Episode XII | Game Over [Town Wins]

[murat1996]

Yeah I see that post but it feels genuine instead of the thing Michael?(or was it Olly?) did.


I mean Tilted isn't mafia, he's either neutral or town and I'm leaning neutral.

I do agree with this on the case that Tilted as mafia is unlikely with Hip's flip.

But I want to know why u think he leans to neutral over town.

[TheWolfBuddy]

only scum knows the rolelist1!1!

/boate chooby!!

[TheWolfBuddy]

oh wait I was supposed to stop shitting

[Swordsworth]

oh wait I was supposed to stop shitting

Yes. You were.

Slept peacefully. Hip's play was disgusting lmao

Evil kill is pretty trash; he clearly wasn't a power role.

Reading Torque and TPA hardcore town rn

[Swordsworth]

I'm going to ignore Chubby until he stops talking about me kek

I don't think self-meta is a sign of being scum; it's a sign of being bad. But you could be bad as scum, so that's a thing.

BS tinfoil: Sevo arso

[Swordsworth]

Iㅐㅕㅣㅇ ㄴㄷㄷ ㄴㄷ패

[Swordsworth]

I could see Sevo as mafia or Arso actually. "I'm perfectly willing to vote Hip but I'll do it later" strikes me rather strongly.

Let's forget the keyboard malfunction.

/vote Sevohaseth

[MichaelgRook]

[Metrino, Torque]
[TrueGent, Swords, Chubby]
[Everyone else]
[Tilted, TPA, Wolf]
[MichaelgRook]

I was really struggling to get many reads this game. I don't know why but it's really annoying me.

Spoiler: Scumreading Michael based on meta, reads and gut. Last game I played with him his tone was really easy to pick out as Town and I'm not really feeling it this game. I didn't really like his reads because they were pretty much all town reads, with a couple (but not even all) of null reads which to me looked like he was just trying to make himself look more productive. I didn't like their town reads because it seemed to me that he was trying to get on everybody's 'good side' by town reading them and only scum reading one person who was widely scumread. Also their post where they tried to start a mini push on Met for 'spreading out their posts' pinged me.

Town reading Met due to his posts actually being logical and I like their pushes on LinearPoint and Torque. Plus their mini non-mafia slip where they said that the mafia and Transporter both targeted Swords seemed genuine like he had actually missed the Wolfs post.

TR'ing Gent mainly based off night actions, but also because I felt that he was giving off non-mafia vibes and since he had he doused+witched actions on him I doubt that he is scum.

Chubby has been a bit iffy at points, but them being stubborn and usually innaccurate in their arguments is just Chubby being Chubby. They look to be actually putting effort into this game and their pushes are semi-decent, plus I liked how they didn't make a huge push on Swords after their argument. I didn't really like how they echoed Torque's protective point on Lucky and overall their day start posts, but after some of that and ignoring the arguments, Chubby looks quite townish.

I liked Torque's day start post with the self-protective tone on Lucky, something I feel mafia would be too afraid to be the first to mention, even if that wasn't the reason why they killed her.

Wolf is being just a little too jester-y for me right now. I get that people say he is always really bad but I have seen him do some actual stuff as town before, and this game it seems like his is just deliberately avoiding doing anything useful. I also feel like one of the people who have said 'wolf is just a shitter xd' is one of Wolf's scumbuddies trying to distance from him without doing much. Still the slightest of scum reads though.

I wanted to comment on Murat because he is a direct null read for me, as in he has had AI posts but to me they all cancel each other out in some way. There are a lot of posts which ping me from murat such as this due to him looking like he is trying a bit too hard to look like town but then there are posts such as this which actually seem genuine (in the case mentioned before I feel scum!murat would have just fluffed on some useless topic instead of actually saying that he had no idea on what to post).

TPA and Swords and both gutreads.
/vote MichaelgRook

Yeah, macca did use meta against me. This proves that I'm not going crazy.

[TheCow]

/vote swords

i saw him visit htg and now shes dead ez scumget

[TheCow]

tfios looks scum

[TheCow]

EOD makes me feel like Olly could be mafia, im gonna dig a bit more into that

what were his vote movements?

[TheCow]

/vote tfios

[TheWolfBuddy]

is cow witch

[TheCow]

is cow witch

yes

[TheCow]

@Obi I don't have night results

PM the mod next time

I dont think yesterdays wagons 100% clear tilted of being mafia unfortunately, they werent really split enough
Still wouldnt lynch them though

tc wagon wasnt a real counter, there isnt a counter when there/s an outed scum

SP
If self meta is okay, usually this is the day were I get scum read for a small thing I did the day before, and either end up getting lynched, live to be lynched tomorrow, or killed tonight. Mafia will most likely be on the wagon if I get lynched today.

I understand there was better reasons to vote hip. I just wanted to avoid looking like a tunneler by using the weaker reasons. I don't know why that made sense at the time.

/Vote MichaelgRook
Gotta start the day right

I dont think yesterdays wagons 100% clear tilted of being mafia unfortunately, they werent really split enough
Still wouldnt lynch them though

I'm saying that a mafia!Linear wouldn't hop onto the counterwagon if they were scum together, and they didn't give a good reason to vote IIRC. Just sorta sheeped on easily.

