FM11D(SP)|Showstopper|Endgame - Curtain Call

[Veeena]

I ask this because it seems you're the one not reading what I'm saying and understanding it. I give you a 4/10 can do better.

[LordofFail]

Can people unvote until everybody has claimed and we come to a consensus, we have over 4 days left and if we continue as we have today we will not accomplish anything.
I'll be back later.

Sure.

/unvote

Intent to revote M4x later.

You intent for town to lose? Good to know.

You all really don't know my play style, don't you.

This has nothing to do with your playstyle or other meta based arguments. It has to do with the fact that your claim was softed heavily earlier and anyone with a brain saw your soft, so mafia would surely have killed you.

Also you didnt state your targets and night results in your claim post unlike chit who did, which makes me think that you are more likely to be lying and had to come up with your night targets and results AND then double check that they caused no contradictions. Really you should have done that in your mafia chat last night given that I pushed for a massclaim yesterday.

[Schultz128]

Chit, would you rather there be a WIFOM situation regarding the Escorts, Witch, and the Arsonist tonight or would you rather the Arsonist just be dealt with?

[ICECLIMBERS]

Why Caporegime over Consort, chit.

The thing about Ultii is that claiming roleblocked while doused just screams like a desperate arsonist to me. He had already been doused by a firebrand and people had discussed why he, alongside PKR, could be arsonist.

I'm actually surprised that JackoDerp wasn't roleblocked. Perhaps the capo retrained themselves?

LoF, just claim your real role already.

[Veeena]

...wait. This is a simple fix.

Sherrif can check me tonight. Caporegine will pop up as mafia, not NS.

I am the Marshall and you'll see I am.

[chitownmvp01]

Why Caporegime over Consort, chit.

Consort more likely to claim Escort or Citizen.

...wait. This is a simple fix.

Sherrif can check me tonight. Caporegine will pop up as mafia, not NS.

I am the Marshall and you'll see I am.

Mafia can attack and roleblock Jacko.

[Veeena]

Calling it now.

I will be roleblocked, and JackoDerp will be killed because I wouldn't be able to do anything, as he goes and checks me.

[chitownmvp01]

Calling it now.

I will be roleblocked, and JackoDerp will be killed because I wouldn't be able to do anything, as he goes and checks me.

GJ invalidating your simple fix.

[Schultz128]

Chit, it's going to be easier to hunt the Mafia as a whole rather than the Mafia and the Arsonist at the same time.

[Veeena]

Calling it now.

I will be roleblocked, and JackoDerp will be killed because I wouldn't be able to do anything, as he goes and checks me.

GJ invalidating your simple fix.

It's not invalidation, it's giving you the fucking reason why I am town.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Just wait for everybody else to claim and move as a group. 2/3 of us are still town. We don't have to rush and can easily wait a couple of days to get everything sorted out.

[chitownmvp01]

Chit, it's going to be easier to hunt the Mafia as a whole rather than the Mafia and the Arsonist at the same time.

You're not going to change my opinion no matter how much you try. Roleblock xUltiix to confirm that they're Arso. The case against M4x is strong. Do you really think every living scum doesn't have a brain?

Calling it now.

I will be roleblocked, and JackoDerp will be killed because I wouldn't be able to do anything, as he goes and checks me.

GJ invalidating your simple fix.

It's not invalidation, it's giving you the fucking reason why I am town.

It actually does the opposite.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Well chit, the reasoning isn't over whether or not lynching Ultii or M4x is stronger.
The reasoning is that Ultii is far more likely to be scum, and at this point we just need to lynch scum.

... and given the mafia's night actions so far I wouldn't expect much from them.

[chitownmvp01]

Well chit, the reasoning isn't over whether or not lynching Ultii or M4x is stronger.
The reasoning is that Ultii is far more likely to be scum, and at this point we just need to lynch scum.

... and given the mafia's night actions so far I wouldn't expect much from them.

While I think xUltiix is Arso, I'm actually a bit more confident about the M4x lynch. M4x being town would be jaw dropping since I don't expect scum to be that stupid.

[LordofFail]

can someone make a list of claims?

i want to know from who we are still waiting for claims

[Schultz128]

You're not going to change my opinion no matter how much you try. Roleblock xUltiix to confirm that they're Arso. The case against M4x is strong. Do you really think every living scum doesn't have a brain?

Chit, you realize that (In some crazy alternate reality that Ultiix ISN'T Arso), the Arsonist can just NOT douse now and frame Ultiix, right?

Whether we lynch M4x today or tomorrow, or Ultiix today or tomorrow needs to be decided. If Ultiix is Arso and we lynch him tonight, then we eliminate an entire faction that we don't have to worry about. Lynch M4x and he flips Capo? Well, yes, Mafia have less power, but they will still be able to kill.

[ICECLIMBERS]

To the contrary- the believed that Dama was the transporter.
... Actually killing a confirmed non mafia is 90% of the time better than killing an unconfirmed who softed PR.

The case against Ultii is clearly stronger given that he's only like, one step away from being confscum. Like I said, it's objective reasoning; yours is subjective, and I'd rather take the better odds.
Really the case is that LoF is apparently counterclaiming or something but he's being a meanie and being too vague. >:(

[chitownmvp01]

You're not going to change my opinion no matter how much you try. Roleblock xUltiix to confirm that they're Arso. The case against M4x is strong. Do you really think every living scum doesn't have a brain?

Chit, you realize that (In some crazy alternate reality that Ultiix ISN'T Arso), the Arsonist can just NOT douse now and frame Ultiix, right?

Whether we lynch M4x today or tomorrow, or Ultiix today or tomorrow needs to be decided. If Ultiix is Arso and we lynch him tonight, then we eliminate an entire faction that we don't have to worry about. Lynch M4x and he flips Capo? Well, yes, Mafia have less power, but they will still be able to kill.

Well if M4x flips Mafia and there are no douses tonight, we safely lynch xUltiix tomorrow. xUltiix claiming roleblocked and doused again would be extremely suspicious.

[Schultz128]

I don't care which one we lynch today, but I prefer Ultiix over M4x.

[ICECLIMBERS]

he's p much lock scum K E K

[chitownmvp01]

I don't care which one we lynch today, but I prefer Ultiix over M4x.

Well I prefer M4x over xUltiix. Say all you want. You will not convince me otherwise.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Why is M4x objectively scum?
Why is Ultii objectively scum?

Anything objective- like a sheriff result that is unlikely to have been tampered with- is better than anything subjective, such as a read, in our situation.

[chitownmvp01]

Why is M4x objectively scum?
Why is Ultii objectively scum?

Anything objective- like a sheriff result that is unlikely to have been tampered with- is better than anything subjective, such as a read, in our situation.

I would rather have xUltiix confirmed by another roleblock.

[ICECLIMBERS]

:lbj

[Schultz128]

Why is M4x objectively scum?
Why is Ultii objectively scum?

Anything objective- like a sheriff result that is unlikely to have been tampered with- is better than anything subjective, such as a read, in our situation.

I would rather have xUltiix confirmed by another roleblock.

Ultiix can easily be framed by the Arsonist purposely not dousing if Ultiix is jaw droppingly not the Arsonist.