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[Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Game Over (Wait what?)

Postby Vader4587 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:35 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


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General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at ObiWan's Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.


Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative: (Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout)
Town Protective: (Doctor/Bodyguard/Marshal)
Town Killing: (Vigilante/Veteran)
Town Support: (Medium/Escort)
Town Citizen: (Citizen)

Mafia Head: (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical: (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support: (Consigliere/Consort/Agent)
Mafia Deception: (Framer/Janitor/Disguiser/Prankster)

There will never be more than one Mafioso.
There are two random towns, and only one can be citizen.
The random town can also not be a Town Killing role (Vigilante/Veteran).


Invest Results
Spoiler: Citizen/Godfather
Sheriff/Marshal/Mafioso/Disguiser
Escort/Doctor/Consort/Prankster
Lookout/Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer/Agent
Investigator/Veteran/Medium/Consigliere/Janitor
Framer
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby Vader4587 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:41 pm

Rolelist
Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Godfather
Mafia Tactical/Support
Random Mafia



Playerlist
  1. Exacerbated
  2. JoltikIsDubby UnnoticedKoishi kosmo16
  3. MafiaMenace
  4. ClaudiaM25
  5. Blackwolfe99
  6. cupcakeaj2
  7. TheNightmareFox
  8. basedblue3 NicePosture142857



Graveyard
My hopes and dreams
khakha - Day 1 - Consigliere
pinkkittyprincess - Night 1 - Marshal
non271103 - Day 2 - Blackmailer
gabby100 - Night 2 - Citizen
Jamezbeast - Day 3 - Godfather


Timeline of Events:
Day 1 Start
Day 1 Ends;Night 1 Begins
Night 1 Ends;Day 2 Begins
Day 2 Ends;Night 2 Begins
Night 2 Ends;Day 3 Begins
Game Over


ISOs
Vader4587 [Host]
Lexiam [Host]
Melanora [FM Mod]

non271103
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JoltikIsDubby UnnoticedKoishi kosmo16
MafiaMenace
Jamezbeast
ClaudiaM25
Blackwolfe99
pinkkittyprincess
cupcakeaj2
gabby100
khakha1036
TheNightmareFox
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby Vader4587 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:45 pm

Introduction and Mechanics


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia) duking it out. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-forward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team. While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • Day is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role being shown to the public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it. **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

**There are no whispers present in this game.
**There are no last wills or death notes in this game.
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up.


The game will only end once one of the major factions fulfills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me (Vaderalt) the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
For sending me Night actions or whatever, include "NFM52" in the subject line, it would also help if you included "Night Action" for your actions

Mafia Killing Revamp is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology

General terms:
Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it. For instance, saying "there are alot of people that are more important than me" may imply that you are softclaiming citizen. Make sure you have a plan in mind before attempting this.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors. If player X posts things that look like their a mafia member, you have a scumread on them!
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. For instance, if you think player Y wouldn't kill Z because Z townreads Y, but then realize that may well be a reason that Y would kill Z: to make people think Y isn't a mafia member, you've stumbled on WIFOM. Tread lightly.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose. Extremely subjective term not to be taken lightly.


Slightly more uncommon terms:
FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post what you think of other players regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.
Townies have no reason to lie and should never do it, in NFM. Spotting a lie can be almost as sure as spotting a mafia itself.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

FM Academy has further guidance to playing scum.

Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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If you ever feel anxious playing FM, like I do every single time I play, look at yourself and realize things aren't so bad. As long as you are having fun it's always worth it. Don't be scared to post.

For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby Vader4587 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:47 pm

I will be sending rolecards out soon. Once you receive the PM, please reply to it to confirm your spot. Once all players confirm their spot then the game will start. You will have 24 hours from when the PM is sent to respond or you will be replaced.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby Vader4587 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:30 pm

All the rolecards has been sent out. You now have 24 hours to reply to it
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby Vader4587 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:28 pm

I will give those who have not replied 8 more hours to respond since I have not told them to confirm their spots in the PMs. Sorry about the wait

Scratch that since they have not even read the PM. They will be replaced for 3 new people.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby Lexiam » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:17 am

Who says I can't Post with my main account? Hello I am Lexiam/Vader4587 your host for this game. Please behave and have fun!