Also mafia!olly didn't give much good reasoning either for Tilted. Similar case to Linear.

I see what you're saying, but I don't see the why behind it. Mafia linear might jump onto the counterwagon in s/s just to make it look like w/v.
Elaborate on your last comment there regarding olly.

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I dont see the non-mafia!TC based on a Linear flip. I'm seeing the interactions between the two and the dynamic as null.

Dependings on the vote movements, which i would have to look at later.

Unless the arsonist is a madman, it's likely they'll ignite tonight.

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liking torqu more

Yeah I see that post but it feels genuine instead of the thing Michael?(or was it Olly?) did.


I mean Tilted isn't mafia, he's either neutral or town and I'm leaning neutral.

What post and what thing ._.
I'm so lost

I'm too lazy to quote it.

Feels genuine and not scum buddyish like Olly did with what Gent said(i just checked back and it was Olly)

nice

I don't see Swords pushing on Linear/calling them out as scum into D1 and early D2, but the thing that sounded like coaching and the hedging is very conflicting aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

?? What?

hes borrowing my words


mgr push looks good

[TrueGent]

I dont think yesterdays wagons 100% clear tilted of being mafia unfortunately, they werent really split enough
Still wouldnt lynch them though

tc wagon wasnt a real counter, there isnt a counter when there/s an outed scum

Im talking about throughout the day, before Hip claimed double

[TheCow]

I dont think yesterdays wagons 100% clear tilted of being mafia unfortunately, they werent really split enough
Still wouldnt lynch them though

tc wagon wasnt a real counter, there isnt a counter when there/s an outed scum

Im talking about throughout the day, before Hip claimed double

what were hips vote movements? too lazy to check

[TrueGent]

tfios > Chubby > Tilted

[TrueGent]

/vote olly
forgot to do this

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

tfios > Chubby > Tilted

I think I was after Tilted IIRC

Cow I'll respond and elaborate more when home from orthodontist appointment.

[TrueGent]

I literally read their ISO

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

I literally read their ISO

I swear I was after a tilted vote

W/e I'll take ISO over evidence

[tfiosforevah]

tfios looks scum

Can you explain why you think so?

[Stri]

Spoiler:

Witched.

We're probably looking at {Stri, Michael, Wolf, Murat, Gent, Tfios, Tilted, Olly, Sevo} to search for mafias

Michael's reasoning for voting Hip yesterday was just really dodgy

I’m not sure what my name is doing in here. The moment I voted the wagons were reasonably equally divided. I think I was one of the votes that actually got the wagon rolling in Linear’s direction. Also have been stating we should lynch the double claim, cause there were no advantages to keep him alive. Thirdly, I defended TC, and I do not think this was a scum vs scum situation.

I’ve read murat’s ISO during the night and checked some of his previous games and I understand why people see him as town now.

Gent I’m not looking at, he wouldn’t hammer his scumbuddy, that’d be much too transparent and I don’t believe he is using reverse psychology.

Haven’t looked into the others yet, will do after this post. Some more explanation to how you got to this bunch would be helpful though….

SP
If self meta is okay, usually this is the day were I get scum read for a small thing I did the day before, and either end up getting lynched, live to be lynched tomorrow, or killed tonight. Mafia will most likely be on the wagon if I get lynched today.

I understand there was better reasons to vote hip. I just wanted to avoid looking like a tunneler by using the weaker reasons. I don't know why that made sense at the time.

/Vote MichaelgRook
Gotta start the day right

Yeah, the first part of this post is either bullshit or just really crappy. Not much town motivation in this. The second part… wtf? And the self vote is just stupid.

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We have both transported claims then? Sev and Metrino? So that means the kill was once again mafia picked and that would also likely show that Gent wasn't witched into doing the kill either which would at least clear them of that more or less. It's not a guarantee but seems most likely.

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The Gent being witched into the kill theory was really unlikely and meh anyways. If you mean it clears him of being mafia, disagree. He could still be gf claiming witched for a scumbuddy.

Michael is town

good contribution and reasoning.

y though

Do you not want to be called that?

Based on what you've done so far I think you're town

That first sentence feels very out of place…. And the second one is just a bad explanation.

What do you guys think about Stri being potential arson/neutral? I don't remember them much and as Elusive said the arson/neutrals wouldn't want much attention

@Chubby I could be wrong about Michael, but I viewed their self-meta thing as an inexperienced townie worried about how others view them

I was more active than you day 1 and 2. In fact, you were gone for quite a bit and people were asking for more from you. If this is a push at me, try better, cause with this reasoning it’d be more logical if you vote yourself.

/vote olly

[TheWolfBuddy]

Linear, are you being serious right now?

This doesn't seem like something a scumbuddy would say

on the other hand, this sets them up for a good reply that isn't retracting bs and would actually be helpful to said scumbuddy, so I could totally see scum!olly doing it.

"I'm a double"

"that was a joke haha no lynch"

"I'm a double"

"are you serious"

"no that was sarcasm"