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[Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Game Over [Mafia Wins]

Postby Veeena » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:24 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


Please read the rules below fully.

General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at ObiWan's Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.


Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative: (Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout)
Town Protective: (Doctor/Bodyguard/Marshal)
Town Killing: (Vigilante/Veteran)
Town Support: (Medium/Escort)
Town Citizen: (Citizen)

Mafia Head: (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical: (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support: (Consigliere/Consort/Agent)
Mafia Deception: (Framer/Janitor/Disguiser/Prankster)

There will never be more than one Mafioso.
There are two random towns, and only one can be citizen.
The random town can also not be a Town Killing role (Vigilante/Veteran).


Invest Results
Spoiler: Citizen/Godfather
Sheriff/Marshal/Mafioso/Disguiser
Escort/Doctor/Consort/Prankster
Lookout/Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer/Agent
Investigator/Veteran/Medium/Consigliere/Janitor
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | SETUP

Postby Veeena » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:25 pm

Rolelist
Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Godfather
Mafia Tactical/Support
Random Mafia



Playerlist
6. TheLoneRouge UzayAltay (Citizen)[
12. loltroll69 TrueGuardian32 NopingOut Exacerbated (Consigliere)



Graveyard
ERROR/NULLED
4. non271103 - Killed by the Mafia Night 1. (Doctor)
2. ninjadog101 Gobln - Lynched Day 2. (Janitor)
5. Erired1110 MichaelgRook - Killed by the Mafia Night 2. (Doctor)
11. HamilTrashSince1757 midde2200 JoltikIsDubby - Lynched Day Three (Citizen)
8. BasicFourLife - Killed by the Mafia Night 3. (Lookout)
3. EvanManManMan - Killed by the Mafia Night 4. (Vigilante)
1. Crimson97 - Lynched Day 4. (Godfather)
9. Dodowarrior44 - Killed by the Mafia Night 5. (Escort)
10. MafiaMenace - Lynched Day 6. (Citizen)
7. realMandingo - Killed by the Mafia Night 6. (Citizen)
13. TheWabbit - Lynched Day 7. (Citizen)

Timeline of Events:
Day 1 begins
Day One Ends/Night One Begins
Night One Ends/Day Two Begins
Day Two Ends/Night Two Begins
Night Two Ends/Day Three Begins
Day Three Ends/Night Three Begins
Night Three Ends/Day Four Begins
Day Four Ends/Night Four Begins
Night Four Ends/Day Five Begins
Day Five Ends/Night Five Begins
Night Five Ends/Day Six Begins
Day Six Ends/Night Six Begins
Night Six Ends/Day Seven Begins
End of Game

ISOs
M4xwell [Host]
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HamilTrashSince1757 midde2200 JoltikIsDubby
loltroll69 TrueGuardian32 NopingOut Exacerbated
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | SETUP

Postby Veeena » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:08 pm

Introduction and Mechanics


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia) duking it out. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-forward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team. While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • Day is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role being shown to the public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it. **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

**There are no whispers present in this game.
**There are no last wills or death notes in this game.
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up.


The game will only end once one of the major factions fulfills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me (M4xwell) the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
For sending me Night actions or whatever, include "NFM52" in the subject line, it would also help if you included "Night Action" for your actions

Mafia Killing Revamp is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology

General terms:
Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it. For instance, saying "there are alot of people that are more important than me" may imply that you are softclaiming citizen. Make sure you have a plan in mind before attempting this.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors. If player X posts things that look like their a mafia member, you have a scumread on them!
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. For instance, if you think player Y wouldn't kill Z because Z townreads Y, but then realize that may well be a reason that Y would kill Z: to make people think Y isn't a mafia member, you've stumbled on WIFOM. Tread lightly.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose. Extremely subjective term not to be taken lightly.


Slightly more uncommon terms:
FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post what you think of other players regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.
Townies have no reason to lie and should never do it, in NFM. Spotting a lie can be almost as sure as spotting a mafia itself.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

FM Academy has further guidance to playing scum.

Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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If you ever feel anxious playing FM, like I do every single time I play, look at yourself and realize things aren't so bad. As long as you are having fun it's always worth it. Don't be scared to post.