With that in mind, the game will start in 13 minutes. Please be patient
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby Lexiam » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:36 am

Ok the game will officially begin and I will send a PM to everyone saying so with a link to this thread just in case. Lynching is enabled on Day 1 which means you choose who you want to be lynched. Unlike Town of Salem, there is no trial phase and the person will immediately get lynched once a majority is reached.
Since there is 13 alive, 7 is needed to lynch a person.

Day 1 will end automatically on
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:39 am

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Setting Up

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:41 am

5th game, please be gentle ;3
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby ClaudiaM25 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:43 am

Hey there!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby Jamezbeast » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:44 am

This is my first game :L Let's go, I guess.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:45 am

ClaudiaM25 wrote:Hey there!

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:48 am

Jamezbeast wrote:This is my first game :L Let's go, I guess.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby TheNightmareFox » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:49 am

Aaaaaaaaaand
It started while I was asleep
Makes sense
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby TheNightmareFox » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:52 am

Hoping my general ToS experience and my experience with the TG episodes help out in this as this is my first FM
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:54 am

TheNightmareFox wrote:Hoping my general ToS experience and my experience with the TG episodes help out in this as this is my first FM

It will to a certain level, but FM is quite different from ToS and TG
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:06 am

/vote MafiaMenace

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby TheNightmareFox » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:07 am

non271103 wrote:
TheNightmareFox wrote:Hoping my general ToS experience and my experience with the TG episodes help out in this as this is my first FM

It will to a certain level, but FM is quite different from ToS and TG

Well the basics are the same
It's basically mafia vs town
As mafia try not to be scummy
As town try to find mafia
Figure out who's sus and try to lynch scum
It all mainly relies on you being able to catch scumslip from scum and scum able to hide with the rest of the town and defeat town
There's not much different on how you would play It either
So experience should help out a lot
Especially in trying to detect scum
At least Thats what would make sense
And don't misinterpret this is me saying they are basically the same
I understand there are huge differences
Like first off its just mafia
Second off It has some different roles and is not using some and stuff
But the basic core mechanics are the most important and as those are the similar ones
Experience should be very helpful
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby ClaudiaM25 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:11 am

non271103 wrote:/vote MafiaMenace

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He didn't even came to have his first post :D
Well, that's a nice welcome u give him :)))
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:16 am

TheNightmareFox wrote:
non271103 wrote:
TheNightmareFox wrote:Hoping my general ToS experience and my experience with the TG episodes help out in this as this is my first FM

It will to a certain level, but FM is quite different from ToS and TG

Well the basics are the same
It's basically mafia vs town
As mafia try not to be scummy
As town try to find mafia
Figure out who's sus and try to lynch scum
It all mainly relies on you being able to catch scumslip from scum and scum able to hide with the rest of the town and defeat town
There's not much different on how you would play It either
So experience should help out a lot
Especially in trying to detect scum
At least Thats what would make sense
And don't misinterpret this is me saying they are basically the same
I understand there are huge differences
Like first off its just mafia
Second off It has some different roles and is not using some and stuff
But the basic core mechanics are the most important and as those are the similar ones
Experience should be very helpful

Yeah, roles are quite different.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:17 am

ClaudiaM25 wrote:
non271103 wrote:/vote MafiaMenace

We meet again.


He didn't even came to have his first post :D
Well, that's a nice welcome u give him :)))

It's my 4th game with him xD
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby Vader4587 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:20 am

First vote of the game is:

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby ClaudiaM25 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:27 am

non271103 wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:
non271103 wrote:/vote MafiaMenace

We meet again.


He didn't even came to have his first post :D
Well, that's a nice welcome u give him :)))

It's my 4th game with him xD


Not really relevant now since he didn't even make his first post? U don't know what his rolecard is - town or mafia...
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM53 | Day 1 (With a MOD?!)

Postby non271103 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:44 am

ClaudiaM25 wrote:
non271103 wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:
non271103 wrote:/vote MafiaMenace

We meet again.


He didn't even came to have his first post :D
Well, that's a nice welcome u give him :)))

It's my 4th game with him xD


Not really relevant now since he didn't even make his first post? U don't know what his rolecard is - town or mafia...

You know this is random voting stage right?
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