NFM48 | Town wins! (Mod review on page 51)

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NFM48 | Town wins! (Mod review on page 51)

Postby ShortcutButton » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:00 pm

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Setup:
Rolelist
Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Godfather
Mafia Tactical/Support
Random Mafia


Role Categories
Town Investigative: (Investigator/Sheriff/Lookout)
Town Protective: (Doctor/Bodyguard/Marshal)
Town Killing: (Vigilante/Veteran)
Town Support: (Medium/Escort)
Town Citizen: (Citizen)

Mafia Head: (Godfather)
Mafia Tactical: (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support: (Consigliere/Consort/Agent)
Mafia Deception: (Framer/Janitor/Disguiser/Prankster)

There will never be more than one Mafioso.
There are two random towns, and only one can be citizen.
The random town can also not be a Town Killing role (Vigilante/Veteran).

Invest Results
Citizen/Godfather
Sheriff/Marshal/Mafioso/Disguiser
Escort/Doctor/Consort/Prankster
Lookout/Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer/Agent
Investigator/Veteran/Medium/Consigliere/Janitor
Framer
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Re: NFM48 | Setup

Postby ShortcutButton » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:04 pm

Living Playerlist:
  1. Cirque
  2. Selynee
  3. ejjinami

Graveyard:
Our previous NFM host, Lexiam. Also Hugh Hefner. And the Oakland Raiders, lol. May they all rest in peace.
  1. dmsc1999 - Escort - Died to Mafia Night 1
  2. GoogleFeud - Sheriff - Lynched Day 2
  3. kosmo16 - Citizen - Died to Mafia Night 2
  4. JuvenileFourtyTwo - Investigator - Lynched Day 3
  5. polypies73 - Citizen - Died to Mafia Night 3
  6. xUltiix - Godfather - Lynched Day 4
  7. TrueGuardian32 - Citizen - Killed Night 4
  8. Multiuniverse - Citizen - Killed Night 5
  9. VoltageAnH - Framer - Lynched Day 6
  10. UzayAltay - Consigliere - Lynched Day 8

Timeline of Events:
Day 1 begins
Day 1 ends; Day 2 begins
Day 2 ends; Day 3 begins
Day 3 ends; Day 4 begins
Day 4 ends; Day 5 begins
Day 5 ends; Day 6 begins
Day 6 ends; Day 7 begins
Day 7 ends; Day 8 begins
Game ends
Spreadsheet and mod review

ISO's (Each players posts in isolation):
ShortcutButton (your host)
Melanora (the prickly lady from HR)

JuvenileFourtyTwo
Cirque
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hereisme ---> UzayAltay
dmsc1999
TrueGuardian32
Selynee
GoogleFeud
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ejjinami
xUltiix
kosmo16
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Re: NFM48 | Setup

Postby ShortcutButton » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:28 pm

Introduction and mechanics.


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia) duking it out. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-forward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team. While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • Day is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role being shown to the public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it. **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

**There are no whispers present in this game.
**There are no last wills or death notes in this game.
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up.


The game will only end once one of the major factions fulfills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me (ShortcutButton) the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
For sending me Night actions or whatever, include "NFM48" in the subject line, it would also help if you included "Night Action" for your actions

Mafia Killing Revamp is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology.

General terms:
Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it. For instance, saying "there are alot of people that are more important than me" may imply that you are softclaiming citizen. Make sure you have a plan in mind before attempting this.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors. If player X posts things that look like their a mafia member, you have a scumread on them!
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny. For instance, if you think player Y wouldn't kill Z because Z townreads Y, but then realize that may well be a reason that Y would kill Z: to make people think Y isn't a mafia member, you've stumbled on WIFOM. Tread lightly.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose. Extremely subjective term not to be taken lightly.


Slightly more uncommon terms:
FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post what you think of other players regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.
Townies have no reason to lie and should never do it, in NFM. Spotting a lie can be almost as sure as spotting a mafia itself.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

FM Academy has further guidance to playing scum.

Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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If you ever feel anxious playing FM, like I do every single time I play, look at yourself and realize things aren't so bad. As long as you are having fun it's always worth it. Don't be scared to post.

For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: NFM48 | Setup

Postby ShortcutButton » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:31 pm

Rolecards are going out my dudes
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Re: NFM48 | Setup

Postby ShortcutButton » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:27 pm

Tiredsucculent, NozBugs, and Nordenvic haven't responded and will be replaced.
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Re: NFM48 | Setup

Postby ShortcutButton » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:35 am

JuvenileFourtyTwo replaces Tiredsucculent.
xUltiix replaces Nordenvic.

NozBugs and Ake2pac are still being replaced. Looks like were gonna do this again. :roll: :roll:
We're almost there.
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Re: NFM48 | Setup

Postby ShortcutButton » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:36 am

Polypies73 replaces NozBugs.
Selynee replaces Ake2pac.

