imagine a FM game that
  • was a bastard SFM but it got ran on the standard queue because the host lied to the balance team
  • 1/3 of the people (including the host) roleplaying while the other 2/3 replaced out
  • had more than 20 mod-errors, including the host flipping the wrong role during death and allowing oog communication
  • extreme amount of angleshoots from the players based on those things
  • had so much flavor the mod-team had to get involved
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby gabby100 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:35 pm

...where is everyone else?
I remember doing the time-warp
Drinking those moments when
The Blackness would hit me
And the void would be calling...
Let's do the time-warp again!


since i keep being forgotten here's my FM records:
town aka getting citizen almost everytime:
TFM61 TFM62 NFM53 TFM65 NFM54 TFM66 15B VFM32 15F SFM46 16D ep XVII
SFM52
evan forcing me do the VC...

mafia:
SFM40

neutral:
GFM2.43 SFM48


before the rerolls happened:
NFM55
ep XVI

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby gabby100 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:38 pm

also zorua timezones its not the 5th alone but also the 4th and 6th in other countries
I remember doing the time-warp
Drinking those moments when
The Blackness would hit me
And the void would be calling...
Let's do the time-warp again!


since i keep being forgotten here's my FM records:
town aka getting citizen almost everytime:
TFM61 TFM62 NFM53 TFM65 NFM54 TFM66 15B VFM32 15F SFM46 16D ep XVII
SFM52
evan forcing me do the VC...

mafia:
SFM40

neutral:
GFM2.43 SFM48


before the rerolls happened:
NFM55
ep XVI

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby Crimson97 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:17 pm

Hey there, this is my second game. NFM52 was a lot of fun, here's hoping for another good game.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby Exacerbated » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:31 pm

Sup nerds

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/vote Xalerion0

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby DesertStorm11 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:44 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:we meet again desertstorm

Hiya Zorua!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby DesertStorm11 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:45 pm

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:today is 5/03/17.
50317÷13 = 3870 R7
3870÷13 = 270 R9
270÷13 = 20 R10
7, 9, and 10 are mafia.

/vig polypies

butbutbut

you’re not in there :0
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby DesertStorm11 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:48 pm

HEY OREGON SQUISH
WEST COAST BEST COAST YEET

But you betrayed me by leaving
So you must be scum
/vote Squishysquish
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby gabby100 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:54 pm

Crimson97 wrote:Hey there, this is my second game. NFM52 was a lot of fun, here's hoping for another good game.

every time i see you sig i burst out laughing, somehow the more i look at it the funnier it gets
I remember doing the time-warp
Drinking those moments when
The Blackness would hit me
And the void would be calling...
Let's do the time-warp again!


since i keep being forgotten here's my FM records:
town aka getting citizen almost everytime:
TFM61 TFM62 NFM53 TFM65 NFM54 TFM66 15B VFM32 15F SFM46 16D ep XVII
SFM52
evan forcing me do the VC...

mafia:
SFM40

neutral:
GFM2.43 SFM48


before the rerolls happened:
NFM55
ep XVI

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby Crimson97 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:59 pm

gabby100 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:Hey there, this is my second game. NFM52 was a lot of fun, here's hoping for another good game.

every time i see you sig i burst out laughing, somehow the more i look at it the funnier it gets

The prosecutor sway is irresistible.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:01 pm

DesertStorm11 wrote:
ZoruaLuhansk wrote:we meet again desertstorm

Hiya Zorua!

This time you have an avatar :O
Imagine a FM game that
  • was a bastard SFM but it got ran on the standard queue because the host lied to the balance team
  • 1/3 of the people (including the host) roleplaying while the other 2/3 replaced out
  • had more than 20 mod-errors, including the host flipping the wrong role during death and allowing oog communication
  • extreme amount of angleshoots from the players based on those things
  • had so much flavor the mod-team had to get involved
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby Exacerbated » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:37 pm

So my n0 check came back...