For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Veeena » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:59 pm

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Screams of sorrow...

Screams of blight...

Aleph Null is back in sight.

Has brought you in a little town...

Which seems serene until the sun goes down.



Day One Begins. You have 120 Hours.
Day One will end Thursday January 18 2018 at 4:00pm EST.


Reminders:
There is a Day One Lynch.
There is no Last Wills, Whispers, or Death Notes.
There is no trial phase. Lynched is Lynched.
If you have a specific question about your role, send me a PM.
If you have a specific question about a mechanic in the game, you may ask in the thread, or send me a PM.
As always, you can normally find a game mod in the discord chat.
Have fun, and good luck!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby EvanManManMan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:07 pm

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby EvanManManMan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:07 pm

/vote gobln
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:30 pm

hey why did no one tell me that it started.

Anyways gl to everyone.

If someone wants any info about me or my behaviors I died as Doctor in NFM 51.
RNG is never good for any strategy based game. Please learn the definition of what that means, especially if you're one of the people constantly defending it.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Gobln » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:47 pm

Hey guys and Evan.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby MichaelgRook » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:15 pm

PROTECT ME FOR FREELO

:thinking:
maybe nfm isn't a good place for rvs (random voting stage)

henlo players of lesser experience and evan
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby MichaelgRook » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:18 pm

that being said I'm a sucker for following crowds

/vote gobln
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:24 pm

It is January 14th 2018 for me aka 01.14.18

18 - 14 - 1 = 4

4 is Mafia

/vote non27
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Dodowarrior44 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:27 pm

Hello! This is my first FM game. I think I'll die N1 though...
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Gobln » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:30 pm

Dodowarrior44 wrote:Hello! This is my first FM game. I think I'll die N1 though...

I will protect you.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:34 pm

Gobln wrote:
Dodowarrior44 wrote:Hello! This is my first FM game. I think I'll die N1 though...

I will protect you.


Are you SC TP?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Gobln » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:40 pm

BasicFourLife wrote:
Gobln wrote:
Dodowarrior44 wrote:Hello! This is my first FM game. I think I'll die N1 though...

I will protect you.


Are you SC TP?

Hardclaiming Bodyguard.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:43 pm

Gobln wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:
Gobln wrote:
Dodowarrior44 wrote:Hello! This is my first FM game. I think I'll die N1 though...

I will protect you.


Are you SC TP?

Hardclaiming Bodyguard.


Is this a serious or a meme claim.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Dodowarrior44 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:43 pm

Gobln, do you think it would be wise to say my role? (Am town)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Gobln » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:44 pm

I'm going to limit myself to 30 posts a day before EoD. I suggest every other """""experienced""""" player does the same to make things easier.

BasicFourLife wrote:
Gobln wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:
Gobln wrote:
Dodowarrior44 wrote:Hello! This is my first FM game. I think I'll die N1 though...

I will protect you.


Are you SC TP?

Hardclaiming Bodyguard.


Is this a serious or a meme claim.

LOL
It's serious. Going to vest up tonight.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Gobln » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:45 pm

Dodowarrior44 wrote:Gobln, do you think it would be wise to say my role? (Am town)

Do what you want. You're on your own bud, don't follow me or any of the other players in this game. Forge your own path.

As the game goes on, you'll find you're better than most of these ""experienced"" players. So trust yourself.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:47 pm

1) Don't claim day 1, unless people are demanding your role because of your suspicious actions.
2) TP be on me.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:48 pm

Literally the game has just started and you HC TP.

Like, what the fuuck.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Gobln » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:50 pm

I've always been one to break barriers. I have to show that to the new players too.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Dodowarrior44 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:50 pm

True, true, true.

Question:

Is citizen a scummy claim (Like Sheriff or Spy)?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:53 pm

There are 5 Citizens + 1 GF among the Citizen claims always.

You pretty much have to figure out from the 6 ~ 7 Citizen claims which one is the GF.

Citizens can not prove themselves in any way.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM52 | Day One

Postby Dodowarrior44 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:21 pm

Is the first day normally uneventful, or is it normally full of surprise?

Also:
By first day lynch, you mean whoever has the most votes by the end of the day or just FTPT majority rules (There can be no lynch)?
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