The game is beginning.
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Re: NFM48 | Setup

Postby ShortcutButton » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:39 am

“Hey! Hey you! Red shirt!”
“Hmmm?”
“You’re the new guy right?”
“That’s me.”
“Welcome to our humble abode.”
“...Hi.”
“How’s it going.”
“Going.”
“Alright.”
“Yeah.”
“...”
“...”
“Welp. I’ll be… over here. If you need anything… >_>”


Day 1 begins! It will end in 120 hours; or, October 7th, 10:30 AM EST.
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby GoogleFeud » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:57 am

hello fellow townies
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby Multiuniverse » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:05 am

And the scums.

Thanks parker for the gif and SuperDuper for suggesting rotational sig
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby xUltiix » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:07 am

D1 starting right as I have school so won't be on for the next 6ish hours
Will post my intropost and d1 strategy then
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby Selynee » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:43 am

Hello fellow Homo Sapiens.
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby VoltageAnH » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:09 am

Hello fellow Experts. Noob here so take er easy on me. :P
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby GoogleFeud » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:17 am

VoltageAnH wrote:Hello fellow Experts. Noob here so take er easy on me. :P



Don't worry you are not the only one here :D
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby VoltageAnH » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:21 am

GoogleFeud wrote:
VoltageAnH wrote:Hello fellow Experts. Noob here so take er easy on me. :P



Don't worry you are not the only one here :D

I mean, I'm pretty good at ToS, so that means im good here too, right?

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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby GoogleFeud » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:09 am

VoltageAnH wrote:
GoogleFeud wrote:
VoltageAnH wrote:Hello fellow Experts. Noob here so take er easy on me. :P



Don't worry you are not the only one here :D

I mean, I'm pretty good at ToS, so that means im good here too, right?

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)



Well, I've spectated a few games, and It's not very different from ToS, but at the same time here you have to scumread, scumreading doesn't happen often in ToS, you also have to keep track of them, what happened during the night, possible town roles, possible scum roles etc. In my opinion, it's way harder than ToS. (also more balanced and new roles)
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby GoogleFeud » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:25 am

dmsc1999 wrote:Well this is my last nfm game. I hope it's a good one. Hereisme is totally scum btw
/Vote hereisme



he's always scum. But I am not going to vote against him.

/vote GoogleFeud

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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby GoogleFeud » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:26 am

phase** my bad
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby Selynee » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:29 am

Meh, who am I to disagree?

/vote GoogleFeud
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby Bluedetroyer » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:35 am

VoltageAnH wrote:
GoogleFeud wrote:
VoltageAnH wrote:Hello fellow Experts. Noob here so take er easy on me. :P



Don't worry you are not the only one here :D

I mean, I'm pretty good at ToS, so that means im good here too, right?

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Not really, FM is more oriented around scumreading while ToS is night-action focused
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby GoogleFeud » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:01 pm

Well I am going to sleep. I am... gonna... /unvote GoogleFeud... yeeah.
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby VoltageAnH » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:20 pm

dmsc1999 wrote:Well this is my last nfm game. I hope it's a good one. Hereisme is totally scum btw
/Vote hereisme

Has he been scum every game of FM or something? Jeez that's wicked. Feelsbad when that happens on any game.
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby kosmo16 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:07 pm

I have a feeling that random voting D1 is not helping Town. You have 77% chance to lynch a Townie. Because dmsc1999 started to vote randomly, I think he is the most suspicous right now :D

GoogleFeud wrote:
VoltageAnH wrote:
GoogleFeud wrote:
VoltageAnH wrote:Hello fellow Experts. Noob here so take er easy on me. :P



Don't worry you are not the only one here :D

I mean, I'm pretty good at ToS, so that means im good here too, right?

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)



Well, I've spectated a few games, and It's not very different from ToS, but at the same time here you have to scumread, scumreading doesn't happen often in ToS, you also have to keep track of them, what happened during the night, possible town roles, possible scum roles etc. In my opinion, it's way harder than ToS. (also more balanced and new roles)


Scumreading is very common in ToS games. Maybe you just haven't reached this level yet.
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby ShortcutButton » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:29 pm

Votecount

hereisme - 1 - dmsc1999
GoogleFeud - 1 - selynee

In Town of Salem, when one person random votes that person is likely to be bandwagoned and put on trial. However, due to the increased thinking time of forum mafia, a random vote will never lead to a lynch. Thus, random votes are great discussion starters. This is commonly referred to as the Random Voting Stage, or RVS for short.
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Re: NFM48 | Day 1 (The Arrival)

Postby ejjinami » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:40 pm

WOW!!! FINAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY!!!
n0 was reaaaaally long xD and btw, hi there all of you townies.

Well, with this amount of votes i don't think anyone will be lynched d1... Which is kinda good, random lynching only helps maf.


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