/vote polypies73

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby gabby100 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:53 pm

through RNG i shall vote whoever it lands on

/votes desertstorm
I remember doing the time-warp
Drinking those moments when
The Blackness would hit me
And the void would be calling...
Let's do the time-warp again!


since i keep being forgotten here's my FM records:
town aka getting citizen almost everytime:
TFM61 TFM62 NFM53 TFM65 NFM54 TFM66 15B VFM32 15F SFM46 16D ep XVII
SFM52
evan forcing me do the VC...

mafia:
SFM40

neutral:
GFM2.43 SFM48


before the rerolls happened:
NFM55
ep XVI

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby fwogcarf » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:01 pm

Oh goodie, my first FM game in day one
Are we VFRing already?
Hazbin Hotel was so good I put a pfp of it on my alt account
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby Xalerion0 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:06 pm

Hey all,

It's my first time playing FM ever, so I hope it's a good game and I do well. Feel free to give me any tips. I noticed that polypies73 and squishysquish have already received a vote even though it's day one. I know typically in the flash version it says that that random voting favors evil roles, but FM it favors town, right? Sorry, it was a lot to read and I don't know if I've got it all in my head right. Otherwise, I wouldn't know why there would be random votes day one unless it was friendly/joking, like desertstorm voting squishsquish. I did notice Exacerbated mentioned an n0 result (03/05/18, 3:37 pm). Has there been a night yet? I thought the game just started, so it seems kind of odd to refer to results that don't exist, unless I'm mistaken, especially since there isn't a jester on the role list. If that's just supposed to be a joke too, please let me know. I noticed Exacerbated also randomly voted me approximately 2 hours before changing his vote to polypies73, so he just seems suspiscious to me since hes voting randomly and I don't know him, unless he just voted me because of my name and polypies73 because ZoruaLubansk said /vig polypies, which I don't know if that's a real command because it was bolded, but it is also during the day and in the public chat. Anyways, color me confused. Haha. Hopefully I'll catch on relatively quick. By the way, Exacerbated, my name comes from a book that I really enjoyed when I was younger, but the book was limited in publishing and the author never got big. An echo of the past long forgotten by all else. By the way ZoruaLubansk, why did you divide by 13?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby gabby100 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:14 pm

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Xalerion0 wrote:Hey all,

It's my first time playing FM ever, so I hope it's a good game and I do well. Feel free to give me any tips. I noticed that polypies73 and squishysquish have already received a vote even though it's day one. I know typically in the flash version it says that that random voting favors evil roles, but FM it favors town, right? Sorry, it was a lot to read and I don't know if I've got it all in my head right. Otherwise, I wouldn't know why there would be random votes day one unless it was friendly/joking, like desertstorm voting squishsquish. I did notice Exacerbated mentioned an n0 result (03/05/18, 3:37 pm). Has there been a night yet? I thought the game just started, so it seems kind of odd to refer to results that don't exist, unless I'm mistaken, especially since there isn't a jester on the role list. If that's just supposed to be a joke too, please let me know. I noticed Exacerbated also randomly voted me approximately 2 hours before changing his vote to polypies73, so he just seems suspiscious to me since hes voting randomly and I don't know him, unless he just voted me because of my name and polypies73 because ZoruaLubansk said /vig polypies, which I don't know if that's a real command because it was bolded, but it is also during the day and in the public chat. Anyways, color me confused. Haha. Hopefully I'll catch on relatively quick. By the way, Exacerbated, my name comes from a book that I really enjoyed when I was younger, but the book was limited in publishing and the author never got big. An echo of the past long forgotten by all else. By the way ZoruaLubansk, why did you divide by 13?

woah what a wall of text.. i can tell you are new mate, so typically what happens is that on D1 is a meme phrase where we joke around a bit and have some fun before getting serious serious. you'll see people randomly voting because it is meme phrase right now. all of this is usually a joke but sometimes later on in the games our D1 posts can be used against us or as prove of something so why not relax randomly vote someone or just talk to someone? most of us wont bite :D
I remember doing the time-warp
Drinking those moments when
The Blackness would hit me
And the void would be calling...
Let's do the time-warp again!


since i keep being forgotten here's my FM records:
town aka getting citizen almost everytime:
TFM61 TFM62 NFM53 TFM65 NFM54 TFM66 15B VFM32 15F SFM46 16D ep XVII
SFM52
evan forcing me do the VC...

mafia:
SFM40

neutral:
GFM2.43 SFM48


before the rerolls happened:
NFM55
ep XVI

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM54

Postby DesertStorm11 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:16 pm

gabby100 wrote:through RNG i shall vote whoever it lands on

/votes desertstorm

I thought we had something gabby ;-;

But obv I am scum

/vote self
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